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I think there is something to be said for the general pendulum swinging or perhaps the widening of the overton window in both directions.
biggest issue i see is the right being too meek and timid, at least in the professional sphere
I think a lot of our success/failure is related to trade and foreign policy
If people on the right just stood up for each other they'd be miles better off, so many more would speak how they truly felt if the risk of being ostracized wasn't so high, even with so many people agreeing
It is certainly true the left will hardly ever eat their own and the right disavows at the drop of a hat.
the amount of people that have told me "i really support you, but i can't let be as vocal. keep it up" is really disheartening
same goes for my peers who have been just as active in the past
you know who's not in the news? Julian.
he doubled down and the left moved on
it's literally that simple
I wonder how he's doing now
journo: "mr president, AOC called you racist..."
dt: "who?"
journo: "aoc"
dt: "who cares?"
Who is Julian?
shrugging off BS like that is the easiest way to get these radicals to blow a gasket then move on
Also helps with Julian he said nothing even remotely controversial to the average person, King, while I of course still like him did ask "what's wrong with white supremacy" while Julian literallyjust said I like being white
Vin abele
@Jacob exactly, Julian who, already
Julian Von Abele
oh the physics guy
eh I just don't really pay attention to news
that's part of it
Been thinking about this a lot recently
Disheartened this morning by the GOP's treatment of Steve King. Our ideas are certainly are a long ways away from being welcomed by the GOP with open arms. They're becoming way to similar to the Democrat party on social issues. (Not blackpilling here, we're still making great progress)
this Brexit stuff is getting good. Will be very glad once May doesn't get her fake Brexit. Forcing them to bureaucratically nullify the referendum can only stir up more resentment on both sides. It comes at a time when nationalism is being debated globally unlike in 2005 when the Lisbon treaty got forced through.
Good article for background: http://archive.fo/MxfT6
an excerpt:
"Undeterred by this democratic rejection of their federalist aims, the EU simply rebranded the Constitution as the Lisbon Treaty. By quietly subsuming the European Constitution into โjust another treatyโ, the EU enabled national governments to override referendums where they had already occurred. They did this by falsely claiming to have conceded to the democratic majority, resulting in the EU supposedly changing the Treaty. In reality, the Constitution and the Lisbon Treaty are 90% the same, and only underwent a cleverly edit crafted to confuse the public!"
The public in Europe seems very educated about the Lisbon trickery. Trying this Brexit betrayal while yellow vests are still on the streets in France seems like a reckless and desperate move.
Hey all, I've only been in this group for a couple of weeks, truly a newbie but hey, that's OK. Recently I had the pleasure of meeting some members of our group in my area and it was great. I encourage all newbies to clear your schedules for the meetups; make them a priority. I know you know this already, but experiencing it is great: this movement is a group effort and every bit of participation, even something as simple as having a beer with like minded folks, keeps the ideas alive. Ideas=plans=actions.
Here's a nice white pill from Italia: Monthly number of migrants landed by boat in Italy updated to December (2016 -87,12%, 2017 -80.50% YoY)
GET TO THE CONFERENCE
@DaddyPaddy - FL Do not ask where the conference is! If you had a problem with registration, DM @Matthias
Will do, thank you
Thatโs what I figured, thank you. Might have to swing for next year.
This King thing makes me increasingly doubt the viability of co-opting GOP. The rich donors (donors... donors...) will stamp out MAGA Trumpism as soon as Trump is gone. They already are doing well at that while he's president. They'll virtue signal cuck even more to vainly flail to win things past the Texan math point (2024). Boomers love nothing more than dying and losing with their Values(tm). And then when they croak they'll give us the final "F-you" of lowering the national white % a bunch of points at once.
But the Texan mexican math point means a third party wouldn't do any better. Sneaky pro-white or open pro-white can't be president past a point.
A parliamentary style party and election system could buy more time. But making those kinds of changes opens up the US to worse and quicker depreadations to white citizens' rights.
A pro-white third party could take state legislature power in a contiguous bloc of STATES with the goal of negotiating PEACEFUL separation from the worst (most liberal / most non white) states.
But then they'll just import enough Aztecs and Afro-Muslims to sabotage it.
I guess keep trying to influence the GOP, even if ineffective, because there's nothing else to do. (mass white awakening would have to precede the state-level third party option)
@fgtveassassin from everything that I have seen, absolutely, gen Z is far more consevative than previous generations. I try not to buy into false defeatism about it personally.
@The Eternal Anglo the Gen Z white boys are more based. The girls are more lefty. There are more Browns and more Gays in the entire bunch, so as a whole GenZ swings left but the white boys are harder right.
@Argument of Perigee That article you posted is surprisingly well written. Obviously, not the parts directly referring to IE, but overall it's pretty good.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN That's what I have seen everywhere as well. It's a good thing the left is completely alienating Whites, gives us a great advantage over the future political alignment over Whites
Interesting. Thank you.
What shall we rename the holiday in January known as MLK Jr Day?
Plagarizing womanizer feelgood figurehead day.
Maybe that's a bit too wordy, lol.
European Natalism day. Whites get a day off to conceive lol
I meant when we win institutions back. What would you like to see it named to
Lol so many October babies
True that may strain hospitals
Lots of kids at my HS were born in November and I noticed itโs bc its 9 mos from Valentineโs Day
Try it once to see lol
Jared Taylor Day
So since shaving is now homosexual and merchantile, and people are trying to flee 2017 aesthetics, can we do the pro-white, long beard thing?
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Shaving is now homosexual?!
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Oh yeah, the gay gillette commercial
A reverse potato diaspora would be epic
Not Irish myself but it has mythic rhyme to it
why is no one doing anything about big tech <:sad:366743316475281408>
they're literally shaping the future in their own eyes.
it's disgusting
<:pepe:359012488920039424> https://www.rt.com/news/448845-china-grows-cotton-seed-moon/
While I want to agree with you, @Wood-Ape - OK/MN, I don't think even most of this organization would feel comfortable defending the term 'supremacy' under our real names. Yes, I'm sure it was taken out of context and whatever else, and he should do everything he can to defend himself now. But the reality is there is a thirst for what we talk about: identity, demographics, immigration without the baggage of the alt right and the movement and personalities of white nationalism. There is a reason why Tucker is one of the most watched people in America, Coulter is probably the most influential conservative author today, and why Trump was elected.
Ricky Vaughn had the ears of members of the Trump family after all. Then he got doxed by the seedier elements of the alt-right.
It *was* taken out if context. And of course no one wants to be 'supreme' here, we want 'separate,' the opposite.
Maybe remember King got into hot water by Retweeting Director Casey's employer (Lana).
Yeah and he probably could have avoided all of that and then we'd still have a WN on his committee assignments.
Congressman King has better optics than IE. Congressman King never marched in Virginia.
You are asking for more forgiveness for gaffes than you are willing to give
I'm almost done with Adios America now. It's basically a WN screed against immigration. Strangely, no mention or attempt to mess around with 'supremacy.'
Tbh, I would much rather have somebody in congress who agrees with us quietly and secretly but is openly pro free speech and against de-platforming.
Adios America has some really good talking points
Even for people like us
I think a lot of us overestimate how informed we are
I want him to keep his assignments and stay in, no doubt.
King is no Nehlen. He never Oven posted or Doxxed anyone
Certainly not
He didn't but he was in a sensative position and he got careless.
My take on this is that Steve King was making a valid point, but it just came out badly
Agreed
Still kinda his fault, but I get it. We all misspeak sometimes.
But there is no forgiveness there when it comes to Capitol Hill in the current year, for better or worse
How to move the window or get this "power" everyone talks about without people with power speaking?
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He also said "western civilization" in the same sentence.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Leave speaking about these issues to people who are actually in a good position to do so. Like Ann or Tucker or us. Congress is not a very good soapbox. We need people in congress who can effectively do things like combat deplatforming.
As with most things, I agree with Greg Johnson's take on how to get power. We need people who can afford to be explicit to do it and move the Overton Window, but we also need people who are "secret agents" and get into institutions.
Recent Announcement agrees with me. Stop the hypocritical disavowal storm and call McCarthy
@Virgil congress is a national debate stage, what are you talking about.
CSpan is "soap box: the channel"
Obviously we all stand with him and we don't think he deserves to be punished for what would be a minor mistake in a sane society, but we still acknowledge that it was a peculiar think to say, even if not intentional.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Ideally yes, but for our views no, it isn't at this point.
@Virgil I think there's some truth to that. Once you get into Congress, it might be a good idea to just lay low, vote for good stuff, and don't get kicked out.
It is until it isn't, vague and nebulous. Okay. ๐ ๐
Why should anyone be the second through the gate if the first guy gets no support?
If I woke up one day and I was in a powerful position, I wouldn't go tweeting "hey guys join Identity Evropa this group is based and redpilled", I'd keep my mouth shut and quietly vote for the best policies I can without getting removed from office.
Meanwhile the inbred Somali and fat Palestinian are being VERY SHY.
Got an angry "be happy to share your comment" when I called McCarthy's office aha
Same!
In fact something even more useful for future members of congress, is to pretend to be your average maga, conservative or anti-war pro free speech leftist and contact Identitarian activists in private and set them up with funding and donors.
@Virgil nothing stays private in the beltway.
Guy hung up on me mid-sentence, too, after saying heโd be sure to pass the message on, lol
The guy I talked to took my message
Donorsโ dollars > votersโ opinions = the mantra of the GOP it seems
Good work!
Believe me, Bakersfield is nowhere near me, if thatโs what youโre saying
my mistake.
California is a foreign land to me
Hey, itโs cool! Itโs just that in Cali, going somewhere is always like a 3 or 4 hour drive, lol.
I'm gonna call during my break between classes
I will drive to town to call and send in LoPF2 ticket money
@Chris N. - CA Bakersfield is nowhere near anybody, lol.
haha looks like they shut off the phone line
I'll try again later
To which number? The local or the DC one? The local one didnโt pick up for me either, so I left a message.
I got through just fine
@Chris N. - CA both
one was just a busy signal, one said they were closed
Response from their office. "The congressman does not approve of King's comments and they do not reflect the party of Lincoln"
The guy that told me this sounded like he didn't believe this either...
I called the 202 number fyi.
Is this message on our Twitter?
Damn these cucks are going full Dinesh Dsouza CivNat
If we get it on our Twitter I can boost it to Groyper Twitter for us.
Check out @andersonDrLJAโs Tweet: https://twitter.com/andersonDrLJA/status/1085228470836195329?s=09
tell them about how Lincoln supported remigrating blacks to Africa and was way more hardcore than Steve King @micbwilli
Called in!
Keep it polite, brief, tell them you are a registered voter and that you voted in the midterms too!
@Jacob Yeah that would have been good. I was about to leave into him about Lincoln arresting entire newspapers and suspending law, but I figured I better be nice.
Tell them you're a student at a local university if they ask about an out of state area code number
don't forget to mention that we are the future of the party
I called, only got through to voicemail on the second number
If they are closing the phone lines is it worth also tweeting to Kevin Mccarthy? https://twitter.com/GOPLeader
Might as well if your account is clean!
<:nervous:359009898115104770> ๐ https://youtu.be/H1BBHNNAQoc
Check out @RealJackโs Tweet: https://twitter.com/RealJack/status/1085178108318232576?s=09
@apronandlace it seems like they closed the line for a bit and opened it back up
ok
got through!
>when Patrick Casey @'s his entire organization and tells them to call you
<:nervous:359009898115104770>
are any of the big "alt right" servers still around?
I remember there used to be a bunch of those back in the day
if they can't join an irl group they should at least be calling Congressman
I had a guy try to argue with me that people should wear masks while putting up It's Okay To Be White posters
Imagine some dude walking around in a ski mask at 1 AM through the neighborhood. That sounds like a really quick way to get the cops called on you.
Dude if you don't literally wear an invisibility cloak every time you go outside, ((((((((((they)))))))))) will teleport your entire family to the Moon.
This was disgusting
What gives me hope is that when I was these kids age, even later, I said a lot of things that we'd see as leftist brainwashing
and I still ended up here
Called and left a message!
I hope one of the parents at least has enough brains to realise this indoctrination and complain
@StevePines -WA my guess is it's a majority (if not entirely) black school
Kid was white though
our tax dollars go towards a education system promoting hatred towards whites
@StevePines -WA was he?
Wait maybe not I thought I read that somewhere
Might have misread
this is kind of interesting
Wacky statistics
@Jacob It seems like the Meds win again lol! And the slavs
western Europe... *pepe smoking meme*
Eastern Europe... also pepe smoking meme
because 45% is insanely high
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not wanting to be foreign to your own grandkids should be, like, a *really basic* belief
Russia people smoking meme because they are looking at Western europe
The North African stats are interesting
I was against race mixing before I was against immigration
pretty long before, too
it was really easy for me to accept that a family should have something in common
Iโve always been against it, when I was younger I couldnโt explain it.
ya even when I was a kid I had a natural inclination against it
but that was more of a personal preference thing than actually thinking it's harmful
@godric I think the 202 number answerer thought he was done with us. He was surprised when I called.
When you call it wouldn't be bad to say something like "thank you sir!" In a cheerful tone. A little sugar helps the pill go down that the staffer's boss did a bad and staffers actually do matter. They are like mini representatives and they all talk outside of work.
I would never let my daughter or son race mix
well, ya, but you're an IE member
I was polite to him and made it clear my issue was not with him. I want chipper about it though, that's hard to do on your work break lol
that's a pretty popular opinion here
Is the registration fee mail-to direction on the LOPF 2019 channel pdf invite still accurate?
@godric oh yea. The idea to be chipper wasn't directed at you, to be sure.
In my opinion smiles are confidence and confidence is what is contagious. In the perennial "smile or scowl" debate in activist circles, smile is the clear winner, even for people who want to control foreign policy and go on to do tough stuff.
Republic of North Albania
The Balkan Jihad grinds on...
Who else should we call besides McCarthy
@Jacob ...and they already have a "Northern Albania". It's called Kosovo and Metohija ๐
It's about time Macedon accept Alabaman as the second language
After we get the whole saving the European peoples thing taken care of, can we please get on with curing the common cold? I hate being sick.
@Lawrence of Eurabia you know I think you're right
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Yes, registration is still $125, increases in less than a week
We can get a lot done once we save the European people
1/21 price goes up 20 evropa bux. SIGN UP FOR CONFERENCE NOW
So pumped for this conference.
The first one was when I had only been in for a few months.
Now that I know a ton of people its gonna be twice as cool.
While we are calling reps, should we be calling about supporting border wall funding too? such as Dem reps that might switch over? I have all Dem reps here
Thank.you but I meant the address.
@apronandlace well, even if they won't switch over, it's good to make them pessimistic so they give up
yeah precisely ๐
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I don't see why it would have changed so I'm going to say yes, DM Matt though if you really want to make sure though
Very few Ds will vote for border security. I would focus on Rs unless you have a red district dem like Colin Peterson
Left a message on the second line at least.
Oh boy
only a million weeks after Sam Harris
Wasn't JBP's patreon 100k/week for several years? Why not retire?
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN the address hasn't changed since LOPF 2019 was announced
@Logan cool thanks. I'm poor so I don't mail until I am sure.
@sigruna14 zinc lozenges
Peterson is the 63rd highest patreon by patrons
Called the 202 and got through. Told them that I have been a Republican voter since I was 18 and we need to band together or we will be dissolved shortly. Said people may slip in public speaking but we need to let them handle it themselves and move on.
looked it up. apparently his patreon was above 50k a month
He must continue the fight for individualism.
Mexico had to shut down some oil pipelines to prevent thefts and their soldiers are getting kidnapped by locals stealing the oil.
Trump should step in to stabilize their country. All those poor Mexican wamens and childrens, you know.
We must fight for the individual as a collective
That's nuts. They should have mobilized a massive campaign to put pressure on Patreon.
Hundreds of thousands of people.
I got thru to both numbers.
Told the secretary "Trump gave us the template to victory. Be bold and apologize for nothing"
@Logan Invading Iraq filled neighboring Europe with Iraqis. So put me against war with Mexico for that same reason.
Special IE Dinner during the conference with Hamberders and Covfefe. ๐
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN there is no regional Iran to take Mexico out of the US sphere and there is already a crisis at the border going our way. It is possible that in such a scenario, the US could act as regent in the northern border provinces and over the state-owned mineral companies with no more Mexicans moving North than did in 1917.
The wall and e-verify would need to be in place before any such expedition. It has to happen sooner or later or Mexico will achieve their goal of annexing everything through the Rockies and maybe more
Yes in the magical future where military action didn't mean Mexicans would be pushed north and let in, stabilizing their state may be worth it.
That's putting a big cart before a single horse though.
There are so many more people right up on the border now than in 1917. Perhaps an economic takeover would be the better thing to do.
It seems like the potential for that is already in place. I didn't expect countries like Mexico and China would roll over so easily to some of Trump's demands.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN yes. You are right it is magical. But I think we could be in a much different place in just 8 years.
the last twenty years shows
>US bombs country
>limitless people in that country come to US (and Europe)
>and people from completely unrelated areas crowd in during the opportunity
I would agree that wars bring foreign populations into your borders even before then. I was thinking about disputing it but you see Vietnames and Philippinos even entering the US. In a different era it was Hebrews and Celts entering Italy after being conquered.
What we see now with Afghans and Congolese pretending to be Syrian teenagers in the millions is something else though.
If however fifty thousand Mexicans ingratiate themselves to US economic/military-occupation bureaucrats and get in like the Vietnamese and Philippinos it would be going against the tide of 30 million Mexicans leaving because they don't pass e-verify.
But that's another wishful scenario. Can we get the bulk of them to leave? I think if Trump gets his funding without DACA then illegals will finally be on track to be fully criminalized before 2030.
I guess I don't see how warfare and resulting chaos decreases Mexican presence in the US rather than increase it
The recent wars were deliberately mismanaged but I think most Americans agree with you that wars are out for a while. No one trusts the state department not to throw the game.
Which is why we should disband the Department of State.
The above conversation proves medieval war > modern war
Looks like Britain might get a new PM soon
I like this Stefan.
Got through on the 202 number. Thanked lady for taking my call, identified myself as a member of a young conservationist Republican group that supports Congressman Steve King
Also just sent in LOPF2 money
@Der Seeteufel - SD Congrats to your family!
That's awesome
@apronandlace to be honest I wouldn't do it
Well my apartment got broken into again
Last time they kicked in the AC, this time just tossed a rock through the window
Jokeโs on them Iโm poor af
https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/1085289382440062977 This is who your tax dollars are paying, what a waste of time
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