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IE Valentine's Day action: White families are beautiful, white babies are beautiful, glorifying marriage and family life etc.
Mixing typically happens among the lower levels of society for low IQ reasons, or higher levels for signalling reasons. Neither of these populations are particularly swayed by crime stats lol
eh I wouldn't use crime stats if I had to advocate against mixing
interracial relationships having higher rates of interspousal violence is a good stat, but I wouldn't go further than that
I was mostly referring to black-white mixing. Other pairings have other motives
if I had to tell someone who mixing sucks, I'd mostly talk about how it causes identity problems for the kids
We've gotta start getting sources together for these stats. So many stats you hear about, but how many are true?
What even is Tamil
@sigruna14 Dude, if you hear it from me, you know it's true with like a 99% chance. I'm super obsessive about checking my facts.
I will yell at people for posting Daily Mail links
@Jacob We need something like the BUGS' Buddy, but with stats and sources.
I'm working on it
it's going to take a while
but it's something I've been putting together
I agree, @Jacob. Compassion is always a good look.
I've been sorting through massive amounts of studies and writing up answers to frequent counter arguments. I'm also a college student, though, and that goes first, so this is gonna take a while.
But I already have hundreds of studies at the least
@Nemets I am not a fan of Tamils
I don't really care what ethnicity people are
as long as they're my ethnicity lmao
Feel free to shoot the talking points this way. My curiosity is piqued... ๐
Be white, or gtfo
@Bjorn - MD message me in a few months and remind me
Lol
Will do.
@Freiheit - CA Seriously though. I don't think focusing on specific groups really helps us.
Just one group: "elites".
If only I was as smart as an un-ironic WigNat
I think the anti-Muslim stuff especially is backfiring
You know how many comments I've seen being like "THIS IS GOOD CUZ THEY CATHOLIC"
@Jacob Agreed, but it can be useful to point out the glaring contradictions between Muslim aspirations and those of other members of the stack.
@Nemets ahahahaha
to be clear I have nothing against what you're doing, I just think that when it comes to talking points, it should be against diversity in general
@Bjorn - MD I mean sure it's useful in limited cases
I personally have gotten to the point that I never argue against Muslim immigration and rarely argue against illegal immigration
Hey @Jacob don't focus on Filipino women...
Thats just one group
Gotteem
lol
Iโm cool with Filipinos.
also, talking about why "these people" suck is much worse optics than being against diversity in principle
Very based.
...said no one ever
Duterte though...
Now: "I'm cool with Filipinos"
10 years later: whole city is Filipino...
Lol
The majority of my social circle in high school were Filipino.
I was the white friend.
We should infiltrate the Democratic party, get elected, and import the worst possible immigrants
@Jacob Regarding Poland, I'm actually concerned that the Central and Eastern Europe may not have fully avoided the infection; it's just delayed-onset. They don't fully perceive the danger due to lack of recent, significant experience with diversity. I think it may well come to pass that Western Europe may snatch itself from the jaws of death, only to have to turn around and stave off decline in the east.
@Jacob a little behind the curve
tbh i have no issue with Filipinos either...but I don't want Poland turning into the Philippines either.
I have no problem with Filipinos, either... in the Philippines ๐
So Filipino is a nationality, not a race or ethnicity then
Probably both a nationality and ethnicity.
The only people I have a problem with are my own people who screw up
If people other than my own do messed up stuff in their own countries, I don't care
If they do it in our countries, it's our fault for letting them
@missliterallywho ...though the tradition of nationhood is pretty much and exclusively European phenomenon. With other groups, any such comparison is relatively.
Really the only logical position is anti-immigration, period, 100%.
My cousin served his LDS mission in a remote area in the jungle of the Philippines: brought back this young Philippino girl and married her a few weeks later: ๐ณ they just had a baby ๐ I tried to talk to her at the Christmas party but she was so shy and terrified of me I thought sheโd start crying.
@Bjorn - MD Poland actually used to be one of the most pro-immigration countries in Europe
@missliterallywho This tbh. I'm against all of it at this point.
@Bjorn - MD I was just going off of Nemets' clarification re: Filipinos and race
Literally all of it except maybe super special case by case basis stuff
@missliterallywho Oh, okay. Technically, they're considered part of the Mongoloid race.
Last I heard, anyway, though Nemets is doubtless more knowledgeable.
Close the borders, but let the Filipina owner of my favorite clothing shop stay
She has earned it, promise
We have the lumpia recipes.
I used to think some immigration was necessary but it literally isn't
We could have 0 and be fine
The thing is, even in cases where you do need a foreigner to do something, the exact same thing can be accomplished with guest workers as with immigrants
Sooo much better than fine...
No point in inviting people into your country permanently. Much better to only keep them while they're useful.
In Israel guest workers must remain celibate by law
Huh. WOW.
based
Very
tbh I think we should have public positions and private positions on things
it might not be a good idea to tell people that I'm against all immigration
since it just sounds so extreme
The only reason we have birthright citizenship is cos those Chinese people had a kid here way back when
but there's no reason we can't have private positions that are edgier
Depends on who you're talking to, but true in most cases.
One of the dumbest arguments against identitarianism is that it will never be acceptable
uh... okay... well you don't have to tell people everything, you can just tell people the acceptable stuff
I don't think zero immigration is edgy but I am in favor of [redacted] so I'm probably a bad gauge
Lol
dude I love [redacted]
It's going to be a fun weekend
Mohammed definitely knew a thing or two about the will to power. That's for sure...
everyone should cancel their plans this weekend and buy tickets to Montana last minute
we're going to have a very white MLK party
Man, Tucker came out swinging tonight. From anti-Whiteness to SPLC RICO case to Putin being "less of a threat" to the U.S. than Google to anti-wed-smonking-posting to pro-Yellow Vest stuff ๐ช
worth it
Slack changed up it's branding
I saw
Holy shit Matt Parrot on Twitter is THIS STUPID!!
Irony understanding level 0/10
lmao
My sides lmfao
@Freiheit - CA bro is that a girl??
I can only assume lol
Ancient pic
The point is the propaganda, not the masculine arm.
Girls don't exist
That's so true
and very woke.
Did someone hear something?
What is @Papa Pizzagate ?
Oh...I get it...
I'll remember that @Papa Pizzagate
Moms aren't girls, we're moms
Anytime @Freiheit - CA
@Jacob I am also [redacted] but I try my best to keep the normie mindset relevant when I red pill them.
This is what weโre up against in the fight against low white birth rates
She looks like she's in college
Unbelievable how brainwashed white college girls are
And they wonder why they loathe themselves so much
Yeah it's important to avoid these kinds of people
Very toxic
Cute blonde sat by me in class last week and we start talking, ask her major and she says, "Diversity Studies" wtf
@Nemets good point
@Lawrence of Eurabia "Oh really I'm taking a genetics class too!"
Hey, guys! Sorry to interrupt convo... Sad to miss fireside tonight. Anything different to share?
Someone made up minutes if you scroll up quite a bit
Minutes from Fireside Chat:
Plans to acquire national headquarters Patrick is speaking at a conference Donors are helping with covering legal costs Growing majority of white people want wall Coordinators will face more pressure to get active and chapters will be expected to do more than flyering LOPF will have activism Remember important dates for LOPF which are in the LOPF text channel Consider becoming a patron Lawsuit will probably last for at least another few months, opposition is alleging a conspiracy Even if we went bankrupt in a worst case scenario we would just transition to another organization GOP establishment is bad but theyโre the best vehicle for electing a pro white person Instead of playing video games and watching Netflix go out and network
(Not mine)
no
I just thought it was funny
anglo/german split but now 23andme says some Scandinavian
Lol Slav
Thanks, guys!
Yeah, those minutes are massively helpful. Although the fear of an IE bankruptcy is now causing me some anxiety.
Don't fret
Youโre right. Iโm a violinist. I donโt need to fret.
I actually ended up missing the fireside since I was performing some violin pieces. Beautiful European classical pieces and also a Civil War piece (was composed afterward but in the style). Do yourselves all a favor and see a live symphony perform some time.
I was in one for a while, and it helped me connect to my European roots musically.
@Chris N. - CA we're doing better than ever my man, we'll be okay. ๐
Estonia is rightfully Swedish
This is going to be fun, Coleman Hughes on Julian von Abele
https://quillette.com/2019/01/16/tiers-of-pride-and-shame/
"At a glance, itโs hard to reconcile the belief that von Abeleโs comments were bigoted with the fact that black activists routinely get praised for making similar statements. Von Abeleโs remark, โI love myself and I love white peopleโ sounds eerily similar to โI love my blackness and yours,โ the Twitter mantra of Black Lives Matter leader Deray McKesson. โWeโre white men, we did everything,โ nearly echoes a statement made in a commencement speech by Alicia Garza, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter: โWithout black womenโฆthere would be no me, no you, no us, no civilized society of which we speak. WeโI, you, and meโwe owe everything to black women.โ Von Abeleโs monologue, universally condemned, took lines straight from the scripts of Americaโs most celebrated racial justice advocates."
Standard pride for me not for thee really.
well his conclusion is that we ought to narrow the divide between what's acceptable in terms of pride for black people and white people, make it more of an even standard
my parents have been doing this funny thing where they try to make me more moderate by "bargaining" with me on my ideology
so they'll say things like "I'm not against *illegal* immigration either"
I find it hilarious because it's like going up to a commie and trying to deradicalize him by being like, "dude I get it, I think the government should build roads too"
This used to be diversity studies...now it's all feelings.
Muh calipers.
Soft science in college is a shame.
It seems a large amount of degrees force these types of studies on to students. ๐ก
I was relaxing, getting ready to go to bed about 45 min ago,until i hear the idiots behind us in the alley... was hard to tell sounded like caps or light firecrackers? Maybe even a 22 cap? Dogs were going nuts,called it in for a change since haven't done all the other regular shots in awhile,pretty bad when I've become used to hearing it more so... i don't know this just annoyed me,couldn't figure out if it was a capgun or what...finally relaxing a lil better but jeez this is ridiculous....
Annoyed
It broke my mellow i was enjoying reading about vikings damn it...
More so crafting viking jewelry
@celticflame Sorry to hear it! Hope it's nothing
Thanks @apronandlace I hope so too๐ค
I was 100% correct to not believe this map
@NateDahl76 The eternal danger of fake stats.
Probably originated by people who don't like us, hoping we'll use it and make ourselves look like fools.
True that
Knew that had to be fake when I saw Israel was green.
I like my new profile pic
Just lol
About that โwokeโ white woman above. I find that women typically conform to their surrounding peers. Women will also completely flip script if in a relationship with a strong male, reflecting completely his beliefs. I think this was a survival mechanism andantes long ago. We donโt have to worry about changing the minds of women so much, change the minds of men and they will follow.
adapted* damned spell check
Very powerful ad from an upstart watch company https://youtu.be/x_HL0wiK4Zc
Egard Watches is moving in the right direction. Much better than Gillette. Still, I couldn't help but notice how they emphasized black men, but black men rarely exhibit manly virtue.
Yes, but let's not make the good the enemy of the perfect
@Nemets You can always tell when people have an agenda as compared to having actual discussion about issues, I hope people wake up to this.
Oh look another non white person advocating for wholesale settlement of America
I want to get an opinion from everyone. Do you think those of European decent should carve out a place of their own and stay separated? Much of the world has benefited from colonialism, in the long run. Do you think there should be another wave of colonialism (not just military bases everywhere like the current system, but actual colonies like in SA)?
Can I advocate for both? (not that I am....)
Iโll accept the egard cucking for blacks as long as they donโt hate whites. Theyโre misunderstanding of reality is less important than the actual putting down of men and white men specifically
Colonialism has pretty well backfired on us in a number of ways. If you're going to conquer a place, *conquer* it, don't try to make nice.
Colonialism is a waste of effort unless the land you're already on really and truly just can't sustain you anymore. All these big empires end up the same way. Everyone should leave others alone and be left alone.
A nation should honestly be able to sustain itself in all its needs, and not require other people's goods to become powerful. Plenty of good examples in history where a wise nation over-powered a greedy empire.
Civilization has to be scaled back then, self sufficiency is impossible with how we live anymore.
In the west anyway.
Colonies are also very expensive to maintain, it often costs more to administer a colony (espsecially ones with large aboriginal inhahibitants) than the colony produces in revenue. With some execptions.
All in all I don't think colonies are worth the effort, most of the time.
@Virgil This. Colonies made a few people very rich, like the case of the British East India Company, but they were a net loss.
The real question we should ask is how have we benefitted from colonialism as opposed to how the rest of the world have benefitted. I think it's debatable how much Europeans actually benefitted from colonialism, outside of the places that we settled directly.
@unclefesterr Very true, India itself is a good example, while the colony was enormously profitable it was also enormously expensive to maintain, especially after the British government took over direct administration of India.
Consider how many colonies are still held and maintained by their original colonizing nation. Should speak to colonialisms long term sustainability.
I am still bitter towards the Conquistadors for saddling us with the mestizo menace.
@Papa Pizzagate From my understanding, most European colonial holding today have been reduced to largely irrelevant places like a few islands in the Pacific or Carribbean or the north coast of South America.
Much of Englandโs small settlements were for naval logistics. Bermuda and Hong Kong ect. Mercantilism takes infrastructure.
I'll play devil's advocate and say that what the Conquistadors did made sense to a degree. In their minds it would be much easier to rule over people with some Spanish ancestry and who had a reason to be loyal to Spain as opposed to Amerindians who would be completely ungovernable.
From a short term perspective economically colonialism did make sense.
Granted in the modern economic context there is no long term reason to do so.
And what about the American colony? I would say, if it had been maintained as intended, the United States would have been a huge success. But youโre right, the days of just setting up a colony from scratch is over. Now it requires vast resources to protect and maintain its existence.
I would venture to say the American colonies worked better than most in part because population density was so incredibly low.
American colonies were in a way conquest rather than subjugation.
Having motives unrelated to trade surely made a difference as well.
True. Historically those with the goal of acquiring farmland have been quite motivated.
Countries founded as colonies, where the intention was to successfully conquer, are generally very successful countries. Any other colonies founded to be as a show of "wealth" back in the time, well those colonies are still complete crap, if they still exist at all.
Anyone know how often confirmation emails for LOPF go out?
we got another openly anti-white TA
@wayne peek in your neck of the woods
Hahaha. You saw this also? Im telling the boys tonight. We going to go and flyer.
the video was disgusting for the fact it takes a gay liberal jew guy to call him out while the dumb white kids giggle
his past comments openly call for the murder of whites and UGA stands behind him
i'm looking forward to @Asatru Artist - MD's new flyer
Mayn....sum fem wyipo mayn....dey juz gotta go. *ghetto noises*
*Smacks lips*
Anyway, so has anyone seen Allsups new video on "Trump doesn't need Congress to build the wall"?
No @Johnny B. Populus I'll probably watch it when I get off work
@Johnny B. Populus yea, i usually watch/listen to allsup or TRE on my way to work
Havenโt seen Allsupโs video but my bet is it relates to FtNโs recent deep dive on an alternate way to build the wall
@VinceChaos you got it
@Johnny B. Populus just watching allsup's now... the opening image cracked me up
Nice they have great researchers
The alt way to build it seems to good to be true itโs remarkably simple
mfw podcasters and youtubers are more qualified to run the nation than career politicians
Huge explosion at Lyon university in France. Could be anything at this point
@Goose Aaaaand, he's got a white wife. <:really:453005408064241674>
looks trans to me
That jawline though
WOW. POTUS just shut it down. I read the thread that guy posted. They didn't see that coming hahahaha. The man is psychologically messing with these people. Are we witnessing 4d chess? lol
The Dems will have zero issue ramming through any and everything they want when they regain control...we need to do the same.
@Asatru Artist - MD no way, we need to disavow people within our party so the dems will work with us
>thinking the current GOP and Dems are any different
We should have a text channel devoted to minutes from fireside chats @sigruna14
Excited, I think I can make it to the salt lake city event.... LOPF is too far but this one is within range for me. looking forward to meeting some folks!
@apronandlace If you haven't been to a big IE event, you need to do it. The members of this group are amazing, and a blast to hang out with, especially during large activism weekends.
@Asatru Artist - MD ๐
https://youtu.be/NznKJB0opc8
Tucker details the effort to frame political differences on Russia as treason and names Matt Zucker and Max Boot as people who do that....!
Never thought Iโd watch as much Fox News (read: Tucker) as Iโve been watching the last couple years since the election
๐๐ป <:tucker:378724715679711233>
Alright, now they're just flaunting it: https://www.rt.com/news/449068-netanyahu-wall-picture-twitter/
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1085957716613492736
Oh no how could this happen
How terrible
Man. Imagine what it's gonna be like with how contentious this shutdown already is, plus another Kavanaugh hearing on steroids...
Evil liberals keeping her working until the day she dies!!!111
@Papa Pizzagate pretty sure that's fake
Gateway pundit is the only one reporting it, but their source is the same source that first reported her cancer. @Jacob
According to @Ekdromoi, whom I trust to research his sources.
The source seems really sketchy
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