Message from @Sam Anderson
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Colonialism has pretty well backfired on us in a number of ways. If you're going to conquer a place, *conquer* it, don't try to make nice.
Colonialism is a waste of effort unless the land you're already on really and truly just can't sustain you anymore. All these big empires end up the same way. Everyone should leave others alone and be left alone.
A nation should honestly be able to sustain itself in all its needs, and not require other people's goods to become powerful. Plenty of good examples in history where a wise nation over-powered a greedy empire.
Civilization has to be scaled back then, self sufficiency is impossible with how we live anymore.
In the west anyway.
Colonies are also very expensive to maintain, it often costs more to administer a colony (espsecially ones with large aboriginal inhahibitants) than the colony produces in revenue. With some execptions.
All in all I don't think colonies are worth the effort, most of the time.
@Virgil This. Colonies made a few people very rich, like the case of the British East India Company, but they were a net loss.
The real question we should ask is how have we benefitted from colonialism as opposed to how the rest of the world have benefitted. I think it's debatable how much Europeans actually benefitted from colonialism, outside of the places that we settled directly.
@unclefesterr Very true, India itself is a good example, while the colony was enormously profitable it was also enormously expensive to maintain, especially after the British government took over direct administration of India.
Consider how many colonies are still held and maintained by their original colonizing nation. Should speak to colonialisms long term sustainability.
I am still bitter towards the Conquistadors for saddling us with the mestizo menace.
@Papa Pizzagate From my understanding, most European colonial holding today have been reduced to largely irrelevant places like a few islands in the Pacific or Carribbean or the north coast of South America.
Much of England’s small settlements were for naval logistics. Bermuda and Hong Kong ect. Mercantilism takes infrastructure.
I'll play devil's advocate and say that what the Conquistadors did made sense to a degree. In their minds it would be much easier to rule over people with some Spanish ancestry and who had a reason to be loyal to Spain as opposed to Amerindians who would be completely ungovernable.
From a short term perspective economically colonialism did make sense.
Granted in the modern economic context there is no long term reason to do so.
And what about the American colony? I would say, if it had been maintained as intended, the United States would have been a huge success. But you’re right, the days of just setting up a colony from scratch is over. Now it requires vast resources to protect and maintain its existence.
I would venture to say the American colonies worked better than most in part because population density was so incredibly low.
American colonies were in a way conquest rather than subjugation.
Having motives unrelated to trade surely made a difference as well.
Countries founded as colonies, where the intention was to successfully conquer, are generally very successful countries. Any other colonies founded to be as a show of "wealth" back in the time, well those colonies are still complete crap, if they still exist at all.
Anyone know how often confirmation emails for LOPF go out?
we got another openly anti-white TA
@wayne peek in your neck of the woods
Hahaha. You saw this also? Im telling the boys tonight. We going to go and flyer.
the video was disgusting for the fact it takes a gay liberal jew guy to call him out while the dumb white kids giggle
his past comments openly call for the murder of whites and UGA stands behind him
i'm looking forward to @Asatru Artist - MD's new flyer
Mayn....sum fem wyipo mayn....dey juz gotta go. *ghetto noises*
*Smacks lips*
Anyway, so has anyone seen Allsups new video on "Trump doesn't need Congress to build the wall"?
No @Johnny B. Populus I'll probably watch it when I get off work
@Johnny B. Populus yea, i usually watch/listen to allsup or TRE on my way to work
Haven’t seen Allsup’s video but my bet is it relates to FtN’s recent deep dive on an alternate way to build the wall
@VinceChaos you got it
@Johnny B. Populus just watching allsup's now... the opening image cracked me up
Nice they have great researchers
The alt way to build it seems to good to be true it’s remarkably simple