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2017-12-08 20:48:41 UTC

Yeah that's prob true I tried making it and it was pretty bitter and dry and gross, the onions were good though lol

2017-12-08 20:48:54 UTC

You have to just barely cook it

2017-12-08 20:49:37 UTC

Hmm that makes sense

2017-12-08 20:52:01 UTC

Also dont salt until done cooking. If you salt before you cook it dries it out even more.

2017-12-08 21:10:41 UTC

Would it be wise for me to start portioning out meals for the week? I've seen professional body-builders do this, and seems like a good idea.

2017-12-08 21:11:14 UTC

Yes meal planning and portioning is a very good idea!

2017-12-08 21:11:39 UTC

it saves money too and helps make sure youโ€™re sticking to macros(if youโ€™re into that)

2017-12-08 21:12:30 UTC

Wife and I are trying out planning, and has worked well! I'll look into it then, PRobably saves time in the long run as well

2017-12-08 23:26:46 UTC

Sunday night and wed night cook/prep worked for me in the past

2017-12-09 00:37:25 UTC

Been trying to get my macros and micros in check but it's not easy

2017-12-09 00:43:13 UTC

56% carb 20% fat 21% protein

2017-12-09 01:42:51 UTC

I've been doing some research, and how should I go about portioning my meals?

2017-12-09 01:43:16 UTC

Broccoli, nuts, berries, etc?

2017-12-09 01:53:48 UTC

Hmmmm that is tough it depends on your goals right

2017-12-09 01:54:03 UTC

Like if you want to lose weight

2017-12-09 01:55:04 UTC

And things like your current weight and activity level should be taken into account too ๐Ÿ˜Š

2017-12-09 15:32:30 UTC

Bought chicken liver last night. Going to try to make this

2017-12-09 21:39:11 UTC


2017-12-10 03:13:02 UTC

What is up with this onion thing lol

2017-12-10 03:37:12 UTC

@Coghasta - FL see onionposting

2017-12-10 19:23:18 UTC

@StrawberryArmada Fast food is not a good source for looking for nutritious foods. I think if you eat grass fed beef and free range poultry etc you will gain great nutrients and gains without side effects brought about by fast food and high sugar diets that most americans consume.

2017-12-10 19:25:11 UTC

Beef. But also eat some vegetables like chicken or pork

2017-12-10 19:25:42 UTC

All meat diet.

2017-12-10 19:48:57 UTC

I only eat fast food

2017-12-10 19:49:03 UTC

No time to go slow

2017-12-10 21:17:17 UTC

Someone told me i should eat lots of fats and calories so i'm eating some ice cream

2017-12-10 21:17:30 UTC

I love this dietary advice

2017-12-10 21:29:08 UTC


2017-12-10 22:37:08 UTC

support Ben and Jerry's. They are the accelerationist candidate for ice cream-funded degeneracy.

2017-12-10 22:37:36 UTC


2017-12-10 22:37:38 UTC

Wow... I'm finally an alpha now

2017-12-10 22:38:19 UTC

Here's a repost from the old server. Paleo Mac and cheese. The "macaroni" is diced cauliflower


2017-12-10 22:43:43 UTC

I thought cheese wasn't Paleo?

2017-12-10 22:44:22 UTC

Definitely isnt. Cheating is what a caveman would do though

2017-12-10 22:45:18 UTC

Meant to type keto. I'm a nutrition noob but the chef wasn't

2017-12-10 22:45:38 UTC

Oh. Well I dunno what that is but sounds fancy

2017-12-11 02:07:12 UTC

Does anyone know what effects drinking a lot of tea has on you? Iced tea (sans sugar, of course,) is basically all I think, and several more cups of hot tea before bed. A while ago I experienced kidney stones for the first time, and needless to say thatโ€™s something Iโ€™d rather avoid in the future. Iโ€™ve read that drinking too much tea, coffee, and soda (donโ€™t drink the last one at all,) can sometimes cause kidney stones, but does anyone here know anything about that? How much is safe to drink then? Whatโ€™s optimal?

2017-12-11 02:41:43 UTC

My wife can't drink much tea bc of kidney stones.

2017-12-11 02:41:55 UTC

According to doctors

2017-12-11 02:42:23 UTC

I wonder if it depends on the tea

2017-12-11 03:01:16 UTC

Might. I know they told my wife it was minerals from the tea leaves. Probably have to look at nutritional info to determine if one is worse than the other.

2017-12-11 04:07:47 UTC

Do Brits get a lot of kidney stones? If not I call bs on that advice

2017-12-11 04:09:11 UTC

Never got a kidney stone yet, but could be the tea you drink.

2017-12-11 04:09:44 UTC

Its also possible it's just the inability to process minerals in the tea quick enough to exit the body

2017-12-11 04:10:33 UTC

@The Eternal Anglo many different kinds

2017-12-12 05:24:54 UTC

How the fuck does tea give you kidney stones? Wtf that makes me mad

2017-12-12 05:25:15 UTC

I refuse to cut down on tea

2017-12-12 05:56:35 UTC

@Deleted User sounds like liberal bullshit tbh

2017-12-12 06:03:24 UTC

You would think the water in the tea would counteract any ill effects of minerals or whatever

2017-12-12 06:06:13 UTC

It's the oxalate in some types of tea apparently

2017-12-14 02:45:50 UTC

RIP I drink a ton of Arizona Green Tea

2017-12-14 02:48:10 UTC

That has so much sugar

2017-12-16 01:28:55 UTC

Precious calories

2017-12-16 10:07:26 UTC

Drink milk for liquid calories

2017-12-17 01:56:56 UTC

So what's the rundown on IBS and nutrition?

2017-12-17 17:33:01 UTC

@Koba#0202 Don't eat fried potatoes

2017-12-17 17:34:07 UTC

Eat clean. Stay hydrated, and you should be good

2017-12-18 00:03:26 UTC

โ˜๐ŸปI thought I had ibs for a lot of my life until I got ahold of my diet

2017-12-18 00:03:40 UTC

Now I don't ever have a problem

2017-12-18 03:13:02 UTC

Interesting, that could be it then because it doesn't run in my family. At RIT I only really ate Oreos, scrambled eggs and ramen with a lot of alcohol on the weekends. Diets gotten better since then, I'll experiment with it some and see what results I get

2017-12-18 19:59:24 UTC

One of my new year resolutions is to improve my oral health. Does anyone have recommendations for a good natural toothpaste?

2017-12-18 20:01:37 UTC

And actually since I'm asking this, perhaps we could also add hygiene channel?

2017-12-18 20:01:37 UTC

I like perioclear a lot

2017-12-18 20:02:07 UTC

What's good about it?

2017-12-18 20:02:35 UTC
2017-12-18 20:05:49 UTC

Oh that looks really good. I've been looking for one that doesn't have toxic fluride in it.

2017-12-18 20:06:48 UTC

Yeah give it a shot and let me know what you think

2017-12-18 20:09:20 UTC

Thanks man I will.

2017-12-19 00:55:12 UTC

Check toms or even (((dr bronners)))

2017-12-19 03:31:38 UTC

@Deleted User how long does that one tube usually last you?

2017-12-19 03:33:22 UTC

Good question. Same size as standard toothpaste.

2017-12-19 03:34:28 UTC

Toms of Maine? I love that toothpaste

2017-12-19 03:35:00 UTC


2017-12-19 03:46:14 UTC

Toms is good, but they only own 15 percent of the company. Colgate owns the rest.

2017-12-19 03:46:31 UTC

Jason's is good, too.

2017-12-19 03:46:39 UTC


2017-12-19 13:18:00 UTC

I've used Jason before. I liked it also.

2017-12-19 13:18:29 UTC

No homo

2017-12-20 19:06:14 UTC

Jasonโ€™s is good, can confirm

2017-12-24 02:38:33 UTC


2017-12-24 02:38:59 UTC

The Chad meal prep step one.

2017-12-24 02:39:17 UTC


2017-12-24 20:12:39 UTC


2017-12-25 13:47:02 UTC
2017-12-25 13:47:09 UTC

really good website to learn info about supplements

2017-12-28 11:24:26 UTC

@Fox whole turkey is probably cheaper than frozen ground turkey isnโ€™t it?

2017-12-28 11:56:04 UTC

Get the whole turkey. It's not as processed, and the organ meats are high in nutrients.

2017-12-28 12:51:15 UTC

@Deleted User I would assume so, yes.

2018-01-03 05:34:28 UTC

Are there any good ways to make beef liver?

2018-01-03 12:49:12 UTC

Depends on if you like beef liver...

2018-01-03 12:49:56 UTC

If you hate it then chop it up real small and add it to something like meatballs, chili, spaghetti sauce or something like that with a bunch of ground beef.

2018-01-03 12:50:27 UTC

If you do like it then just sear it hard in a cast iron or on the grill and donโ€™t cook it over medium.

2018-01-03 13:08:01 UTC

Cook it with onions too, very ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

2018-01-03 17:10:23 UTC


2018-01-03 18:47:01 UTC

>cooking onions

2018-01-03 18:47:26 UTC


2018-01-04 04:42:11 UTC

Iโ€™ve been buying Vegan protein powder from Costco over the past few months because it just looks healthier. Can you make any gains from it though or does it just give you an adequate amount of protein to be moderately in-shape?

2018-01-04 05:56:53 UTC

It's a good source of bioavailable protein. I used it for a year and never noticed a difference between that and whey other than texture, taste, etc

2018-01-04 05:57:08 UTC
2018-01-04 20:54:14 UTC

@BigBadSaxon#3903 Thanks man, thatโ€™s what I figured. My client sells nutritional supplements online and said that there was some chemical in the whey which provides toning for you muscles thatโ€™s not in Vega.

2018-01-05 15:39:13 UTC

I don't like that article. If we should only eat what our Paleolithic ancestors ate then we shouldn't be eating or drinking 90% of what people eat nowadays. No coffee, no avocado, no potatoes, no rice, no tuna, no pineapple, no coconut, etc... it's basically just an anti-dairy article, and at the end they even say that the most interesting point imo (gut bacteria) hasn't had any proven effects positive *or* negative

2018-01-05 15:43:09 UTC

I have spent many years cycling as transportation to and from work. I would sometimes cycle 30 min to get to work, I would work 12 hours, and then I would cycle the whole hour to get home. I would do this several days per week. The only reason why this was possible is because I was consuming recovery drinks within the 30 minute time frame. Without recovery drinks, I never could have maintained the energy level necessary to accomplish this.
You can make a case that perhaps whey is not the best protein for this, but recovery drinks, particularly grass-fed whey mixed with rice milk, massively reduced my recovery time.

2018-01-05 15:45:41 UTC

There are many things that are "natural" that aren't necessarily good. Snake venom is "natural". So is dog shit. We are conscious beings, and we can add things to our diet and adapt over generations. It's called "evolution". Evolution is about as natural as it gets.

2018-01-05 16:17:34 UTC

If you canโ€™t process dairy, you arenโ€™t white. Additionally, if we are going to have a civilization we will have cheese production and will need a use for whey.

2018-01-05 16:30:29 UTC

To be fair it is much better to get your nutrients from actual food.

2018-01-05 16:31:05 UTC

But no, I think anyone who thinks correct supplementation is somehow bad for you is autistic and likely a soy goy

2018-01-05 16:55:14 UTC

Give us this day our daily macronutrients

2018-01-05 16:55:20 UTC


2018-01-05 17:11:03 UTC

Sounds like no one read the article

2018-01-05 17:13:33 UTC

I believe whey protein powder increases your risk of testicular cancer

2018-01-05 17:16:53 UTC

Bad for your hormones

2018-01-05 17:18:18 UTC

Try using protein powder that doesn't contain massive quantities of dairy

2018-01-05 21:11:27 UTC

Rate my supps



2018-01-05 21:16:26 UTC

Huge sale at Sprouts today

2018-01-05 21:16:30 UTC

35% off

2018-01-05 21:24:47 UTC

10/10 would ingest

2018-01-06 02:18:45 UTC

Wow nice stack

2018-01-06 02:19:36 UTC

I don't even know what some of that stuff is

2018-01-06 02:23:36 UTC


2018-01-06 02:24:05 UTC

is that non-whey?

2018-01-06 02:24:12 UTC

Non whey yes

2018-01-06 02:24:59 UTC

More expensive than whey though

2018-01-06 02:25:18 UTC

right, whey a little rough on the stomache was gonna give it a shot

2018-01-06 02:26:30 UTC

I've been using this stuff for a while and i like it, the flavor is breddy good

2018-01-06 02:27:29 UTC

It's got more than protein that's why i prefer it

2018-01-06 02:27:53 UTC

This one also has probiotics and a good amount of vitamins

2018-01-06 02:28:13 UTC

"risk of testicular cancer" is enough for me to pay a bit extra

2018-01-06 02:28:54 UTC

It's because of the way it can mess with hormones

2018-01-06 02:29:37 UTC


2018-01-06 02:30:05 UTC

I'll definitely give it a shot, been looking for an alternative

2018-01-06 02:30:32 UTC

Ok buy it off Amazon it's cheaper lol

2018-01-06 02:31:49 UTC

It's still 'expensive I think 2 dollars a serving

2018-01-06 02:32:09 UTC

But I love this stuff lmao

2018-01-06 02:32:15 UTC

that's manageable

2018-01-06 02:32:38 UTC

I'm a cheap ass about food ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-01-06 02:32:58 UTC

it's the best investment!

2018-01-06 02:33:08 UTC

So true

2018-01-06 02:33:08 UTC

besides mcdonalds

2018-01-06 02:33:38 UTC

Made that mistake of being too cheap with food buying ramen noodles every day

2018-01-06 02:33:50 UTC

Gained 20 lbs of fat

2018-01-06 02:34:00 UTC


2018-01-06 02:34:22 UTC

Yeah good thing I lost it all though

2018-01-06 02:34:53 UTC

Can't live off of ramen noodles haha

2018-01-06 02:36:41 UTC

no not for long anyways, I'm going in opposite direction, put on 20 lb since starting back up at gym, 150 to 170

2018-01-06 02:36:57 UTC

really fast too, noob gains

2018-01-06 02:37:09 UTC

20 lbs muscle?

2018-01-06 02:37:22 UTC

has to be largely muscle

2018-01-06 02:37:29 UTC

will slow down now probably

2018-01-06 02:37:36 UTC

Woah that's good though

2018-01-06 02:37:46 UTC

I was surprised

2018-01-06 02:37:59 UTC

*steps on scale* damn!

2018-01-06 02:38:01 UTC

How long it take to get to that

2018-01-06 02:38:14 UTC

two months maybe

2018-01-06 02:38:20 UTC

Woah sheesh

2018-01-06 02:38:30 UTC

Gonna get stretch marks ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-01-06 02:38:34 UTC


2018-01-06 02:38:48 UTC

That's pretty impressive

2018-01-06 02:39:06 UTC

that's why I dont want to stop shakes ha

2018-01-06 02:39:17 UTC

For real

2018-01-06 02:39:25 UTC

What's your protein intake now

2018-01-06 02:39:42 UTC

don't count :/

2018-01-06 02:40:14 UTC

Lol I guess eventually you'll have to count macros

2018-01-06 02:40:56 UTC

yep, need some app or something I guess

2018-01-06 02:41:00 UTC

or a really good chart

2018-01-06 02:41:16 UTC

Hmm what phone do u have

2018-01-06 02:41:34 UTC


2018-01-06 02:41:57 UTC

Does the apple have a health app already ?

2018-01-06 02:42:11 UTC

I know mine did

2018-01-06 02:42:40 UTC

probably, sounds easy enough

2018-01-06 02:43:19 UTC

oh yea, nice here it is

2018-01-06 02:43:24 UTC


2018-01-06 02:45:11 UTC

not sure I'm organized enough to document everything but I'll work towards it... I tend to do better with shooting from the hip

2018-01-06 02:45:24 UTC

Ok cool it's actually pretty easy to do

2018-01-06 02:45:35 UTC

I've been doing it for a bit now

2018-01-06 02:46:09 UTC

So right after you eat something you should probably log it in the app so u don't forget what you ate

2018-01-06 02:46:32 UTC

And if it's like mine, the app will tell you the macros of the food you type in

2018-01-06 02:47:29 UTC

I'll give it a shot, good habit to form

2018-01-06 02:47:49 UTC


2018-01-06 02:47:54 UTC

Like this

2018-01-06 02:48:06 UTC

lol length and everything

2018-01-06 02:48:12 UTC

Haha ikr

2018-01-06 02:48:28 UTC

ill keep my ruler handy

2018-01-06 02:48:33 UTC

I mean what kind of autist measures their bananas

2018-01-06 02:48:53 UTC


2018-01-06 02:48:54 UTC

I'm gonna have to try this

2018-01-06 02:49:35 UTC

And it will tell you what your macros are for the whole day or it should

2018-01-06 02:49:40 UTC


2018-01-06 02:50:40 UTC

nice, okay I'll start tomorrow why the hell not

2018-01-06 02:50:57 UTC

It might be interesting just to know

2018-01-06 02:51:19 UTC

easy to over estimate without tracking, in many things

2018-01-06 02:51:23 UTC

finance too obviously

2018-01-06 02:51:44 UTC

Yeah you may be surprised

2018-01-06 02:51:51 UTC

most likely

2018-01-06 02:52:12 UTC

What is the protein shake you take now

2018-01-06 02:54:09 UTC

it's this stuff "six star" pretty standard I think, just grabbed at walgreens

2018-01-06 02:55:45 UTC

actually the whole label ripped off when I opened it so that's all I can tell you lol

2018-01-06 02:56:08 UTC

it's almost gone

2018-01-06 02:56:13 UTC

That's funny lol

2018-01-06 02:56:38 UTC

I have when that happens cause then I forget what it is

2018-01-06 02:57:31 UTC

Good thing it's easy to remember a tub of powder as big as your torso

2018-01-06 02:58:04 UTC

yea, don't put it near the laundry detergent

2018-01-06 02:58:33 UTC


2018-01-06 03:00:04 UTC

Was gonna look up the macros for the six star thing but there's like 100 different versions of it of course

2018-01-06 03:01:54 UTC

yea that might help, I'll use a generic one and then buy the vegi

2018-01-09 03:19:47 UTC


2018-01-09 03:20:02 UTC

Meal prep is fun they said.

2018-01-09 04:42:54 UTC

When you have to ice your tendons but you forgot to make ice. Frozen broccoli, bodybuilders best friend

2018-01-09 04:42:58 UTC


2018-01-09 04:48:55 UTC

Something something, of it looks stupid but works something something

2018-01-09 16:15:50 UTC

Your prepped meals look like you shoved two containers of pretzels into a model fridge at a home depot

2018-01-09 16:19:21 UTC


2018-01-09 17:17:47 UTC

So I bought a giant bag of flaxseed from Costco to put in my smoothies. It wasnโ€™t until I got home that I found out that flaxseeds have phytoestrogens, but they are lignans and not isoflavones.

2018-01-09 17:18:00 UTC

Yes :/

2018-01-09 17:18:24 UTC

I have removed most nonanimal fat sources

2018-01-09 17:18:35 UTC

I'll eat mixed nuts but flax is not ideal

2018-01-09 17:19:12 UTC

But is flax ok to consume?

2018-01-09 17:19:22 UTC


2018-01-09 19:19:03 UTC

Lots of Omega-3, which helps with Testosterone production, among other things.

2018-01-09 19:39:41 UTC

I believe the whole phytoestrogens thing is extremely overblown. Like Praetorian said, theyโ€™re actually a great source of omega 3s.
But if you *really* care about avoiding phytoestrogens that much, chia seeds are almost identical in nutritional profile.

2018-01-09 19:56:02 UTC

Check out this video if you want to see what soy does to men. Soyattle is full of these manginas.

2018-01-09 20:43:43 UTC

Chia seeds are the ideal food

2018-01-09 20:58:27 UTC

http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/fulltext Interesting read.

"The results of this meta-analysis indicate that neither soy protein nor isoflavones affect reproductive hormone concentrations in men regardless of age or cancer status. These results suggest that consumption of soy foods or isoflavone supplements would not result in the adverse effects associated with lower T levels (31, 32, 33)."

Vegan master race @Ekdromoi

2018-01-09 20:59:44 UTC

All I want to say is Iโ€™ve been vegan for 2 years and eat soy products semi regularly. No negative health effects, no problems with test levels, and I have been lifting 5 days per week over that same period - you can ask anyone from the Northeast who all know me IRL for reference.
Itโ€™s likely the Try Guys eat a standard omnivorous American diet and are betas by nature - not as a result of phytoestrogens.

2018-01-09 21:00:23 UTC


2018-01-09 21:06:05 UTC

They have no more arguments, they need to go vegan

2018-01-09 21:06:51 UTC

Iโ€™ve seen too many friendships die this way.

2018-01-09 21:09:59 UTC

Agreed, but if they have can't formulate an argument against it or any argument they have doesn't hold water logically or in terms of health, then they should go vegan. It's definitely not a pressing issue right now, but when we have our future secured, it'll be a talking point then.

2018-01-09 22:24:27 UTC

I go full cod liver oil for fats

2018-01-09 22:24:32 UTC

Omega 3 I mean

2018-01-09 22:24:51 UTC

My system is very sensitive

2018-01-09 22:25:13 UTC

Would rather avoid all possible sources of estrogen

2018-01-09 23:50:59 UTC

Yeah, the soy argument for whatever reason can get pretty heated.

2018-01-09 23:51:38 UTC

It is not de wae

2018-01-09 23:52:07 UTC

We had a new IE member flip out in here a while back -- he told someone who was arguing that soy wasn't that bad that he was a Jewish shill and should get killed by antifa.

2018-01-09 23:52:12 UTC

Needless to say, we let him go.

2018-01-10 00:03:51 UTC


2018-01-10 00:39:51 UTC

what do you guys think of the ECA stack?

2018-01-10 00:40:05 UTC

Are primatene tablets a good way to get ephedrine for pre-workout?

2018-01-10 00:41:04 UTC

It works but the A is now considered unnecessary

2018-01-10 00:41:13 UTC

Bronkaid is the common go to for ephedrine

2018-01-10 00:41:40 UTC

Can be bought behind the counter at Walgreens.

2018-01-10 00:42:14 UTC

Just be careful because it can get your heart rate really high if you do HIIT or any high intensity cardio

2018-01-10 00:42:52 UTC

want to do it in combo with intermittent fasting

2018-01-10 00:43:06 UTC

i don't do HIIT

2018-01-10 00:45:03 UTC

That's the best way to do it I think

2018-01-10 00:45:21 UTC

And definitely don't do MMA while on it

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