Chia seeds are the ideal food

http://www.fertstert.org/article/S0015-0282(09)00966-2/fulltext Interesting read.

"The results of this meta-analysis indicate that neither soy protein nor isoflavones affect reproductive hormone concentrations in men regardless of age or cancer status. These results suggest that consumption of soy foods or isoflavone supplements would not result in the adverse effects associated with lower T levels (31, 32, 33)."

Vegan master race @Ekdromoi

All I want to say is I’ve been vegan for 2 years and eat soy products semi regularly. No negative health effects, no problems with test levels, and I have been lifting 5 days per week over that same period - you can ask anyone from the Northeast who all know me IRL for reference.
It’s likely the Try Guys eat a standard omnivorous American diet and are betas by nature - not as a result of phytoestrogens.

BUT ITS OK IF YOU DISAGREE AND ARENT VEGAN THATS FINE YOU DONT HAVE TO EAT SOY IF YOU DONT WANT TO

They have no more arguments, they need to go vegan

I’ve seen too many friendships die this way.

Agreed, but if they have can't formulate an argument against it or any argument they have doesn't hold water logically or in terms of health, then they should go vegan. It's definitely not a pressing issue right now, but when we have our future secured, it'll be a talking point then.

I go full cod liver oil for fats

Omega 3 I mean

My system is very sensitive

Would rather avoid all possible sources of estrogen

Yeah, the soy argument for whatever reason can get pretty heated.

It is not de wae

We had a new IE member flip out in here a while back -- he told someone who was arguing that soy wasn't that bad that he was a Jewish shill and should get killed by antifa.

Needless to say, we let him go.

Lol

what do you guys think of the ECA stack?

Are primatene tablets a good way to get ephedrine for pre-workout?

It works but the A is now considered unnecessary

Bronkaid is the common go to for ephedrine

Can be bought behind the counter at Walgreens.

Just be careful because it can get your heart rate really high if you do HIIT or any high intensity cardio

want to do it in combo with intermittent fasting

i don't do HIIT

That's the best way to do it I think

And definitely don't do MMA while on it

What's the pro/cons of that vs a traditional pre workout powder like no explode or c4? I'm trying to start working out before work but it's hard for me to get going

ECA is primarily used for fat loss

It's not really a pre workout but it will definitely give you energy

Ya I knew it gave you energy. I thought the fat loss just came from working out with the energy it gave you. I am definitely not wanting to lose any weight so I better stay away. I guess I'll try a good pre workout. I've used a couple different ones in the past being the two I previously listed.

Fat loss occurs on ECA by increasing your resting heart rate. Studies show it helps decrease bodyfat while retaining significant amounts of muscle mass

I'd just go for a preworkout... my favourite is nitraflex from GAT or Bang

Ok thanks man I'll check them out.

I'm never going vegan ahaha stay mad soyboys check 'em ☝🏻☝🏻️☝🏻️ (I'm only being slightly ironic)

@JesseJames i workout before work and NOxplode is essential

cant get up without it

It's like crack

ECA is pretty over rated, but I might just have a degenerately high tolerance to stims.

The first few weeks of taking it it will definitely supress your appetite though so that's a bonus if you're cutting.

Make sure you are still getting enough protein though.

@Zyzz ya I've used noxplode before as well. It seemed to do great. It's a different ball game going in the gym before work though lol. I'm not a morning person.