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I have to keep my Russiabooism down because most of my friends are Ukrainian
outside IE that is
Can you re-spell it like I did pls?
immigrants are bad and should be returned to their country of origin. not integrating immigrants ensures that they remain as out groups, separate from the nation they immigrated to.
is the argument
@sigruna14 Yes, because that's a false dialectic. Not that I'm accusing you of intentionally constructing a false dialectic, because your confusion makes sense.
Assimilation causes problems, while lack of assimilation also causes problems. This sounds weird, until you consider the third option: end immigration.
Okay. I accept your answer, and hope the topic can die on that note. I just had to hear the logic there.
That's fair
I need a white girl.
If by extreme they are talking about the cringe factor of the neckbeards.
Fairs are a good date.
https://www.cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs
New data dropped on immigrant welfare usage
Christmas fair best.
Ren fair questionable
State fair smelly.
County fair good if girl has agrarian appreciation
Antique fairs are top fair
Never been to one.
Scroll half way down the study and youโll see welfare rates broken out by race
We just missed the November one here. Next one in July.
For your red pill folders
@Asatru Artist - MD We have a lot of research we're still sorting through. I have finals now so I'm doing too much per day, but once Winter Break starts I'll get the autism flowing
That's a good video on immigration
@MPI - VA If you have a redpill folder you're in for some good stuff because I'm working on a massive curated list of immigration research plus other projects
I tried using the Center for Immigration Studies on my sjw sister and she said it doesn't count because it's a right-wing think tank and biased
If you guys want some arguments right now, you should listen to my immigration immigration speech that I gave my pubic speaking class.
@Isabella Locke-MT If you want, I can get you alternative sources to cite
If anyone wants citations on any immigration related topic, I'm your guy
I will take you up on that later
Great. Seriously, if you guys need data on anything immigration related, feel free to DM or tag me.
I like these hard stats for when liberals begin their condescending demands that we prove the sky is blue right after having spoken in platitudes or having quoted the lamestream media and subversive academics
Negative information about immigration is right wing therefore all think tanks and studies which produce data other than 'immigrants are rainbows and unicorns' are right wing
I've seen a few based youtube videos where they gave liberal actors some facts on immigration to read lol
the actors didn't know what they were getting themselves into
Absolutely. We need both emotions and facts. @TylerHess
https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1069396212741222400?s=19
True Conservatives are incredibly based.
@missliterallywho Yes, it's generally not ideal to cite right wing think tanks directly. However, if you dig far enough, there is a lot of evidence that comes from "neutral" sources
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216
This is the article I recommend that everyone read. George Borjas is great because he's a Harvard economist, and his takes are pretty nuanced. He's not really "anti" immigration, however, what he says generally favors restrictions.
This article in particular is written in very simple language and is a good introduction.
https://gborjas.org
This is his blog, which has some more advanced writting on it. A lot of it is still pretty easy to understand, though.
@Nemets so the dotted line means non human? How come it comes from the "human" bubble though?
https://gborjas.org/2016/09/21/a-users-guide-to-the-2016-nas-immigration-report/
This is a pretty good guide to the 2016 NAS report on immigration. He explains the implications of the report so you don't have to read the whole thing yourself, and, if you get into an argument, you can just cite the report.
For immigrationโs economics, read George Borjas. For immigrationโs cultural impacts, read Robert Putnam. For immigrationโs history, read Peter Brimelow. For current immigration politics, read Daniel Horowitz. For left wing criticism of immigration, read Jefferson Cowie and Angela Nagle.
That should fully cover you in the issue. Feel free to message me for more.
Jacob recommended him too
Liberals don't like Borjas because he's an "outlier" when it comes to economists, however, he has good explanations for why the other economists are wrong, so you can pretty easily shut down that argument.
@Nemets I would have thought it was the Khoi who would have that profile. In older schemes they were considered the most archaic humans and I think wiki still says that
@MPI - VA Putnam is good to read, however, it's important to be prepared for when liberals try to say that "that's just one study" or whatever
Bantus are the biggest movers in SA though so maybe it doesn't matter that they aren't human if they are pushing out Khoi and Whites. Truly Bantus are the superior lifeform.
The replication rates for Putnam's work aren't perfect, however, (1) there is much more research showing negative than positive effects of diversity, and (2) the studies that don't replicate his conclusion have shitty methodologies, like using kitchen sink regressions
@Jacob plenty of other good diversity and trust studies out there. See Koopmans and Veit study out of Germany, or James Lawrence and Lee Bentleyโs study in the European sociological review from a couple years ago. Or Delhey and Newton in the same publication but itโs a bit older
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/diversity-proximity-war-the-reference-list/
This is a pretty good list, however, I'm working on a better one. Stay tuned.
Full disclosure, though, mine is going to take a while to come out
I love it when chat gets big brained
My autism is so satisfied right now
@MPI - VA My favorite study on diversity is the one that cherry picked a non random sample of countries and concluded that diversity actually increases social cohesion after controlling for a bunch of variables
Lol
Basically all the "immigration = good" studies are hilariously bad if you actually read them
The Robert Putnam study has been replicated a number of times. The most consistent result was that Robert Putnam was right. Th second most consistent result was that, once you controlled for Hispanic and Africans, diversity had no effect.
TFW you realize destroying gender relations is a double-edged sword. (Couldn't archive it due to Bloomberg blocking archival requests.)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-03/a-wall-street-rule-for-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost
@Gimlet Based Mike Pence style business
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Right?
Iโm a big fan of the โakshually immigrants are innovatorsโ studies that donโt adjust for race. Like 90% of the current immigrant CEOs are Asians and the 20th century ones were Jews. Latinos are drastically underrepresented among immigrant entrepreneurs
I suggest all men have an audio recorder app on their phone if they work with liberal women.
I don't think I've ever seen a study saying that Asian diversity has no effect @SeanVV
Gotta be careful with that, but not a bad idea.
Asians actually block vote Democrat worse than Hispanics.
obviously follow all your state laws concerning recording
@MPI - VA I actually wrote an article refuting that without bringing up race
let me find it
Asian voting is weird as fuck cause turnout is low. They went slightly GOP in 2010 but yeah on average they vote left of Latinos. Ever been to an Ivy League campus? Asians are heading all the left wing groups now. But theyโre BASED allies /s
Sheesh pakis are left of blacks
Asians aren't Republican. They just like Money so it seemed that way to the small brained.
Based Vietcong
Blacks > Asians > Hispanics
I'll bet the Vietnamese vote that way because they all live in Texas for some reason.
I feel like every day thereโs a new thought piece from some left wing south Asian girl with an unpronounceable name clogging up my news feed now. The phenomenon of young Indian/Pakistani/even East Asian women going far left (eg Sarah jeong) has been exploding
Also Vietnam is ex commie. Cuba effect
Yeah
@Gimlet Iโm so glad to read that the #metoo movement is backfiring !! It serves them well. And in a way this applies to other minorities too: Iโve had people telling me theyโd rather not hire anybody who could use the race card every minute.
But I mean they still went 2:1 Hillary
Asian women are far left, East Asian men are slightly Trumpian, South Asian men are the most beta-cucked individuals on the planet
@MPI - VA The J-Left's new commissar class. White blue hair gay fatties aren't up to the task.
Blacks, Muslims amd Mestizos will still, as ever, be the muscle.
@Grayson Exactly. Let's hope the J-left's underhanded tactics continue to hurt them more than us.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN yup. Asians are taking the leading roles in the left. Theyโre less โwhiteโ than the Jews so they survive this whole intersectionalism shit better, but theyโre high enough IQ to lead . The ideal commissar class indeed.
@MPI - VA Here's the article I wrote about how immigrants aren't particularly innovative. I haven't posted it anywhere and it might need some editing.
Befriend Sparrows - the natural enemy of the ChiCom
Like think about how Bernie was โtoo whiteโ. Asians avoid those issues but have the capacity to lead
๐ฆ ๐ฆ
My all time favorite study was the one that concluded that illegal aliens commit less crime... based on a self reported survey
"hey bro do you commit crime"
"no essay"
"see, they're peaceful!"
*ese
*book report
@Jacob liberals also like to use state stats since they dont track it well and some not at all, unlike the federal stats
How they get that "immigrants commit less crime" is by excluding those born in the US. Second generation immigrants rebound to racial norms
According to my own reporting I won an Olympic bronze medal for judo in 2008, wrote three acclaimed novels, dated supermodels polygamously, and discovered four exoplanets
Some of the most insufferable shitlibs I know are Asian kids with conservative parents. I don't get it. My theory higher tribalism + being more wealthy/educated and exposed to the J-left narrative (like SWPLs)
If anyone wants to jump on the voice chat I have a story about my surprisingly good conversation with my grandmother about ethnonationalism.
@SeanVV You can debunk that without mentioning race
Immigrants have lower crime rates because the ones that commit serious crime get deported and don't get counted in the statistics
Even if illegals commit less crime, that means the system is working. You need to pressure illegals to not commit crimes
*New Study Finds That 100% of Identity Evropa Members are Very Fine People*
"hey are you a very fine person"
"yes of course"
The admin assistant/secretary At my previous job used to have a major crush on me and she would ask me out and she would start pouting and crying at her desk if I said no or if I didnโt talk to her all day and asked her how her day was. Every time I โd talk to other ladies in the department she would freak out. I went and told my boss about it several times and told him she was creating a very hostile environment for me and that I felt like I was walking on egg shells all the time around her and he pretty much took her side and told me that I should be kinder and nicer and more sensitive to her! Can you imagine if it would have been the reverse??
@Jacob It jives with other studies that have found that immigrants of all racial groups perform better than natives. Being an immigrant is a strong environmental effect that vanishes in one generation
Very fine people on both sides. On both sides
https://cis.org/Report/Immigration-and-Crime
From 1998 to 2007, 816,000 criminal aliens were removed from the United States because of a criminal charge or conviction. This is equal to about one-fifth of the nationโs total jail and prison population. These figures do not include those removed for the lesser offense of living or working in the country illegally. The removal and deportation of large numbers of criminal aliens may reduce immigrant incarceration rates because many will not return and re-offend, as is the case with many native-born criminals.
Mike Pence rule of dealing with women: don't
I can probably refute any reason they supposedly perform better
They're all really bad once you look into them
@Nemets I think tribalism comes in to the extent that they see themselves as "oppressed POC", despite being better off than whites
I've talked to Asian friends about it and it mostly comes down to "sometimes white people say rude things to us"
@unclefesterr They are spoiled entitled shits.
When compared to local populations before Hispanic immigrants displace (Hispanics displace blacks) they commit less crime, but not compared to the total population
@Jacob http://www.unz.com/article/a-troublesome-intelligence/ CHANDA CHISALA
I think I was woke to the AQ. before ANYTHING, after high school. Their narcissism, insular in group collaboration, and dishonesty disgusted me.
@Jacob Chanda Chisala has entire series on Unz that would provide a lot of fodder for a blogger
@VinceChaos All the statistics on immigrant crime are bullshit, because the immigrants that do commit serious crimes get deported and don't end up getting counted in the statistics.
Also, many of them don't commit crime because of fear of deportation.
getting woke to blacks was easier than getting woke to asians... like it's impossible to spend time around blacks and not realize something is up, some asians are capable of blending in @Wood-Ape - OK/MN
@Jacob closed borders and tough on illegals works
then you get to college and realize it's all of them that don't blend in lol
White Privilege exists because any time a society is designed by a certain group of people, it will be designed with their own people in mind, even if subconsciously. To end white privilege we need to let people of color have homelands of their own.
@Sam Southern - TN I was bullied by blacks growing up but I bought into the "cycle poverty makes IQs low and makes criminals." All of the asians being wealthier than my family (which did okay), eliminated that as a factor. Hence why I outright disliked Asians first
@VinceChaos Yes, my argument by itself isn't enough to justify legal immigration restrictions, however, it refutes the "immigrants commit less crime" point
There's other ways to justify restricting legals
tfw bougie so the economic reasons for blacks being dumb but asians being smart never clicked for me
Immigrants will actually admit that they made society worse but they coach it in "you deserve to lose your privilege"
@SeanVV The "lack" or IQ gap in Britain is easy to refute. If you look at black achievement in Britain, they're very disproportionately Nigerian. Igbo are pretty smart, but they're also massive outliers.
@SeanVV It is all so tiresome. That we have to become amateur experts in multiple academic fields to justify our safety and posterity.
Some privilege!
@SeanVV "Immigrants will actually admit that they made society worse but they coach it in "you deserve to lose your privilege""
dude this so much
I'm a child of immigrants and have a lot of friends who are children of immigrants. It's not that they necessarily disagree with my arguments, they just don't give a shit.
no I realize the yellows are a bigger threat than blacks lol I got woke to blacks first tho was what I was saying
It's beclause to most of the people who live here, America isn't a nation. It is an open air shopping mall, ATM, and the military to expand it.
I honestly sometimes wonder if I can still be friends with immigrants. I'm tired of hearing the constant entitlement, superiority complex, and openly boasting about welfare and visa fraud.
@Sam Southern - TN Luckily, yellows have a low TFR. China is a decade away from massive population greying and India will join them in the 2080s. We can win the demographic game against them.
The asians just see america as a marketplace to get rich
That's how all immigrants see it
@Jacob I have lots of immigrant and non-white friends, but what I eventually realized as I moved into a more diverse area was that, being from an upper class and educated background, I had self-selected away from the norm of most minorities
The rich asian women can be vicious too in how they look down on us
But immigrant children crash HARD, Hispanics constantly lament their sons become potatoes (in both shape and color)
They openly speak ill of our founders because of muh slavery and play that card all day while turning a blind eye to what they do their own people in sweatshops
Anyone who thinks Asians are our allies probably donโt speak mandarin. If you heard how they talk about us when they think we donโt understand, youโd never talk about based Asians again.
having nonWhite allies is broke af
Only Asians I admire are Japanese IN JAPAN. And even then I understand they will (naturally) do what is in their best interest at our expense if they need to
No non-white immigrants are our allies. But their kids don't speak mandarin.
@unclefesterr I think I was closer to the norm just by growing up around it
@MPI - VA My chinese friend told me that the word for black people in Chinese is something like "black monster" and white people are "white ghosts" or something.
Like not just slurs, the regular word to refer to us
@MPI - VA I can confirm. I grew up around immigrants and they think Americans are retarded.
Lol
i love it when the left eats itself
people think "Negro" is a slur now, and it wasn't a slur for a really long time. I assume that's similar to how the yellows think that "black monster" or whatever isn't a slur, but I'm sure some Leftist would think it is
big brained nibbas even getting #MeToo'd ๐๐ป
black monster? <:nervous:359009898115104770>
Negroid
I wonder if I could use my status to my advantage
<insert Empire of Dust clip here>
Remember when Clarence Thomas got MeToo'd at his confirmation? I just realized he basically invented DR3 to get out of it.
"As a child of immigrants, you're retarded for letting so many of us in"
That could actually cut deep
Well I am angry now thinking about Yellow Peril. Will walk away and channel that energy at the gym.
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN have a good workout Man
Anybody want to jump in voice?
In private, I don't think I've ever heard immigrants say they're here for the American dream or freedom or whatever. They're always pretty clear that they just followed the money.
@Cainnech - VA I would but I'm smoking a pipe right now
In the early 20th century 60% of immigrants from Italy later returned to Italy
China #1 economy in mid-2030s. India #2 economy in 2050s. Might be a white pill, might not.
I mean, will these countries become #1 without our monetary support?
If by support you mean free trade, yes.
@Jacob the pipe helps
I'll be impressed when India is #20 in indoor plumbing
Iโll be impressed when they have outdoor plumbing
Idk if y'all saw, but tumblr is banning adult content starting dec 17.
Of course it's funny to watch the left cry over something so degenerate and trivial, but I get deeper satisfaction knowing that fewer children won't be exposed to and influenced by such filth.
We pay more attention to the battles lost and feel the accompanying pain, but we are winning inch by inch; never forget that.
Is this a slippery slope though? first banning "adult content", then move on to other content?
Fight slippery slopes with slippery slopes <:4dchess:439923932062154782>
Looks like you'll have to peddle your filth elsewhere @Asatru Artist - MD <:teehee:381917632359563264>
@Asatru Artist - MD Libertarinism is dead.
Still like Ron Paul though.
libtardtarianism gay
Libertarianism is like democracy; it only works under "certain" circumstances.
I honestly feel we're hitting that point where the only options rn are globalism vs nationalism
@Asatru Artist - MD i promise to still buy your regulation-free bathtub gin though ๐ธ
Man thatโs a great picture in that article of that fella with the confederate flag shirt on
White people being active, having fun, and promoting a healthy lifestyle?
Can't have that
Well at least they aren't trying to just shut us down
Man itโd sure be a shame if those same fellas went back again later this month and tagged the same places over again
A SGA bill to do nothing except "denounce what they say" lol
imagine being this soy-filled
@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL fools...
The more they speak of us the stronger we become
We could write a PokemonGO style app for our fliers and these kids would go nuts! ๐
We are not trying to normalize ourselves. We are trying to normalize everyone else. Am I right? ๐
@Goose right? HAHAHA. Thanks for telling your entire school about us!
Loving the Christmas spirit around he- wait a minute... @Sam Southern - TN where the FRICK is your holiday cheer?
I am so pleased and amazed at how far we've come from a year ago. Almost daily attention now to our flyering. The exponential growth provided by the attention they give us is magnificent.
@Papa Pizzagate whoโs shopping pfpโs
Sky King will add a Christmas crown
Gibson. Or if you're patient I can do it tomorrow if u dm it to me
Who's making IE tree ornaments?
My dad was watching the Rugrats Hannakuh special earlier and kept ragging on how Jews just keep wanting more/are generally bad
Rugrats is the ultimate redpill
Pretty funny. Asian parents in nyc are freaking out because de blasio is getting rid of the standardized test requirement to get into the top nyc public schools. Right now theyโre 60% Asian but this is gonna turn them majority brown/black. There are like full on race wars at the parent meetings: https://www.chalkbeat.org/posts/ny/2018/12/03/manhattan-parents-get-heated-over-shsat-proposal/
The wonders of diversity. Never before seen forms of racial tension
I remember reading something in school while waiting to get to my guidance counsler so I don't remember what it what, it was about this new york town that basically had a race war for a few days between the black and jewish populations because the jews would cause traffic when they were coming home from temple
Crown heights riots
Itโs almost as if when multiple highly ethnocentric groups cluster in one small dense geographic area, tensions flare up. Crazy!
Oh there was a car crash, I thought it was literally over traffic and the blacks being inconvienced
Crown heights was because a Hasidic Jew accidentally ran over a black kid, but theyโre shitty drivers/blacks claimed it was intentional. Led to blacks beating/killing random Hasidim
Basically every time you hear about some anti Semitic hate crime in nyc (Brooklyn especially) youโll notice the perpโs race is never mentioned. Itโs because itโs almost exclusively black on Hasidim
Holiday Boi checking in here.
I looooove Christmas
My engineer roommate is gonna help us build a beer can Christmas tree.
Well. Basically he is gonna build it lol.
I have a $20 fake tree up that has a star and exactly two ornaments
but it's better than nothing lol
It must be tough fighting for Social Justice. "To each according to his/her/zer historical injustice, from each according to his/her/zer historical um... justice?"
My racial social construct has been oppressed!
Oh, crap! We made a mistake. Who is qualified to rewrite our social justice construct? Quick, test everyone!
This woman from facebook marketplace threw it in with some of the baby clothes she was selling me
It doesn't look very pretty but an ugly fake tree is better than no tree at all
Lol just wanna go into that meeting where Asians are vying with Blacks and Hispanics and be like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L78ORLT1zY
Black team huddle: "Please tell me there were Asian slave owners"
Is this agree & amplify in the post-McCain era?
"We're sorry. Your social credit application has been declined due to insufficient borrowing history."
This preggo needs some sleep. Night guys
@Isabella Locke-MT enjoy that sleep while you can!
@Nemets I get it. I'm mainly referring to the historical gymnastics required to justify reparations simply based on identity. Also, I'm mainly talking about the American slavery context.
Good to know though. Thanks.
@Asatru Artist - MD White ATMs are the only ones that still accept that social currency.
@Nemets Dinesh D'Souza was the real racist?
There are actually some Blacks in India that have been there for a while. And then the Africans that somehow ended up there recently (God knows why that place needs to be shittier) bonded with them.
This is not the exact video I had in mind but close.
Hey there recognizing trends is racist!
@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL an IE scavenger hunt would be pretty e๐
ฑic for lefties to follow.
"Come on guys, aren't we having fun?" -IE
"huh, legal immigrants suck too?"
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