Message from @SeanVV

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2018-12-04 02:12:08 UTC  

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

This is the article I recommend that everyone read. George Borjas is great because he's a Harvard economist, and his takes are pretty nuanced. He's not really "anti" immigration, however, what he says generally favors restrictions.

This article in particular is written in very simple language and is a good introduction.

2018-12-04 02:12:46 UTC  

https://gborjas.org

This is his blog, which has some more advanced writting on it. A lot of it is still pretty easy to understand, though.

2018-12-04 02:12:55 UTC  

@Nemets so the dotted line means non human? How come it comes from the "human" bubble though?

2018-12-04 02:14:49 UTC  

https://gborjas.org/2016/09/21/a-users-guide-to-the-2016-nas-immigration-report/

This is a pretty good guide to the 2016 NAS report on immigration. He explains the implications of the report so you don't have to read the whole thing yourself, and, if you get into an argument, you can just cite the report.

2018-12-04 02:15:52 UTC  

For immigration’s economics, read George Borjas. For immigration’s cultural impacts, read Robert Putnam. For immigration’s history, read Peter Brimelow. For current immigration politics, read Daniel Horowitz. For left wing criticism of immigration, read Jefferson Cowie and Angela Nagle.

That should fully cover you in the issue. Feel free to message me for more.

2018-12-04 02:16:08 UTC  

Jacob recommended him too

2018-12-04 02:16:18 UTC  

Liberals don't like Borjas because he's an "outlier" when it comes to economists, however, he has good explanations for why the other economists are wrong, so you can pretty easily shut down that argument.

2018-12-04 02:16:34 UTC  

@Nemets I would have thought it was the Khoi who would have that profile. In older schemes they were considered the most archaic humans and I think wiki still says that

2018-12-04 02:16:57 UTC  

@MPI - VA Putnam is good to read, however, it's important to be prepared for when liberals try to say that "that's just one study" or whatever

2018-12-04 02:17:39 UTC  

Bantus are the biggest movers in SA though so maybe it doesn't matter that they aren't human if they are pushing out Khoi and Whites. Truly Bantus are the superior lifeform.

2018-12-04 02:18:11 UTC  

The replication rates for Putnam's work aren't perfect, however, (1) there is much more research showing negative than positive effects of diversity, and (2) the studies that don't replicate his conclusion have shitty methodologies, like using kitchen sink regressions

2018-12-04 02:19:31 UTC  

@Jacob plenty of other good diversity and trust studies out there. See Koopmans and Veit study out of Germany, or James Lawrence and Lee Bentley’s study in the European sociological review from a couple years ago. Or Delhey and Newton in the same publication but it’s a bit older

2018-12-04 02:19:57 UTC  

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/diversity-proximity-war-the-reference-list/

This is a pretty good list, however, I'm working on a better one. Stay tuned.

2018-12-04 02:20:26 UTC  

Full disclosure, though, mine is going to take a while to come out

2018-12-04 02:27:38 UTC  

I love it when chat gets big brained

2018-12-04 02:27:52 UTC  

My autism is so satisfied right now

2018-12-04 02:30:08 UTC  

@MPI - VA My favorite study on diversity is the one that cherry picked a non random sample of countries and concluded that diversity actually increases social cohesion after controlling for a bunch of variables

2018-12-04 02:32:35 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-04 02:32:57 UTC  

Basically all the "immigration = good" studies are hilariously bad if you actually read them

2018-12-04 02:33:45 UTC  

The Robert Putnam study has been replicated a number of times. The most consistent result was that Robert Putnam was right. Th second most consistent result was that, once you controlled for Hispanic and Africans, diversity had no effect.

2018-12-04 02:33:49 UTC  

TFW you realize destroying gender relations is a double-edged sword. (Couldn't archive it due to Bloomberg blocking archival requests.)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-12-03/a-wall-street-rule-for-the-metoo-era-avoid-women-at-all-cost

2018-12-04 02:34:16 UTC  

@Gimlet Based Mike Pence style business

2018-12-04 02:34:17 UTC  

@SeanVV lol that's not true

2018-12-04 02:34:27 UTC  
2018-12-04 02:34:59 UTC  

I’m a big fan of the “akshually immigrants are innovators” studies that don’t adjust for race. Like 90% of the current immigrant CEOs are Asians and the 20th century ones were Jews. Latinos are drastically underrepresented among immigrant entrepreneurs

2018-12-04 02:35:03 UTC  

I suggest all men have an audio recorder app on their phone if they work with liberal women.

2018-12-04 02:35:19 UTC  

I don't think I've ever seen a study saying that Asian diversity has no effect @SeanVV

2018-12-04 02:35:25 UTC  

Gotta be careful with that, but not a bad idea.

2018-12-04 02:35:47 UTC  

Asians actually block vote Democrat worse than Hispanics.

2018-12-04 02:35:57 UTC  

obviously follow all your state laws concerning recording

2018-12-04 02:36:04 UTC  

@MPI - VA I actually wrote an article refuting that without bringing up race

2018-12-04 02:36:10 UTC  

let me find it

2018-12-04 02:36:46 UTC  

Asian voting is weird as fuck cause turnout is low. They went slightly GOP in 2010 but yeah on average they vote left of Latinos. Ever been to an Ivy League campus? Asians are heading all the left wing groups now. But they’re BASED allies /s

2018-12-04 02:37:23 UTC  

Sheesh pakis are left of blacks

2018-12-04 02:37:24 UTC  

Asians aren't Republican. They just like Money so it seemed that way to the small brained.

2018-12-04 02:37:26 UTC  

Based Vietcong

2018-12-04 02:38:22 UTC  

Blacks > Asians > Hispanics

2018-12-04 02:38:22 UTC  

I'll bet the Vietnamese vote that way because they all live in Texas for some reason.

2018-12-04 02:38:24 UTC  

I feel like every day there’s a new thought piece from some left wing south Asian girl with an unpronounceable name clogging up my news feed now. The phenomenon of young Indian/Pakistani/even East Asian women going far left (eg Sarah jeong) has been exploding

2018-12-04 02:38:46 UTC  

Also Vietnam is ex commie. Cuba effect