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2018-08-07 08:56:54 UTC

Well they have already checked off a lot of these things on this to-do list.... scary times...

2018-08-07 08:58:39 UTC

@Cal : Seeing that they redefine the word racism, it is better to just call it "blank hatred against all white people" (good luck for them redefining those words)

2018-08-07 09:03:17 UTC

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2018-08-07 09:04:08 UTC

@Tjoppie . Agree, but the remaining question is how good did they execute it.
It is easy to say you want to be gymnast, and you even rock up at the gymnastic competition, but watch them execute it. (and some important points in post 1994 plan is not yet executed, or just half there.

2018-08-07 09:05:19 UTC

Also, the plan does not have alternative, neither the analysis of dependencies of the items on each other. We all know a plan is more than just ticking of 7 items.

2018-08-07 09:09:12 UTC


2018-08-07 09:09:44 UTC

Item 1: Trying, busy with
Item 2: Only 80% is comrades that agree with them, and then between the 80% commrades, there are some internal problems. Whats the cause and effect of this on the rest of the plans.
Item 3: It say nothing about possible other forces building the counter strike.
Item 4: They trying, but that is not true, yet.
Item 5: Not true yet, they trying, can take a few years for them to phase out private medical and impliment their national plan.
Item 6: Not all of us is paying all our last cent to schooling.... and the after effect is that their own people just get dummer
Item 7: Lots of pension funds are held aboard. - They not there yet

2018-08-07 09:11:23 UTC

So, the 7 point plan execution gets a 2/10

2018-08-07 09:11:52 UTC

Like typical ANC, they have all these plans, but the execution is really shit.

2018-08-07 09:13:44 UTC

Yip, but maybe for them it is well executed... ๐Ÿ˜‚

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2018-08-07 10:35:48 UTC

@Tjoppie Ja indeed. For you own plan, just make sure you have a plan B and C aswell

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2018-08-07 11:04:13 UTC

As much as I despise social media I think it maybe could have saved us if we had the power to spread awareness during 90's as we do now.

2018-08-07 11:15:53 UTC

Shouldn't hate social media, it's an idea, just like capitalism... Just because there are people that abuse it for their own selfish gain, doesn't mean the idea itself is bad... Let's just use it as it should be used, honestly and fairly to the benefit of all, should still work fine to achieve a rate of success.

2018-08-07 11:18:22 UTC

Ideas aren't inherently corrupt, they just become corrupt over time, when subjective takes priority over and above the objective. I think that's a clear way to define it.

2018-08-07 11:42:55 UTC

Agreed. Should have maybe said the state of social media.

2018-08-07 11:56:11 UTC

Going to join in on the effort? @cยตrvy

2018-08-07 12:25:07 UTC

anyone else getting phone call spammed by the IRR today?

2018-08-07 12:39:40 UTC


2018-08-07 12:39:40 UTC

Ditsem! @Tjoppie, you just advanced to level 7!

2018-08-07 12:40:14 UTC


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2018-08-07 12:48:53 UTC

@Daniebees What is more shocking is the crowd... this guy seems to be still alive, but the crowd is just hanging casually chit-chatting and making a video.

2018-08-07 12:52:15 UTC

@Guss I think he was a goner

2018-08-07 12:52:26 UTC


2018-08-07 12:52:38 UTC

lol facebook het my al weer geban

2018-08-07 12:53:22 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ Wat het jy nou weer gedoen !

2018-08-07 12:54:15 UTC

@Guss Ek weet nie librals be crazy hulle report 'n ding vinnig

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2018-08-07 13:28:16 UTC

Lekker om die bos gelei, baie van julle.

2018-08-07 13:32:25 UTC

Lol isn't that based on fact though? Not just an opinion..

2018-08-07 13:32:36 UTC

๐Ÿ‘† Het al 'n paar argumente met hierdie vroumens gehad. It's futile trying to reason with commies I tell you.

2018-08-07 13:42:07 UTC

lol twitter suspended ron paul's account as well.

2018-08-07 13:47:41 UTC

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2018-08-07 13:47:42 UTC

2018-08-07 14:09:30 UTC

Don't you have to work to be considered a worker?

2018-08-07 14:44:07 UTC

How dare the employer be superior to the employee

2018-08-07 14:48:46 UTC

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop), ekt 'n nuwe emoji vir jou gemaak, watch

2018-08-07 14:49:42 UTC
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Awe gents

2018-08-07 15:21:47 UTC

hos ja

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2018-08-07 15:23:59 UTC

Hello @RaRi ! Hier is hy!


2018-08-07 15:24:53 UTC

Views on Max du Preez?

2018-08-07 15:26:19 UTC

@Justin Daines

Max du Preez:


2018-08-07 15:27:44 UTC

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2018-08-07 15:51:24 UTC

@Justin Daines You mean Marx Du Preez?

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2018-08-07 17:57:05 UTC

@HoppeanSnake_ZA What happened to the SA Union flag emoji?

2018-08-07 18:24:25 UTC
2018-08-07 18:24:36 UTC

@Malcolm the Seceder Well, it's considered hate symbol, so wouldnt be surprised if theres an offended intollerant liberal that reported it... I hate that I even have to jump to that conclusion as the most likely reason even in these times

2018-08-07 18:27:08 UTC

>so wouldnt be surprised if theres an offended intollerant liberal that reported it
in here?

2018-08-07 18:29:59 UTC

@Sheamus I think you're half right

2018-08-07 18:30:27 UTC

@Malcolm the Seceder lol well it is a 50/50 deal after all, either it is, or it isnt lol

2018-08-07 18:31:26 UTC

Just saying I wouldnt be shocked if that was the case

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2018-08-07 18:35:27 UTC

maybe the new flag is hate speech as well? <:hmm:468405359523135488>

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2018-08-07 18:40:19 UTC

Totsiens, **Dusty#9700**


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2018-08-07 18:42:47 UTC
2018-08-07 18:43:04 UTC

Howsit howsit mense

2018-08-07 18:43:04 UTC

Ditsem! @deavmi, you just advanced to level 5!

2018-08-07 18:43:31 UTC

That union flag is poes seksi

2018-08-07 18:44:15 UTC

The f*ck is my union flag. Not mine. Just claiming it.

2018-08-07 18:44:28 UTC

*opens mspaint*

2018-08-07 18:45:11 UTC

@deavmi ons chat in <#471436422616842241> as jy nie mic het nie

2018-08-07 19:59:33 UTC

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2018-08-07 20:01:16 UTC

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2018-08-07 20:08:03 UTC

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2018-08-07 20:21:08 UTC

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2018-08-07 20:59:48 UTC

@Sheamus what effort is that?

2018-08-07 21:02:54 UTC

Can that itunes shit be played without installing itunes?

2018-08-07 21:03:33 UTC

@cยตrvy more awareness and enlightenment i suppose is a good way to express it... Will possibly be helping with the red pill effort too.

2018-08-07 21:05:18 UTC

i see

2018-08-07 21:05:40 UTC

well i'm already a custodian of <#475032588814123030> :)

2018-08-07 21:05:48 UTC

what else do yo uhave in mind?

2018-08-07 21:06:40 UTC

more like a janitor, but eh..

2018-08-07 21:07:11 UTC

I'm looking for the PDF file of Kill The Boer Book.

2018-08-07 21:07:19 UTC


2018-08-07 21:07:22 UTC

me too

2018-08-07 21:16:02 UTC

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2018-08-07 23:11:20 UTC

that you, malcolm?

2018-08-07 23:12:43 UTC

ima take that test. Guss' test tells me I'm centrist...

2018-08-07 23:12:47 UTC


2018-08-07 23:12:55 UTC

Lol yeah that's me

2018-08-07 23:13:13 UTC

Bit disappointed with my results really. Bit too liberal

2018-08-07 23:15:05 UTC

Where's Guss' test? And who is that in ur avatar? I think someone else has that pic

2018-08-07 23:16:35 UTC

It's Hunter S. Thomson with Putin's face

2018-08-07 23:16:38 UTC

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2018-08-07 23:17:00 UTC

The other guy (lawer next to him) has Trump's dface in that pic.

2018-08-07 23:17:17 UTC


2018-08-07 23:18:19 UTC

But I don't know... these questions are too open-ended..

2018-08-07 23:19:35 UTC

When guss' one talks about South Africa values which South Africa is it referring. To???

2018-08-07 23:20:38 UTC

prob current, idk.

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2018-08-08 01:05:50 UTC

Same result


2018-08-08 02:57:54 UTC

I know everyone is sharing that "die afrikaners" book in the books section, but have you read it?

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2018-08-08 03:06:15 UTC

Hello there everyone.

2018-08-08 03:23:11 UTC

hi! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

2018-08-08 05:48:34 UTC

@Daniebees was /SAG/ shut down?

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2018-08-08 08:17:02 UTC

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2018-08-08 10:58:05 UTC

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2018-08-08 11:01:45 UTC

Did anyone notice how nice and shiny new most of those shacks are built by land invaders on that Stellenbosch farm?

2018-08-08 11:04:29 UTC

Not rusted and scrapped parts... Are you insinuating someone is paying for the brand parts and funding the land invasion? ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

2018-08-08 11:08:43 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚no that would be impossible

2018-08-08 11:08:48 UTC

Not here

2018-08-08 11:19:36 UTC

Lol you do know that making objective observations are as good as facts, and facts are racist... Lol but none the less, good observation, now we just need to figure out where they got it from and out of who's arse that money was pulled out of.

2018-08-08 11:21:32 UTC

See if there is anything there.

2018-08-08 11:36:04 UTC

@Sheamus That's the most racist thing I've EVER read. Shame on you. Racist.

2018-08-08 12:19:21 UTC

There is something real fishy going on here

2018-08-08 12:19:39 UTC

Specifically with the banks

2018-08-08 12:19:58 UTC


2018-08-08 12:20:57 UTC

Maria Ramos, wife of Trevor Manuel who is one of Ramaphosa's "fin-doctors"

2018-08-08 12:21:33 UTC

Along with former CEO of Standard bank, Jacko Maree

2018-08-08 12:23:07 UTC

Why are the banks who are potentially going to lose the most, so quiet about this?

2018-08-08 12:24:47 UTC

Have some guarantees been extended by the ANC? Like only expropriating properties whose bonds have been paid in full or close to it.

2018-08-08 12:52:54 UTC

Perhaps paper expropriation? They just transfer the land to the state, the property on the land stays yours, thus you carry the debt as per normal and then rent the land on which your property is? Only way I can see banks not losing.

2018-08-08 13:14:25 UTC

I'll burn down my property and take the cash from insurance if that is the case...

2018-08-08 13:14:38 UTC

@Piesangslaai You are still liable for your debt even after your property was expropriated. That is why the banks don't worry much,one way or the other you wil pay them.

2018-08-08 13:17:38 UTC

Hah, the banks will burn too

2018-08-08 13:17:53 UTC

The International Zionist show their colours

2018-08-08 13:18:29 UTC

BTW Barclay's is no more with absa? Then that msg of Ramos is old

2018-08-08 13:28:00 UTC


2018-08-08 14:53:30 UTC

ABSA does not want to answer it seems. They mysteriously just popped up in a twitter thread, even though they were't even included in the conversation.

2018-08-08 14:53:36 UTC


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2018-08-08 14:55:27 UTC

Link to twitter thread:

2018-08-08 15:12:50 UTC

Quite frankly I do not care how they structure it. The reality is that I entered an agreement with ABSA to pay the X amount over 20 years and then the property with everything on it becomes mine. Now half way through the term ABSA says the property will not be yours anymore after you have paid us the X amount as per contract. ABSA is breaching contract so I cannot and will not be forced to pay a bond for something that will not become mine eventually. I am quite happy for them to take the property back and give me my money back so both parties walk away.

2018-08-08 15:21:15 UTC


2018-08-08 15:21:15 UTC

Ditsem! @GRIM, you just advanced to level 2!

2018-08-08 15:23:32 UTC

I'm trying to figure out their motives and whether they are trying to cut deals with the ANC at our expense. People should know and boycott them if they are colluding in any way.

2018-08-08 15:23:52 UTC

@GRIM Looks good although a wee bit progressive for my liking. Need to work on that ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-08-08 15:36:06 UTC

Totsiens, **Frank#4748**


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2018-08-08 16:07:53 UTC

Hello, Dankie Chappie

2018-08-08 16:08:55 UTC

whats up Dusty \

2018-08-08 16:11:36 UTC

Noting much at The Fleeb. Just having a look and seeing what's happening on the opposite side of the scales ....

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2018-08-08 16:13:22 UTC

Why am I so socially progressive dammit

2018-08-08 16:13:46 UTC

Fascist! <:pepe3:469478301644357633>

2018-08-08 16:17:39 UTC

Totsiens, **Dusty#9700**


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2018-08-08 16:32:22 UTC

@Willem Petzer Yeah Willem what a soy boy!

2018-08-08 16:35:14 UTC

unfortunately we cant all be fascists

2018-08-08 16:36:24 UTC

We'll just have to make do with being Pinochet.

2018-08-08 17:02:08 UTC

Seems about right


2018-08-08 17:03:00 UTC

@Karooboer Pinko! ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿคฃ

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2018-08-08 17:03:56 UTC

Lefty lol

2018-08-08 17:06:54 UTC

Donโ€™t know how to answer that๐Ÿ˜‚, Nationalist, Market and tradition is spot on for me.

2018-08-08 17:07:29 UTC

Don't worry just pulling your leg ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-08-08 17:07:33 UTC

if Willem back from his honeymoon in Orania?

2018-08-08 17:08:08 UTC

so far everybody has been fascist except me and karoo ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-08 17:08:48 UTC

You're the moles! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

2018-08-08 17:09:10 UTC

thats what a fascist would say!

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2018-08-08 17:29:22 UTC

I do feel leftist amongst these Fascists ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-08-08 17:32:04 UTC

Don't worry we fascists are known for our tolerance ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-08-08 17:34:06 UTC

Of course

2018-08-08 17:40:30 UTC

@The Fleeb Where are you from if you don't mind my asking?

2018-08-08 17:44:45 UTC

@Malcolm the Seceder South African parents moved to London in 96 with me and now im older staying in JHB

2018-08-08 17:45:25 UTC

Ah just wondering because of the avatar. How long were you in London?

2018-08-08 17:46:39 UTC

its tommy robinson photoshopped into william wallace lol, i was in London a little over a decade, most of my young life.

2018-08-08 17:47:08 UTC

I see.

2018-08-08 17:47:42 UTC

Totsiens, **Under Cover#4864**


2018-08-08 17:47:54 UTC

i prefer it in SA generally, although its alot more of a powder keg now than when i first arrived

2018-08-08 17:48:21 UTC

Well I don't think you'd like it any better in London as it is now

2018-08-08 17:49:46 UTC

becoming a shithole city, even all of my family are now moving away from London. its quiet sad how the white population of SA has been dispesed across the world

2018-08-08 17:50:11 UTC

i have family EVERYWHERE, but less and less in SA

2018-08-08 18:04:32 UTC

i'm going down with this ship..

2018-08-08 18:05:10 UTC

going to principal's office with friend was better than going alone, but i guess now it's better alone.

2018-08-08 18:09:14 UTC

i used to think differently but people should get out if they can. they can come back when the government begs them to.

2018-08-08 18:12:56 UTC

Who is in Pretoria tonight and keen to join me and some friends for a drink?

2018-08-08 18:14:56 UTC

Everyone in SA have family or SA friends scattered all over the world. Especially Aus/NZ. We were going to move to Aus in 91' but my dad got a job promotion in a different city so we stayed and moved there. I'm glad we never left SA.

2018-08-08 18:21:29 UTC

A lot of my friends swore they'd never leave SA. But, some got kids and decided it would be better to raise their kids elsewhere.

I stayed in NZ for a while. Gotta say, it's pretty cool. Good lifestyle.

2018-08-08 18:22:17 UTC

@Daniebees Non-alcoholic I hope

2018-08-08 18:23:14 UTC

@Malcolm the Seceder bandewyn is like wyn to a boer

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2018-08-08 18:25:18 UTC

@Daniebees Non-alcoholic wyn I hope ๐Ÿ‘

2018-08-08 18:44:22 UTC

@cยตrvy I will be on the ship with you my friend. ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช

2018-08-08 19:15:02 UTC

i just found another spent .222 cartridge at my front door.
first one was about 5 months ago..
i don't even own a .222

2018-08-08 19:15:12 UTC

someone throwing doppies at me

2018-08-08 20:06:56 UTC

@Willem Petzer you are socially progressive because you want to braai.

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2018-08-08 20:08:00 UTC

Ditsem! @cยตrvy, you just advanced to level 14!

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2018-08-08 20:24:53 UTC

Eks braaipolar papa๐Ÿ˜‚ buts seriously, who picks lamb chops over boerewors?

2018-08-08 20:25:25 UTC

I want both

2018-08-08 20:25:59 UTC

I would do sex work for a boerewors roll๐Ÿ˜ถ

2018-08-08 20:33:34 UTC

as die kak gespat het moet jy kies tussen baber of vlakhaas.

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Ditsem! @SADMAN ๐Ÿ˜ญ, you just advanced to level 1!

2018-08-09 07:25:22 UTC

Oi take it to Shill yourself!

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2018-08-09 13:35:25 UTC

So what do you guys say that Orania is the 1st item on the Expropriation list ?

2018-08-09 13:36:27 UTC

I thought its idle land they were after? Isn't Orania already utilized?

2018-08-09 14:03:38 UTC

@Guss you stating fact or hypothetical?

2018-08-09 14:12:58 UTC

@Guss everything and I mean everything at Orania is well planned and thought out. I cannit believe that Orania does not have some sort of backup plan. And yes they are utilizing all their land. Then again it is like a trophy for JM to take the last Volkstaat and show his dumbass followers how awesome he is. All Im saying is I doubt those people will just let anybody take Orania.

2018-08-09 14:13:43 UTC

Poking a hornetts nest...

2018-08-09 14:14:37 UTC

@Penkop is this a fact that they are on the list or you guys just playing devils advocate?

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