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2018-08-07 17:29:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #general]  

2018-08-07 17:47:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth as n vlieg in jou kar teen die windscreen sit en jy ry 120kmph, hoe vinnig vlieg hy?

2018-08-07 17:53:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Albie?

2018-08-07 17:56:37 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Dan waai hy weg. Maar as die vlieg in die kar is en hy sit still dan vlieg hy mos nie?

2018-08-07 17:58:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

dalk moet ek dit beter vra.. As die kar met die vlieg verby jou kom dan is hy die spoed van die kar,ne? Maar as jy in die kar sit en na hom kyk dan sit hy stil, ne?

2018-08-07 18:03:47 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

wag ek moet eers jou lughawe storie gaan lees. gee my n oomblik

2018-08-07 18:06:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Okay okay so @Deejay from Earth jy se dat die aarde nie rotate nie want n vleigtuig kan nie in n mach 1.3 head wind op stuig nie. Se my gou.. daai vleig in jou kar wat teen 120kmph ry, kan die vlieg op stuig (ja die vensters is toe)

2018-08-07 18:13:57 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth okay jammer as ek miss verstaan het. Maar die voorbeeld van die vlieg bly. Voel die vlieg met sy sintuie dat hy 120kmph beweeg in n toe kar? Nou dink die vlieg was daar van n maggot op n vrot mango in die rear en hy het nog nooit iets anders beleef nie (soos jy op die aarde) hoe sal hy dit experiance?

2018-08-07 18:19:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

dit is reg. gesels later

2018-08-07 18:34:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #general]  

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468388839799390210/476458176141852686/slide23.png

2018-08-07 18:35:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #general]  

maybe the new flag is hate speech as well? <:hmm:468405359523135488>

2018-08-07 18:37:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Great!

2018-08-07 18:43:33 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Wel sien ek het gehoop jy beantwoord my scenario eers. Dit sou dit makliker gemaak het om na dit jou te verduidelik wat ek glo, daarin le die beginsel van wat ek glo. Maar jy moet dalk nie aanneem wat ek glo nie 😜

2018-08-07 18:48:56 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ja go for it? ek kom nou terug

2018-08-07 18:54:17 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth Well hoe meet jy dit as jy niks het om teen te meet nie. Soos die kar met die vlieg... die vlieg kan nie meet hoe vinnig hy gaan in die kar as hy nie uit kyk nie en n refrence kry buite die kar nie. Maar as die vlieg net sy spoed meet teen die binnekant van die kar dan staan hy stil.

2018-08-07 18:57:36 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek dog ons gesels oor ons sintuie?

2018-08-07 19:01:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Okay great. jy is in n kar en jy weet jy beweeg want jy kan uit kyk en voel die kar beweeg. As jy in die kar gebore is en teen n konstante spoed beweeg en jy kan nie uit kyk nie. Sal jy glo jy staan still of beweeg? Jy kan aanvaar dat daar n moontlikheid is dat jy wel beweeg al is daar niks fiesiese tekens dat jy wel doen nie?

2018-08-07 19:04:23 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek se nie jy beweeg nie, maar daar is n moontlikheid ne?

2018-08-07 19:22:10 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Kom ons stel dit so, as jy die konsep wat ek jou gegee het kan verstaan sal jy verstaan dat niemand die rotasie sal voel nie. Die ding van n object in motion is nie van toepassing in die scenario van hoe jy die rotasie voel nie.

2018-08-07 19:26:37 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

My plan was nooit om in wetenskap in te gaan nie. Ek wou net he jy moet n konsep verstaan en hoe dit van toepassing kan wees aangesien jy sintuie gesels het. As jy nie n moontlikheid kan visualise en question van albie kante af nie sal mens nooit met jou debate oor die onderwerp nie.

2018-08-07 19:40:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

as jy teen mach 1.3 in n kar ry teen n konstante spoed in n vacuum sal jy fine wees en dit nie regtig voel nie,ne? Maar wat sal gebeur as jy van daai spoed stop?

2018-08-07 19:41:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Alles in n vacuum natuurlik.

2018-08-07 19:42:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

as die aarde stop sal jy dit voel.

2018-08-07 19:46:48 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek luister.

2018-08-07 19:49:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

hoekoem is dit dan nie onderste bo of in n ander orientasie as daar nie gravitasie is nie?

2018-08-07 19:57:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek verstaan die concept mar die feit dat iets wat swaarder is onder is.. w=mg?

2018-08-07 20:01:46 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek dog dalk sal jy my convince om n flat earther te word

2018-08-07 20:05:00 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ek sal kyk

2018-08-07 20:10:08 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth okay dit lyk goed en alles. maar hoe weet ons die correction van die fish eye was nie over corrected nie en wel volgens die lens specifications gedoen?

2018-08-07 20:21:06 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/476484958161076250/Untitled.jpg

2018-08-07 20:21:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

camera angle

2018-08-07 20:22:21 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

hoe kan jy die twee vergelyk? Hoe kan jy se albei cameras is 90deg na die opervlak?

2018-08-07 20:27:57 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/476486678752526339/Untitled.jpg

2018-08-07 20:38:58 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek kan sien die aarde draai elke oggend wat ek sien hoe op kom die son oor die see op, elke aand wat ek die sterre sien still staan relatief tot die aarde wat beweeg. Elke dag wat die son se angle verander soos die tilted angel teenoor die son verander. Elke dag wat ek sien hoe hoe die weer systeme weerk die direction van weer stelsels in die suidlike vs noordlike halfrond.

2018-08-07 20:39:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek stem met daat lasste pic van jou.. maar soos ek se niemand hoe die camera op 90degrees nie... die punt van die photos is om die aarde af te neem nie reg nie?

2018-08-07 20:43:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

nee ek kan nie. Ek het nie die gereekskap nie. Kan jy enige van joune?

2018-08-07 20:44:47 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ahh nice.. baie goeie gesprek

2018-08-07 20:47:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

aangesien ons nou links share

2018-08-07 20:50:00 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

most of those proofs only work in the absence of gravity

2018-08-07 20:50:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

and absence of defraction of light

2018-08-07 20:54:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

okay ek will meer verstaan oor die density theory.

2018-08-07 20:55:26 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

As alles volgens density/boucancy organise. Hoekom is die see so diep op plekke? Is die dieper water meer dense?

2018-08-07 20:57:08 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek verstaan die beginsel. ek se theory dat dit gravity disprove

2018-08-07 20:57:53 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

fair

2018-08-07 20:58:52 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ok dankie. ek probeer jou kant verstaan. nie stry nie

2018-08-07 20:59:33 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

is die see 2km diep meer dense of dieselfde volgens wat jy verstaan?

2018-08-07 21:05:36 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Okay dan

2018-08-07 21:16:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek moet maar een laaste idea hier los om oor te dink vir ons. As ek werk op die density konsep wat se alles word arrange volgens density wat waarheid het, dan se ons dat die see irrelavent van diepte dieselfde density is (1027 kg/m3) wat waar is tot n mate. Hoekom increase die pressure dan as mens dieper gaan (met een atmosphere per approx elke 10m)? die density bly altyd dieselfde doen dit nie en as dit nie doen nie dan sou sekere voorwerpe net tot n seker diepte (density) kon sink en nie verder gaan nie in die selfde tiepe fluid. Maar alles wat meer dense is as water sink tot heel onder.

2018-08-07 21:19:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Hoe kan mens dit verduidelik? Gravity... density en gravity moet saam verstaan word. As n helium ballon vry gelaat word dan gaan hy op want hy #1 is less dense as die lug #2 die krag wat hom op trek na n less dense plek is meer as gravity.

2018-08-07 21:21:46 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

As iets in water val is dit dieseldfe konsep. Iets sink nie tot n sekere diepte nie, dit gaan al die pad af want #1 dit is meer dense as water plus #2 gravity trek dit af.

2018-08-07 21:23:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Pressure verander nie in n fluid nie oor die density van die fluid change nie (dan sou dit dalk in n ander state of matter wees, dink aan pressurised gasses wat liquids word, or liquids na solids) maar oor gravity. Hydrostatic pressure at any height below the water surface is calculated by P=hdg where h is the height below the open water surface, d is the density of water and g is the acceleration due to gravity

2018-08-08 04:59:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  
2018-08-08 04:59:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

dit is soos om water uit n klip te tap.

2018-08-08 05:02:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

jy seker jy is nie in die EFF debate span nie?

2018-08-08 05:04:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ek join net in

2018-08-08 05:05:22 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Oja maar ek is n GLobetard?

2018-08-08 05:05:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

globe retard?

2018-08-08 05:05:53 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

retard?

2018-08-08 05:06:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

sien jy is illogical

2018-08-08 06:40:52 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth jou persoonlike opinie en photos van die internet af maak ook geen verskil aan bewysbare feite nie

2018-08-08 06:47:46 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek het nie data om nou te kyk nie. Maar in beginsel stem ek saam

2018-08-08 09:42:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth ek kort meer info oor daai goed. Daai link se net dit is 'n lieg storie

2018-08-08 09:42:28 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Thanks

2018-08-08 09:43:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Die savage article help nie dit verduidelik nie

2018-08-08 09:44:30 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek sal nog lees. Dankie

2018-08-08 09:46:22 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth die article is ja. Maar hy verduidelik nie vir my die counter teen die nie "The pendulous vanes do not care what causes the misalignment which may be due to precession, harsh manouvers, extended periods of turning or the movement across the curvature of the Earth"

2018-08-08 09:48:28 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Okay sal maar dit moet kyk dan vanaand

2018-08-08 10:08:14 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Ek dink daai interview is cgi

2018-08-08 10:24:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Met down scaling na potato quality

2018-08-08 10:24:53 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

OK ek praat strooi. Maar is daar 'n beter source?

2018-08-08 11:41:18 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #videos]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468415663925624852/476716534170124289/VID-20180808-WA0022.mp4

2018-08-08 15:11:31 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

DMT?

2018-08-08 15:56:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

did you break through?

2018-08-08 15:59:44 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Sheamus Well... atleast you cant become a addict i guess. lol

2018-08-08 16:01:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth from what i understand there is a point after smoking that you need more to get you over the wall and feel the sense of leaving your body behind? From what I understand of it, its called a break through i think

2018-08-08 16:03:07 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Sounds awesome

2018-08-08 16:06:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Do you feel it changed you or your perception of the world? I have only experienced Acid which I feel it as close to something similar I can get here

2018-08-08 16:10:54 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Sheamus leaving your ego. Thats a break through?

2018-08-08 16:12:38 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth I am glad you could experience that. Hopefully one day I can do the same.

2018-08-08 16:14:28 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth more info please?

2018-08-08 16:27:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I will be back, I need to research this stuff some more!

2018-08-09 06:26:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/476999673152929792/20180809_082606.jpg

2018-08-09 06:27:22 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

more almal

2018-08-09 07:42:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Capture from 4:59 in the video

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477018832649584670/Untitled.jpg

2018-08-09 08:05:11 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I can follow that logic. But a cloud is the same thing as fog on the road and a cars headlights shining on/in it cant penetrate through it very far as it is water vapor and water droplets scatter light in random directions due to their shape and voids between particles which is the reason it interacts differently than light through pure water. So I dont agree fully.

2018-08-09 12:05:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

When you ask Hilter if the earth is flat

2018-08-09 12:10:01 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lol good one

2018-08-09 12:21:44 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Yeah those comments are funny. Its like moths to a flame, they cant help themselves.

2018-08-09 12:22:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I do not understand why a expedition will be documented by a governing body of sport? http://www.southpolestation.com/trivia/history/transglobe.html

2018-08-09 12:24:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

book a cruise or flight and go check it out https://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica/ships

2018-08-09 12:30:54 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

How far does the FE model say it would be?

2018-08-09 12:34:47 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

okay but there are actually races doing this with records like i had shown, there are more than one such race. some form Oz, some from Europe.

2018-08-09 12:36:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

a sail boat averges 6-8miles per hour, that speaks to the 16k miles form Albany around Antarctica and back taking 102 days. If would take a sail boat 300 plus days if the size is more than 60k miles

2018-08-09 12:37:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

the times woudl add up though

2018-08-09 12:37:46 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

would not

2018-08-09 12:38:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

3-4 years is still 3-4x how long it will take in todays yachts so it doesn't really add any merit

2018-08-09 12:40:16 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

69k miles @ 6mph = 11500hours, divided by 24hr a day = 479 days/ 365days =1.3 years

2018-08-09 12:40:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

that's conservatively

2018-08-09 12:41:08 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

vs 102 days on a GE

2018-08-09 12:41:30 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

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2018-08-09 12:47:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Yeah I am also glad the rotation of the earth and its axis as we move through the universe together with our solar system and adjacent systems is constant

2018-08-09 12:49:54 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

the dopper effect. Light is waves, sound is waves.. easy to grasp

2018-08-09 12:52:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

It explains how wave frequency changes depending on if a object moving to or away your viewing point.

2018-08-09 12:54:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

that extract of your is meaningless and assumes that everything contained in the earth atmosphere is not a closed system. Remember the fly in the car example?

2018-08-09 12:54:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Doppler effect proves that the stars and we are moving through the universe.

2018-08-09 12:56:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

If FLat Earthers believe in the doppler effect, then they should believe that the starts are moving based on the same logic

2018-08-09 13:02:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

That's what's interesting about your logic. You start from a proven base and when it doesn't match your agenda you turn to another direction. I have shown it in our discussion multiple times.

2018-08-09 13:03:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I have come to the conclusion you are in to deep and by accepting even the slightest possibility of anything else would be in too much of a conflict of your beliefs.

2018-08-09 13:04:37 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

If that is so why do you not accept that you can be right and wrong?

2018-08-09 13:08:48 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Why would we be conditioned to believe a round earth?

2018-08-09 13:19:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Gravity... Once you understand this, then everything else you understand will be questioned

2018-08-09 13:22:43 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lol

2018-08-09 13:23:56 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

its not the person I am showing you. I am showign you objects falling in a vacuum. Saying you dislike the person and therefor do not entertain it proves Shaemus' point

2018-08-09 13:24:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I will edit him out and his voice

2018-08-09 13:26:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

there no person I dont even know that you hate

2018-08-09 13:28:31 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Gravity... Gravity exists

2018-08-09 13:29:20 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Open your mind. I will sent you some DMT to restart the system

2018-08-09 13:31:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Two objects of different densities falling at the same acceleration.. gravity..

2018-08-09 13:33:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

why at the same acceleration if the densities are different? you said objects sort themselves by density

2018-08-09 13:34:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

no...

2018-08-09 13:38:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

a vacuum increases the effect of your density theory

2018-08-09 13:46:38 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I tried, but I cannot get over the fact that most of those only work in a world without gravity which I unfortunately cannot accept does not exist.

2018-08-09 13:47:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

In general, a scientific law is the description of an observed phenomenon. It doesn't explain why the phenomenon exists or what causes it. The explanation of a phenomenon is called a scientific theory. It is a misconception that theories turn into laws with enough research

2018-08-09 13:47:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

gravity does not rely on magnetism...

2018-08-09 13:47:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

just btw

2018-08-09 13:48:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

science

2018-08-09 13:49:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i want to get to the magnetic gravity story...

2018-08-09 13:51:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested, in accordance with the scientific method, using a predefined protocol of observation and experiment.[1][2] Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge

2018-08-09 13:52:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Its been tested, I have given you three videos with the same results (repeated).

2018-08-09 13:52:54 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

anyhow I wan to come back to the FE understanding that gravity is magnetic

2018-08-09 13:55:08 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you can go do the research about whom verified it or go to any high school in the world where they will show you experiments that do the same

2018-08-09 13:55:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lets get back to your magnetic gravity story... please

2018-08-09 13:58:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I ignore them like you ignore your misunderstanding of gravity

2018-08-09 13:58:57 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

share the link then

2018-08-09 13:59:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

not some extract from a theorist blog

2018-08-09 14:01:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

They assume that the experiments have been correctly interpreted, and never go and look them up for themselves. The experiments say nothing about a flat Earth, and the original experimenters would be shocked to think that their work was being used in that way.

2018-08-09 14:02:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

share the actual experiments and conclusions for us both to read

2018-08-09 14:03:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

okay your job is to find out what gravity is then, we will come back later and chat

2018-08-09 14:04:10 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

hint: gravity is not magnetism.

2018-08-09 14:05:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

we both have jobs to do, lets go do them

2018-08-09 14:26:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

True. @Deejay from Earth you got anything for me against Einsteins Theories that proves luminiferous aether exists? I am still reading, but missing this

2018-08-09 14:29:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Yeah okay but those other experiments you referenced doesn't prove luminiferous aether exists either

2018-08-09 14:29:42 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

They are only relevant is luminiferous aether is proven to exist

2018-08-09 14:30:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

that is not important, I need a model that proves it does exist please

2018-08-09 14:32:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

fine I will be back later then

2018-08-09 14:47:51 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth I will bring a boat and we do two experiments... https://youtu.be/QVa2UmgdTM4

2018-08-09 14:52:52 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ever heard of diffraction?

2018-08-09 14:53:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

uhm.. gravity

2018-08-09 14:55:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I would believe the test if they took a measure ment at diffrent intervals. you cannot say that the laser was setup level and they hit the board on the other side first try, so any change after level setup will make the results false

2018-08-09 14:55:42 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

plane - (of a bird or an airborne object) soar without moving the wings; glide.

2018-08-09 14:56:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

he plays with the laser, hear what he says at 17min

2018-08-09 14:57:07 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Bring a boat and measure at intervals like the experiment I shared

2018-08-09 14:57:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you want me to say sea level right?

2018-08-09 14:58:16 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Height above mean sea level. Height above mean sea level (AMSL) is the elevation (on the ground) or altitude (in the air) of an object, relative to the average sea level datum.

2018-08-09 14:58:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

mean is another word for average...

2018-08-09 15:03:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

gravity

2018-08-09 15:05:17 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

words have multiple meanings, you spoke about a airPLANE... i gave you the reference

2018-08-09 15:07:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

yeah cause you spoke about a AIRplane

2018-08-09 15:09:53 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

So I checked out your experiments...

2018-08-09 15:10:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

the aether ones

2018-08-09 15:14:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I cannot come to a conclusion as there is no proof that aether exists and as such the fact that those experiments do not have a concise conclusion does not tell me the earth is not moving. If anything it could possibly be used to prove that Luminiferous aether does not exist or is not required for light to move through out the universe. All these possibilities could be right or wrong including the possibility that the earth is not moving. So sorry it did not help me 😔

2018-08-09 15:15:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

what is your views on Gravity? anything new?

2018-08-09 15:28:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth but you understand that gravity has nothing to do with magnetism now?

2018-08-09 15:31:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

its different from magnetism as that works on the different states of molecules (+/-)

2018-08-09 15:32:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

here is a experiment you can do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_qreV5A4gA

2018-08-09 15:41:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

No worries. a ruler is hung from a ladder at its centre with two identical masses on either side to balance it. Two larger objects (masses) are placed evenly spaced from the masses on the ruler on opposite sides till it is not moving. Once a equilibrium is found one can move one of the large masses away and document the movement of the ruler. What is happening is that mass on the ruler is still closest to the large mass that did not move gets pulled towards it. The counter acting gravitational force on the opposite end was moved and weakened it such that the equilibrium is broken, this makes the ruler move.

2018-08-09 15:42:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I hope I explained it sufficiently

2018-08-09 15:43:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

dude.. the closer the object is to a mass the more the force. It is exponetial

2018-08-09 15:45:22 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

no. it does not explain or attempt to explain rotation of planets only orbiting of planets

2018-08-09 15:48:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I hope we can get past the definitions of theories and laws in science. I am looking into your last comment, give me a moment I cant remember all the laws etc

2018-08-09 15:50:33 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Its not a floppy tape, its a wood ruler. The only thing that is moved is the large mass at one point that never touched the ruler

2018-08-09 15:51:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

So "The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The total entropy can remain constant in ideal cases where the system is in a steady state (equilibrium), or is undergoing a reversible process."

2018-08-09 15:53:26 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

how does this relate to the solar system in your opinion?

2018-08-09 15:56:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you noted the lack of drag when objects fell in a vacuum right?

2018-08-09 16:04:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth I am in Kzn

2018-08-09 16:09:09 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i could not share all the sources as Discord has a text limit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477146328405901312/Gravitational_Force.txt

2018-08-09 16:10:09 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i will check on google earth for 3-6km line of sight

2018-08-09 16:17:36 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Jozini seem the most sensible

2018-08-09 16:20:40 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

because they can do it with a lader, ruler and a few masses

2018-08-09 16:21:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Telescope and Gyroscope i cannot answer

2018-08-09 16:24:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Cavendish, H. 'Experiments to determine the Density of the Earth', Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London, (part II) 88 p.469-526 (21 June 1798), reprinted in Cavendish 1798

2018-08-09 16:25:37 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

what peer review happened in 17th century lets be honest

2018-08-09 16:28:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I don't think scientists spend much time on items they learn in school and can repeat anytime they have a ladder, some string, ruler and weights. But I am speculating here

2018-08-09 16:31:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

no my model is based on the fact that masses are pulled to each other, this explains gravity and why solar objects orbit. Then gravity explains how water can be around a sphere

2018-08-09 16:32:18 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

proving the earth moves is irrelevant to me in proving the earth is a sphere

2018-08-09 16:33:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

If I can make a ball with a mass large enough i would show you. I need to break the earth gravitational force first to show you

2018-08-09 16:34:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Gravity does not require the earth to rotate... the experiment is no-rotating objects... get that, thanks

2018-08-09 16:46:38 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Nah dude I am done. For a man that started his conversations last night by saying you know the earth is flat and not moving based on your senses sure made me wonder about those senses when you said your use of drugs changed your way of thinking. Sure trust those senses hey... I proved my point a multitude of times already. Anyone that indulges you just needs to come read the last two days to save them a waste of time and effort. A man is but the product of his thoughts; what he thinks, he becomes. - Ghandi (I am sure you will like that one)

2018-08-09 17:44:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lol

2018-08-09 18:00:20 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #general]  

!Rank

2018-08-09 18:21:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

says the man linking scientists showing results are null to prove the earth is not moving based on a unproven hypothesis that Luminiferous aether exists even though they never stated that themselves

2018-08-09 18:24:06 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I gave you the answer last night.

2018-08-09 18:27:36 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477181171223232513/Capture.JPG

2018-08-09 18:30:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

to estimate the speed one considers the movement of the stars compared earth

2018-08-09 18:32:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i also showed you your scientific fact being a made up fallacy by FEs as the very scientists that did the research never came to the conclusion you preach

2018-08-09 18:34:00 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

It takes 1 day to complete one rotation, total angular displacement is 2Π rad.

Time interval Δt = 1 day
Angular displacement of the Earth ΔΘ = 2Π rad
average angular speed is the average rate of change of the angular displacement
Average angular speed Wav of Earth is 2Π rad / day

Lets convert days to seconds
1 day = 24 hours = 24 x 3600 = 86400 seconds
angular speed
angular speed
Earth angular speed
Earth angular speed is 7.27x10-5 rad /s

2018-08-09 18:36:36 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

if you cannot convert or understand it then I do not believe you should be reading any scientific literature. I guess therein lies your problem, you understand only what is explained to you by FE theorists

2018-08-09 18:44:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Pretty good

2018-08-09 18:47:46 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

looks pretty round to me

2018-08-09 18:48:48 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

they have good CGI hey?

2018-08-09 18:49:52 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

never as gullible as you are

2018-08-09 18:50:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

science... yeah

2018-08-09 18:50:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

based on hypothecial theories...

2018-08-09 18:53:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you cherry pick science that aligns to your FE theories in the face of observations to the contrary that speaks 100% the globe model.

2018-08-09 18:54:18 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Which one of your earth stand still scientist have a proven theory?

2018-08-09 18:54:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

cherry picking once again

2018-08-09 18:56:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lol I just find it enlightening to speak to beings like you

2018-08-09 18:57:57 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ahh fine.. memes it is then

2018-08-09 18:58:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477188963518382087/It-never-affects.jpg

2018-08-09 19:00:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

😝

2018-08-09 19:04:48 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477190532901109780/The-cosmic-ballet-goes-on.jpg

2018-08-09 19:05:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477190596667375638/Explains-a-lot.jpg

2018-08-09 19:19:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Yeah expecting that one

2018-08-09 19:19:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lol

2018-08-09 19:32:16 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477197441775566850/TU004_PPT.PDF

2018-08-09 19:46:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477200954119421972/rocket-engine-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:46:16 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477200966404538403/acceleration-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:46:17 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477200971840356353/gravity-balloon-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:46:18 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477200977049681920/free-fall-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:46:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477200977527832605/balance-experiment-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:52:07 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477202441192996864/sydney-santiago-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:52:10 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477202450705809418/sun-refraction-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:52:10 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477202453704474634/december-solstice-768x768.jpg

2018-08-09 19:52:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

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