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Can anyone tell me, what is a man?

Interesting

What is a man folks?

I can’t tell you. I asked the question to hear from everyone, not for everyone to hear from me.

The only reason I haven’t answered is because I don’t want people to piggy back on my answer. The question is simple. What is a man? Don’t be shy

Ok let me know when you figure it out lol.

That’s fine

🤷‍♂️ Confused, scared, unsure, self-conscious who knows. No one is going to get ridiculed or criticized for their answer.

Yessir

Question: what is a man?

Nice, csquare you took the words out of my mouth lol. I’ll add that men that love what is right have that natural integrity to guide them. That force that we call god/godliness.

Another snippet: a man has no problem recognizing the higher power that influences them. Naturally a man loves god.

Jordan Peterson is a interesting guy. I’ve read his books, very good stuff.

When I took my first IQ test I looked him up to see what his degrees of intelligence lecture meant

@csquare I don’t have any kids, once I marry my girlfriend we plan on popping them out like popcorn though. I found Jesse through his fallen state interview with the two black lives matter people. At first I thought he was just a funny guy that trolled the left but i analyzed his message and I can resonate with it. The thing I respect the most about Jesse is that e teaches and preaches for folks to focus on themselves; to know yourself to overcome your struggles and let go of anger via forgiveness.

@Anomie no

@4rthur i wouldn’t be able to show you or explain it so... 😬

@Anomie no, it’s a natural thing. It happens at a level that you aren’t aware of but is realized later on. And that’s according to me, not Jesse.

I don’t believe in the indoctrination of religion or forcing it upon people

People can’t be brought to god they have to come to him.

Most churches and religious organizations mess their congregation up by trying to “lead a horse to water who doesn’t want to drink.”

If they don’t then they will live missing that link and wholeness in their life. It’s a different experience with each person I’d say. And if people don’t want to come to god and are comfortable where they are, that’s fine too.

I won’t think less of them for it.

No, they can pretend to be a man but the holes and their hunger for wholeness is still there. That doesn’t mean I think less of a person for it, I know they’re doing the best they can. If they want help and I can help them then great. I’ll show them love regardless.

You must have not seen where I mentioned earlier that I don’t agree with how mainstream religions and religious organizations try to force their ideology on people. I said that it messes people up. I don’t just say these things randomly, this is all based on my experiences and struggles with religion, churches, god, etc. I remember how I was, I can see myself in other people as well, I know that a lot of young men like me hated the idea of religion and god and tried to oppose it and debate it at any chance I could. The best way that I can help people is how I helped myself. If you think I am the Bible thumping type you’re mistaken, I don’t even read the Bible.

Thanks though lol

Lol

I’m glad you said that

The thing is, a man doesn’t need help.

A man doesn’t seek out help to be a man. So why would I expect them to be a man? I made a comment earlier that a man accepts god at a spiritual level that most of us are unaware of happening* (at least for me, I wasn’t aware until after waking up that I had that connection to god) what I’m saying here is that I won’t even have to drill someone on accepting god in this manner, it will happen naturally.

Good question csquare I like it

I like to have them to make folks think and reflect

It’s engaging

Yes, fellowshipping is a good way to put it

Mmmm no.

Yup

If you are a male and have anger you are a beta.

I’ve never heard of Roy masters

And yes like csquare said. Boys are boys, men are men, girls are girls and women are women.

No one is saying you aren’t allowed to be angry. Be angry if you want to be lol. I don’t see the point of anger or any benefit from being angry. I have lost the desire to be in that state.

Hehe

I say that men who have anger are beta because it’s the truth. It’s just a funny way to phrase it.

In reality anyone to carries or holds onto anger is living under that illusion. If they’re comfortable with that so be it, but it will erode and cause problems down the line. I know that from experience.

Anger has NEVER helped me in life.

Whew this is hard to articulate but I will try

Having anger and not having anger is black and white, no grey area; from my experience in the situation that requires a quick response and would “normally” provoke anger or rage it came down to discerning reality. It’s very complex to put into words but in the heat of the moment I stay calm and in control, i let emotions go through me without holding onto it, the devil (the deceiver, the negative energy/chi/darkness/the lie/ etc.) tries to fill me with doubt or persuade me to ignore reality and associate and link memories, feelings, pride, whatever to convince me that the lie is reality. If I buy into that lie I would garner anger and it will lead me to ruin. If I doubt the doubt I can see reality clearly, I can understand the situation and the pressure/need for anger disappears. Even in the event that I need to defend myself physically I can act without anger.

Anger comes from the devil

The devil used women to get to the man

Women aren’t inherently evil, but are used by evil to pull others away from good. Like men, most women are unaware of what they do.

Good women are influenced by good men and are able to function perfectly

Bad women are or were influenced by bad and weak men. Women hate and resent a weak man and that destroys a woman... And the poison spreads.

Later csquare ✌️

It is possible to see the anger coming and cast it away. In time the initial feeling of anger won’t even exist. You will have peace

No problem man

Literally love the hell OUT of your wife

Maybe it’s the fear of being misunderstood and the other party spiraling into anger and attacking you? (Not just physical attacks)

Fear is another form of anger. Essentially fear is born from resentment or anger from the past.

Fear is of the same nature of anger* the deceiver wants to put any emotion he can inside you to steer you into destruction

Cheers 😁 @Anomie

Strength to me is conquering fear and overcoming anger. Being in control of yourself and knowing yourself

Well I wouldn’t say that’s fear necessarily csquare

Knowing the time and place to act is important

Jesse says there’s a time for everything and he’s right

You are right that you get paid to design not debate, and it’s the right thing to do so you can provide for you and the family

I live in Louisiana too lol

504

318 is Lafayette huh?

Ohhh Shreveport is closer to Texas I’m jelly

No, New Orleans I think 225 is baton

That’s cool that y’all are graphic designers. It seems like tough work. Especially with clients and customers being so particular

IKR uncommon in these parts

The community I live in is heavily conservative but it’s pretty liberal down here...

@Ermias is part of Jesse’s studio team maybe y’all could figure something out

Mmhmm. That’s true

When they were taking down the confederate monuments there was an uproar of libs going crazy..

Mmm possibly..

what a world indeed

linked it in random off topic

np

its simple

nope, Jesse and team were in spokane washington for the red pill expo

Jesse was a speaker apparently, I'm excited to see how it turned out

I can't wait for Jesse to have a mob of protesters to troll

its gonna be good

(((protesters)))