Do you?

Endurance athletes perform significantly better on keto or paleo diets

Interesting. Source?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/11/151117091234.htm

By "perform better" I mean you can exercise for much longer without refueling, so you go from sucking down sugar gel every hour to burning your own stored fat, which frees you up to focus on your sport.

This book is a more compete source https://www.amazon.com/Primal-Endurance-chronic-carbohydrate-dependency/dp/1939563089

https://youtu.be/96VZFklUM_Q

I am trying to gain weight and I find it extremely difficult to hit 3000 calories a day. I'm eating a lot of red meat and I feel full constantly. I do seem to have a lot more energy though so that's good.

@Der Seeteufel - SD My brother has been eating up to 5000 calories a day; I think he's gained at least 30 lbs so far. His method involves not actually enjoying food so much as forcing down the most calorie dense items possible, which are fats. Heavy cream or half&half, coconut oil, butter, avocados. If you can find a way to make whole sticks of butter palatable, you're on your way. (He's on the national server as @Sean- CA; if you DM him for some advice I'm sure he'd love to help.)

@Der Seeteufel - SD When I started I weighed 135 lbs and couldn't eat worth a damn, ended up buying Optimum Nutrition mass gainer powder in order to just drink my calories. I imagine everyone here is gonna give you grief about "noooo get it from whole foods" which granted, is preferable, but if you have too much trouble getting that many calories from normal food alone, the shakes are the way to go.

^ blend up that powder with heavy cream and gain weight in no time!

I've been doing paleo/keto-type nutrition for about seven years. I'm not as good with my greens as I should be, but I can eat as much as I want. It keeps me pretty slim, though I run a good amount. My digestive system loves it. If I go too strict, I tend to find I can't consume enough animal fats to keep me going and I get too thin.

Anyone have any probiotic recommendations? Considering trying one for a month or so to see if it helps with my IBS.

Kefir and skyr.

@Deleted User

Kraut

Thank you!

Filmjölk as well

What are some good resources to help track how many calories I eat every day?

I use MyFitnessPal

Is it free?

Yes

Just started taking creatine along with getting back in the gym. Any personal stories on its efficacy?

i took it for awhile, kind of a hassle for me

didn't notice too much of anything

maybe it helped idk

it was creatine monohydrate in powder form

shitty flavor too 🤢

Creatine works

One of the only scientifically proven supplements other than vitamin D

i see it like this, if it worked well, itd be banned

though i have seen the science of it, it's still not THAT great

Creatine is great, noticable difference in strength if you are supplementing it correctly.

If you aren’t noticing after 6 weeks stop and see if there’s a drop off. If nothing changes up dose to 10g monohydrate

If nothing after 10g then you’re a non responder sadly

Does anyone here find Bcaa's to be effective?

For intraworkout I notice faster recovery from sets if I'm sipping some bcaas

But you can get the same benefit from sipping a protein shake during your workout

Anyone have experience with the Kato Diet in here?

I have dropped 16 lbs over the last 8 weeks using something close to it (high fats, low carbs, med prot) but I was just winging it. I cranked out numbers last night and will be regimented in over the next three weeks.

@Deleted User I did keto for a few months, but for me it wasn't a super sustainable thing to do. I know a number of guys who have had great results from it, and it works great for cutting fat and water weight from what I've seen.

I may be totally wrong, but figured I'd contribute.

No, thank you. Im doing it for 4 weeks and alternate a fast in there. Just doing it to drop another 10 lbs. Im down 18 right now and want to finish strong.
I will transition out when I reach my goal weight. Just wanted some first hand experience if I could get it.

I've been looking to do some intermittent fasting. The data I've seen on HGH boosting from fasting has gained my attention recently, and I had a conversation with a doctor who studies IF as a means to treat numerous chronic conditions.

Also met a neurological chiropractor who had some incredible patient outcomes on utilizing ultrasonic vibrations to treat neuro conditions both physical and mental.

I met some patients who came with him, and their testimony was austonding.

As someone who works in memory care and assisted living I was floored with his results, and his work on technologically induced meditative states was equally fascinating.

Ive done it before. It essentially a detox

You do feel good, you get a boost about 30hrs into the fast.

@JC17-OR have you read about the neurological benefits of healthy fats?

A little bit of the research. Unfortunately I'm not in a research position so most of my research is independent, and goes without much attention.

People apparently don't consult CNAs for resident nutrition, despite it being my job to analyse patients and provide insight into the care planm

Plan*

From what I've seen however, it furthers my point that a proactive system of medicine and self-care is absolutely necessary.

Diabetes, Alzheimer's, cancer, and pretty much every other chronic illness is compounded hand over fist by poor diets and exercise.

Most residents in care homes are underfed, and underhydrated. I've had three residents in my homes have to go have limbs amputated due to infection. Infections which could have been slowed or even prevented with a decent diet.

It's really important that everyone in IE take their physical health seriously. There's the optics portion obvs., but being able to resist things like Alzheimer's, dementia, general immobility will make the difference between bankrupting your family due to medical costs, or being able to play with your grandkids well into your 80s.

The brain needs fats and we've been told to avoid them. We've replaced fats with sugar and high fructose corn syrup which is terrible for brain tissue.

This girl, as well as many others, has allegedly changed her eye color from brown to green/hazel through her diet. Some might call this pseudoscience, but I personally believe that adequate nutrition is necessary for genes to be fully expressed...I've noticed significant changes in the color, quality and vibrancy of my hair, skin and eyes when I consistently eat wholesome, natural foods. The conventional American diet of fast-food/junk-food/processed food is repressing our European genes from being fully manifested, turning us into dull, ugly versions of our ancestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPU4fCfyzc

If my eyes are already blue and I start eating like trash will they turn brown

No

Brb eating raw diet...

Kristina is an interesting lady, I like her. She's friends with too many coloured people though

@BigBadSaxon - ID shes a latina/Lebanese no?

Yep. She's not a European but her dietary advice is sound

My own eye color is weird. The outer rim of my eyes is blue, the majority of it is green, and the inner rim is brown.

I'd guess she has some European in her, but she's obviously something other than White

@peytonT There are plenty of white people who do eat trash but also have blue and green eyes. Yours might not turn brown, but it's likely that they would become dull-looking and much less vibrant.

@BigBadSaxon - ID I feel the same way about someone like Elliot Hulse, who is mixed-race but gives incredible advice on fitness and well-being. Folks like Mark Sisson and Jack Lalanne, however, are great White fitness gurus.

I will try this when Ive met my keto goals.

Im another 12 lbs away.

They're good guys, but they're not OUR guys.

Jack Lalanne was an animal.

Yeah...he kept things simple and effective too

> Change the routine every 45 days
> Eat healthy.
> Stronger on his death bed than most millenials.

Stud man. Had that V cut into 80s. Lol

Impossible to change eye color

@Robtheroman na man sounds plausible.

Im eating spinach right now

Hmm, i didn't know iridology was a thing, now I'm fascinated

moreso on the implications of a health signifier

not too sure if my eyes will turn blue anytime soon 😅

> eating spinach and drinking tea

Give me hazel *at least*

I don't think it works like that, the field talks about only two true eye colors, blue and brown

any sort of hazel or green is simply blue covered with lymph or such

the healthier you are the more clear your eyes are

Im kidding

Best post workout meal 👌🏻

Cod?

nice purse

Haha

@BryceB-ND Whiting, actually. And it's a SATCHEL, JUST FYI

😋

Nice dog

doggo 🙂

🥛

C A U L I F L O W E R

Eat cauliflower every week.

Blocks estrogen

And its delish

Do you think tempeh is an acceptable form of soy, since it's fermented?

https://youtu.be/cSuvan7bPds

garlic, eh?

lol what a guy

I need to go to the grocery store 👀

Why haven't I subbed this guy yet

this is quality stuff

had some laying around the house already

it burns

@Aleis⊕ccidentalis I was confused by that. I thought tempeh didn't have the estrogen problem, but it does. https://www.livestrong.com/article/547762-tempeh-estrogen/ Quote: "...tempeh is fermented, which allows easier digestion of its protein and reduces the harmful affect of its phytic acid. Like all soy products, tempeh contains plant hormones known as phytoestrogens, specifically called isoflavones." So, if you are worried about estrogen, tempeh is not the answer. Whether or not the soy-estrogen question is something to worry about is a different question.

@Algrin "Bailey" Bagley - PA Wow, thanks for the info. I knew fermentation was supposed to solve the issue of phytic acid, but thought it would also reduce the presence of estrogen. And yea, the soy-estrogen question is still up for debate...as far as I know nothing is proven. But I'd still like to keep my intake of soy to a minimum. According to another user on this server, cauliflower is an effective estrogen blocker...

Egg pill

Nice

Even though I normally only cook 2 at a time

Makes it easier to flip

6 over easy

Is that the same as fried? I'm always confused on that.

IDK but I cook only the whites. Its best over rice or if you have toast to soak up the yolk.

Get chickens.

Have your own eggs.

I plan to once I buy my own land.

Theyre awesome, rich, and good for bardering

Chickens, goats, maybe a cow or sheep

Youd be surprised how far a dozen eggs and some veggies from your garden will go

Id like to raise a couple pigs for slaughter

I get farm eggs from a local

Atta boy

Most of the ones I get are local sourced free range.

I grow kale, brussel sprouts, tomatoes, onions and peppers

Green beans

Can em and make my own sauce.

Zuchinni for breads.

Tried garlic with little luck

Cuccs for pickels. So fun and fulfilling

If only more people would grow their own food

Im tellin' ya

I'm bringing sweet potatoes to the Dash, @Deleted User

@Suomi Stronk ever had em air fried into French fries or tots?

Haven't, no

Honestly I just bake them up and eat then by hand sometimes lol

I would like to grow my own food but know literally nothing. What is a good starting resource

old people

They know

Lol

Youtube man. Everything you need to know & motivate you is on there

And a farmers almanac for the year

gotcha

https://youtu.be/-qC4JFu-Oyw
Watch "How To Build The Self Watering Rain Gutter Grow System! (101)" on YouTube

I made a bucket garden after knowing nothing using the info from Larry Hall's channel @Pat-MA

Beautiful!

https://www.healthline.com/health/aspartame-side-effects#side-effects

https://youtu.be/b4CBy0uVqRc

https://youtu.be/JW3fwF-x6to

@MaryJuneVoss - SC Saw your inquiry about keto diet on the Skills & Academics server. Some folks here have utilized it. I have personally been doing a paleo/keto lifestyle for about seven years.

Can someone here redline me on protein powder?

I know it's just food

But I definitely don't get enough protein from school food

So I need to know which brands of protein powder don't suck

Preferably available on Amazon

Honestly I use GNC's 100% Advanced Whey. Like 48g of protein in two scoops with only a handful of carbs and fats. Plus a good supporting Amino profile. 72 servings door $60.

I heard that whey sucks

Not really. Casein is kind of a meme imo

Is there any particular criteria to decide based on?

How can I tell which brands are "good"?

Is all protein just protein, or does it make a difference?

@Suomi Stronk

Not necessarily. Make sure you're getting an isolate, as there's really no reason to pay extra to get extra shit that possiblly may not even digest correctly. I like to say 20-30g of protein per scoop is a pretty safe bet.

Optimum Nutrition has some pretty good protein as well

Thanks

Any whole foods fans here?

I do like some of the products they carry. We had a great Whole Foods in Hawaii with a large outdoor patio for food and their full-service bar. Much of the shitlib clientle on the other hand...

@Pat-MA I do as well love overpaying for groceries

@Pat-MA yes sir. And FreshThyme.

I just had a pretty intense lifting session

Should I have extra protein?

Or is there only a certain amount I can take in at a time?

Get the amount to fulfill your daily requirements, and if you want to eat more go for it. There's probably no right or wrong answer, some sources say that your body only absorbs x amount of protein per meal, other sources say that's bs. (Unless you're restricting caloric intake)

What you could have more of after a really strenous workout is more carbs to replenish your glycogen levels. >inb4 keto posters

Technically too much protein can fuck up PH balance or something along those lines. Or at least bad for your liver/kidneys. That's why I'm not a fan of Keto as, at least what a lot of people tend to do, eat a lot of fucking protein. Too tired to remember, why the hell am I still even up lol?

You're awake to answer questions

Strict Keto is supposed to be moderate protein, high fat.

Too high protein >> Glucogenesis or w.e > kicked out of keto

Should I be taking creatine?

Or anything else, for that matter?

If you take creatine, get some milk thistle to help flush the kidneys

Creatine works, not sure what it does to keto.

just adding, don't overcomplicate it with all the supplements and stuff, effective training and good sleep is 100% better than every possible supplement

> good sleep

lol that's gonna be a problem

neeeeeerd

I tried to get sleep last night until these Mexicans started yelling and doing construction 40 feet from where I sleep at 7 AM when I wake up at 10 to do second shift at work.

@Jacob I'm just now realising (after my doctor's instruction) that good sleep will do worlds of good in nutrition and strength.

Gonna go on keto for a while to shred some bodyfat for summertime. Is muscle milk's 100 calorie protein powder good for keto?

no sugar, 4g net carbs

@Gaius Mucius Scaevola ump worked for me

Just make sure youre getting fiber cause the movements become a bit difficult if you dont. Lol.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2017/05/22/beans-toxic-lectin-rich-foods.aspx

I was introduced to this idea today, that lectins are a primary cause of our health problems today.

Anyone else heard of this, or is this some new 'fad of the week' diet?

@here

👆🏻

Every diet is a fad diet

You've got complex problems?

*I've got the one easy, simple solution to everything*

Mercola is known for advocating BS alt "medicine"

Scamming people out of money with fake products

and being an anti-vaxxer

Steer clear basically

Count your calories. Learn your hormones. Know thy self.

The only exception is esoteric onionism

counting calories is too much effort

Intermittent fasting.

@StrawberryArmada what about anti-vaxxing?

@Suomi Stronk I was under the impression that creatine was the only supplement that does anything and all other others were scams, however, I've recently been told that niacin does something. Can you "redpill me on that, goy"?

@Jacob Can you get in voice?

sure

Sleep is the only drug worth taking

>tfw Jacob is slowly becoming retarded

>becoming

😢

https://youtu.be/SfdTsQzI3yU

where my fellow ketogenic bros at?

Did it for a week and lost a pound a day, but was exhausted

once you get past the adjustment period you feel great

you gotta make sure you drink enough water and get your electrolytes early on

i drink tons of powerade zero when i'm first starting out

>Keto

>limiting the things you eat

🤰

Going on keto again to drop some body fat. I’m doing more cardio these days (mma) so hopefully I don’t die.

Can't have that now, dying is bad.

@Reinhard Wolff I don't think keto will hurt your cardio

Well, you can't perform as well without glycogen. But we'll see.

Doing cardio without carbs has been awful in the past.

https://youtu.be/VyNgvMYb7iQ

I did some mma on Friday after having maybe 25g of carbs all day. I was pretty tired, but I think that was mostly due to not having done cardio for a week while on vacation.

@Reinhard Wolff I read a study recently showing that even when carbs are ingested before a workout, only about a third of them are actually used. I always felt more energetic on keto once I got used to it

Haha

@Reinhard Wolff the toughest part about keto is the initial adjustment period, once you're passed that cardio becomes about the same as when you're eating carbs

Been doing Keto since the end of Lent. Have lost about 40lbs. Feel better in every way.

That is great @L1011TriStar

Wow, good for you Vasily. That's tremendous. Feelin a lot better?

Yeah, leaner, more energy, sleeping better, don’t have cravings for food, feel more alert. Moving into a carnivore diet though. A lot of the Keto hack type recipes don’t appeal to me as much as they did in the beginning. Now I eat about once a day and eat cow, fish, or lamb parts and I feel great. Don’t really eat any dairy, nuts, or veggies anymore like I did in the beginning. Used to have a lot of Keto pancakes with peanut butter but now I am not satisfied by that food.

I am going to France next week so I will have to find a way to stick with meat and cheese I suppose. My carb cravings have long since passed, but I don’t want to get tempted by baguettes croissants and whatever else they eat in Muslim countries and stuff.

Happy for you! You set a good example

And lol @ the last bit there, yeah watch out for those Muslim country's good food

My lifestyle change has made me want to start a cattle ranch and be a rancher. Might want to WWOOF again this summer but for a local cattle rancher and see if it right for me.

@L1011TriStar I know a few ranchers. What kind of experience do you have?

None with ranching; I woofed for a season on an organic farm but it was produce, chickens, and bees. I also woofed at a permaculture in Idaho. But these were full time bits, I just want to go to a local cattle ranch and help out and see if it is for me.