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Just got it
Iโve been out of pocket lately, do we have a PDF for Why We Fight in here somewhere?
Anyone not able to obtain a copy of Why We Fight, please message me and we'll get you taken care of.
who here is interested in writing/creative or journalism or etc?
myself i've been a scribbler for years but haven't gotten anything all that serious done, a few poems, 150 pages or so of a novel that i'm stuck on, and I'm trying to start writing more political stuff/propaganda (shit, i practically have written a book on Twitter about anti-Semitism)
@Pavel Cristoviฤ are you interested in fiction or non-fiction?
@this_that5553 both, really
@this_that5553 et al --
if anyone is interested in reading a rough draft of a short story I just wrote, it is at https://cristovic.me/NotToBeSoYoung.pdf
@Pavel Cristoviฤ great read
Test
Glad it's working!
@Praetorian @BigBadSaxon - ID @Anthony Sealy - MO youre all set.
Why We Fight by William Bennett, right?
Guillaume Faye @Praetorian
@Deleted User & @Envian you guys are all set.
@Marseille Thank you.
Cool thanks
I'm trying to read more books and learn more about the history of WN movements in the US. The history of things like the Klan, National Alliance, and other related movements.
Anybody have anything to recommend?
@Gaius Mucius Scaevola this time the world, white identity, if we do nothing, why we fight, culture of critique, rules for radicals
Mein Kampf, Hitler's Revolution
An authentic history of the ku klux klan.
There's a lot of old movement drama in there but there's a lot of good info as well. That's probably the best history of the movement you'll find because it was written by someone in the movement (probably Harold Covington but he has denied it). There's a lot of books out there that were written by people that are biased against white nationalism too.
Help me sneak in some books that promote our views
Siege
good idea, thanks
Thomas Sowell, The Quest for Cosmic Justice @Jacob
@Gaius Mucius Scaevola A good source on the late Dr. William Pierce & the National Alliance is Fame of a Dead Man's Deeds by Robert Griffin. You should be able to find it in pdf form in the /pol/ reading list packet that is traveling around.
Is Robert Griffin the guy who wrote The Creature From Jekyll Island?
@Deleted User Different guy. Robert Griffin is a professor from a Vermont college who decided to investigate the racial feelings of working class whites. He also wrote an excellent books called One Sheaf, One Vine which is the only book to my knowledge which discusses the racial feelings of everyday white people.
@Deleted User I've actually got the audiobook of that
I was gonna read it once I finished reading Hunter
If we've already read Why We Fight do we've to reread it? I'm in the middle of another book
Just contribute if something jumps out at you. Im reading two books at the moment myself. @StrawberryArmada
You're all set, @Deleted User
Was it ever determined by leadership if we are able to post books critical of authoritarianism as well as democracy?
So long as they don't promote violence and aren't in violation of IE's national server rules.
@CarletonJ Activism fireside isnโt until Thursday. Coordinators have a chat this evening at 9 EST this evening however.
@Conway - OK thanks for that haha. We had a miscommunication.
What time would work best for everyone? Anywhere between 8-10 will be fine for me.
@everyone
Thumbs up for:
8 EST
10 EST
Wait, what happened to 9?
Coordinators chat
I was just voting for that one haha
Ooh. No worries
10
@Deleted User Vote with the emoji, you animal
Damn i cant make it tonight guys. Have a surprisingly busy night. Sorry guys ill chip in inthe comments
@Helbrecht - WA it's already concluded. We'll have another one next Sunday.
Have we decided to what chapter are we reading up to by next sunday?
@SamanthaM, you're all set.
Thank you!
@HernanCortes-CA#2345 ๐ช๐ธโฅ๏ธ
@Wotan Klan-GA, @HernanCortes, and @whitenessSC you have all been verified. Welcome to ILC!
thank you fam
Be sure to check out our Book Of The Month and participate in our weekly discussions!
@Jacob so what about my manga collection?
@FlyingDutchmann you're all set
@Mark Vandal If it's not degenerate, I won't stop you
@Jacob you uncultured swine
I don't read manga btw. I'm not that degenerate
@SamanthaM ๐ช๐ธโค๏ธ indeed
@Phil - OH You're all set. Feel free to go through the backlogs, there's a wealth of information here already. We're currently reading Guillame Faye's Why We Fight if you would like to participate in weekly discussions
Thumbs down for... ?
What
You have "thumbs up" for both, man.
How would you tell them apart?
๐ for 20:00
Thumbs down for 22:00
Yeah, thumbs up one or the other
Ah I see.
Could've been more clear
Makes sense now that there's a vote below each one.
By itself I was thinking it was one post and both would show up below it.
8 p.m. EST conflicts with the bi-weekly pagan voice chat. Deconflicting might be better for attendance.
Unfortunately, there are a few different chats going on simultaneously because there are only a few peak times where you can expect people to be free for something like this
@everyone let's retry this. Book chat at the following times. Thumbs up for:
7 est
8 est
9 est
10 est
11 est
@StrawberryArmada is that the only one you can make?
No
I'm just messing
Thank God, bro
12pm EST, i.e right meow
I have a ton of content to discuss tonight. I don't think an hour will be enough. I'm thinking we will need to go after all other voice chats.
@CarletonJ if we start at 7, that gives an hour to go until the Pagan one. If we wait until the coordinator chat is done, then it will be close to midnight for the East coast before we finish
Oh man.
Might moving the discussion to another day be better?
Coordinator chat usually takes around an hour, so 10 EST until 12
I just don't think we could fit it all into one hour
I would be fine with Monday or Tuesday
Same. I have both days off.
Maybe we should take another vote haha
Wew
@everyone who would be alright with moving the voice chat to a weekday between the hours 6pm EST and 8pm EST? Thumbs up for:
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday is the National fireside and Thursday is the activism fireside
Monday nights are best for me
I could do it tonight, but would have to leave again at 9 EST
I like Monday
@John O - @CarletonJ So to be clear, is tonight's discussion being moved to tomorrow?
Looks like it
@Deleted User you can't make it in Monday, or you just prefer Tuesday?
I have an event with Tom Tancredo at 6pm Mountain time. But if that works for everyone, I can catch the first part of it.
@Deleted User Sorry to put you on the spot, but yeah, looks like that's how it's going to go
All good with me @John O - ! Letโs do it!
That's the spirit.
Alright, looks like Monday. Thumbs up for :
6pm EST
7pm EST
8pm EST
9pm EST
@everyone
I am having trouble getting discord on my phone, any suggestions?
what is wrong?
It gives me a message saying lock out.
Do I have to take my password off the phone first.
reinstall it
OK I'll try again tomorrow. I will write down what happens. Thanks.
Good night all.
i hhope it works i had to make a new password
@Lanark-MI you're all set. Join us tonight at 9p EST for our discussion on Why We Fight.
thanks!
I get tired of political stuff. How is this?
@The Eternal Anglo You're all set
Thank you my dude @Jacob
@The Morrรญgan You're all set. Welcome to ILC!
@CarletonJ Thank you, kind sir.
@ajman Welcome to the server, please go through the back logs, there are tons of great books here
Thanks!
Don Quixote is
Funny
And quite sad
@Alerio @Daniel Turch @Deleted User You guys have all been verified. Welcome to ILC. If you have any questions, feel free to message me or one of our mods.
What book are we on?
Why We Fight
Where are we on it and when do we meet?
I read why we fight awhile back
@Deleted User feel free to join our discussion. I believe we are moving our discussion days to Monday, but we'll confirm that this weekend.
Sounds good
@Daniel Turch We'll be up to "Modernity" Sunday or Monday
Okay I'll try to catch up
@ANACHR0N1SM you're all set! Welcome to ILC.
We are allowed to post non-copyrighted PDF's and text links correct?
That is correct. So long as it's not copyrighted, you can post.
I'm going to dump every Greek and Roman text ever
You have been warned
If you were ever interesting in learning Latin or Greek, hereโs a bunch of resources
All public domain
If anyone wants help with Latin I can assist as well
@StrawberryArmada Iโm a student of history but unfortunately have not had the luxury of going to a school with a good classics program. For simple biographies on Alexander the Great and Julius Caesar, what books would you recommend? Iโve been scared to buy one and it end up being revised by modern (((academia)))
Hmm
Only works on Caesar I've read were actually his own but
Plutarch
Wrote a biography of Alexander
Naturally it isn't (((modified))) since its two thousand years old
Of course the biographers of Rome didn't have the archeological resources we do, but they lived closer to the time of Alexander
Plutarch also wrote a biography on Caesar
Which is excellent because he lived right after Caesar
You can find and read both of these for free probably
So you won't lose any money if you don't like them
Don't worry about classics degrees. I didn't even finish my tbh. If it were up to me all young gentlemen would receive a classical education as they did for the past few hundred years
If I find copies tomorrow I'll put them in history
@StrawberryArmada Thanks for the info. Iโve become more of a modern Europeanist. Currently starting a 30-50 page essay on Pan-European nationalism
I would recommend Mosley but
You clearly already know him well
Same
I just started Hwite Identity and all I hear is Jaredโs voice in my head
@DeusVolk
Both of these are absolute gems!
https://youtu.be/9KEPjcYqnGU
https://youtu.be/9Copi862sYM
Yes.
I had trouble pushing through the political dictionary parts though. Something about the endless definitions drains you as you push through. I actually think itโs a big flaw.
Lol loved both videos!!!๐คฃ๐๐ค
@SamanthaM I thoroughly enjoyed those.
I feel like this server doesn't have high enough traffic to justify the massive number of channels. It's kind of daunting. We could probably just have the Book of the Month club and like Fiction and Non-Fiction discussion and that's it tbh
i think a lot of the channels are just there to give book recs by category - not necessarily to have discussions
Yeah, the purpose of the multi channels is to categorize book recommendations.
@this_that5553 The category specific channels are supposed to be slow. They should be easy to scroll through. The idea is to *not* have thousands of messages to go through when you're just looking for a book recommendation.
Whatโs up with these?
Sorry, I just never know what are the channels that I should generally care about
The "book of the month" channel is redundant, fair enough
As for the other ones, just click on them and find out
@this_that5553 IE Reading List is a working progress. Book of the Month is for announcing the book of the month and any important information that might go with that. Resources are self defined. General is for voice chat. Discussion BOTM is for our discussions that happen weekly. General is general chat. Goodreads is a website that connects other readers and their literature. TIR stands for Today I Read. Post anything new you've read or learned. Vote BOTM is for voting in the book of the month.
To better organize this, I just might make a category for BOTM.
Iโd appreciate the new category @CarletonJ that way if youโre participating you know what is relevant immediately
Sure. Thanks for the suggestion.
@Jacob not trying to be a bitch. Just want to give my feedback in case others thought the same
No it's fine
I'll have to wait until I'm at my office. I cannot move channels or categories from mobile.
Would you well-read lads say that a book a week is a good goal?
Definitely
I feel like my cognitive abilities are deteriorating as time goes on. Would reading weekly help with this?
It takes me a couple weeks usually to read anything
Technically, 30 minutes of reading a day should be your bare minimum no matter what speed. I'd shoot for an hour and gauge your reading quota based on that. Better to be a slow reader who thoroughly digests what he reads than a reader who has something to prove by reading the entire library of congress and not retaining anything.
@DavidOrlando#5630 I'll get you and Olivia set up when I get home
@DavidOrlando#5630
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