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bye fren @ChippedStones
@Papa Pizzagate assessment of what
spencer and why people that still support him don't get it
Why people dislike RS, obviously...
K
You know, the thing we are talking about...
operation homefront is waiting for the spencer adherents
@Sam Southern - TN Any day now ๐
What are the details tho
Fellas, let me mention one thing
here's why opH and wiggernationalism will win the day even though they've done nothing besides one shitty banner drop and ruin half their members lives
Phalanx dead, Homeland dead, NPI barely functioning
The Jews have fights like this all the time. They bitterly disagree. They donโt let those disagreements overshadow their tribal bond as Jews
NPI released its first bit in a while a couple days ago. Basically it predicted losing the House. So Richard accurate Black Pill.
All of us having this debate is normal and healthy. Letโs not let our disagreements lead us to forget weโre all still white men and weโre ultimately fighting for the same goal against the same enemies
I just find defeatism and fatal romantic dread about our โreplacementโ not productive
*AIPAC is gay*
tulsi gabbard would definitely have the best shot against trump out of any of the current democratic candidates
@ophiuchus too far
rumor Spencer begged for her hand when she was in the military but she said she didnt date nerds and married a right wing hindu instead
@Kingfish and I find endless pursuit of national politics to be quite lame myself
We donโt want IE to turn into r/the_donald
@fire.within - FL tell me more about what IE should be like fren
right wing hindu, oof, real indo hours
@ExternalPepsi I think you put a middle finger react up by accident t
hilarious to even state that IE shouldn't turn into T_D
@ExternalPepsi What the hell, dude? What's with your reaction???
Yeah lol
It was an accident kek
I actually agree with him
@NateDahl76 he is in agreement with that post
I've accidentally done the middle finger react too @NateDahl76
Ah okay, good.
sorry yall
@fire.within - FL alright if youโd rather be Puritan and not have any influence over national policy thatโs fine
Straw man
I am very confused by not wanting to pursue national politics
@ExternalPepsi Well, I am under NDA. There are some things I simply won't mention but there are certainly members who would be happy to fill you in.
Generally speaking there is a shoreline of broken projects, organizations and people left in RS's wake. Operation Homeland/the IE split is a perfect example of this. He is a user, who sees people and infrastructure as a vehicle for his propulsion and fame. Richard had a major fall from grace, and it was completely his own fault. His movement, organization, website, family and donors all fell apart in a matter of months.
Like, my man: how are you going to lead a political movement when you can't even lead a family?
how are you going to lead anything when you can't stop drinking long enough to do a stream
An egoist and poorly ajusted guy, sadly.
@Sam Southern - TN it is real indo hours, Hawaiian nationalism is unfortunately dead, maybe we can bring it back and she can be a restored client queen of her state
Because he is quite articulate.
Eh He's still worth something for the AR imo so whatever.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/26/tulsi-gabbard-bashar-al-assad-syria-democrats idk if you remember this
unironically based
@ExternalPepsi The AR is dead, dude.
the AR hasn't existed in awhile
we WUZ ar, we identitarians for awhile now
Whatever you want to call the broader awakening
I still think entertainment sources like TRS have their utility to an extent...
But beyond that.
...
Also pretty incredulous of anyone taking a guy like Eric Striker seriously on anything besides the history of the Russian Revolution.
nazbol gang wants a strong word
all 3 of them
When the left loses, they adapt
When the establishment lost in 2016, they ruthlessly adjusted
Censored social media
Recalibrated vote fraud
Cranked up hysteria in their base and in the media
Whites took some losses last night, fellas
The idea that weโre all supposed to sit around and pretend like we won and change nothing is insane to me
Anyone else think Obama killed the Alexandrov Red Army Choir? Why isn't this a legit conspiracy theory? Joe Biden said the US would retaliate for Russian hacking or whatever and shortly afterwards they get blown out of the sky
Would be epic if Putin brought performance artists or a choir with him to DC, I wanna see at least something or a ceremony upon his arrival, although I'm not a huge fan or anything
The left's protest is going to be hilarious.
just saw a twitter take that has me excited, kobach for AG??
@fire.within - FL If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your news/media/podcasts, generally?
@Sam Southern - TN Yeah I suspect him and Lou Barletta are going to find their way into Trump's cabinet.
@Sam Southern - TN I totally forgot we wanted him in the Executive. Some appointment is sure to happen
whitepillers vindicated on senate when a more or less blatant WN becomes head of DoJ
For everyone down in the dumps about the elections, lets remember our more immediate goals, and focus on them:
do we have an actual poster like that??
i just made that now cause graphics get more attention than a simple text post.
All of these men are dead <:sad:366743316475281408> Horrible tragedy, been almost two years and it still sucks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0DsOaLRbZ8
@Asatru Artist - MD that's awesome, man
Graphics draw a lot of great attention
Trying to give the blackpillers something shiny to grab onto. ๐
@Papa Pizzagate FTN, 3rd Rail, TRS, JFโs stream, Eric Striker
You?
That's quite the echo chamber there.
Twitter and occasionally a James Allsup video.
Fuentes once in a blue moon too.
Twitter <:nervous:359009898115104770>
I like Allsup. Fuentes bores me
Then some more NRX stuff, but that isn't explicitly political, really.
Alt Hype has some pretty great videos. One of the only political youtubers I still really follow
@Kingfish I thought you liked NJF too
*as well.
Oh yeah I like Fuentes but his stuff is hard to tune into at times he really only does long shows
Tbh I havenโt been consuming as much content lately. The podcastsphere in general bores me now
The movement in general, I think, has reached a point where we need something new
@Kingfish Agreed. I just watch the clips that people cut up on twitter, or tune in while im folding laundry or something.
Trump on tv rn going down the list of House losers who didnt want to embrace his platform
I think you mean rational collective self interest ๐
@Logan the absolute mad man
RAtional Collective Identitarian Self-interesT
RACIST
ok Iโm done
Anglin's take is great. A lot of people will reject it as cope posting but those people will be quiet in about two weeks or even two days
Guys, I-1639 (which violates the state and federal constitution) passed last night
Ut makes it so you have to submit medical records to the state to buy firearms and they can charge an arbitrary fee for extended background checks and make you wait 10 days for every gun you purchase
And restricts any semiauto rifle to 21+
AND if your gun gets stolen there's a chance YOU could get slapped with a penalty and lose all of your gun rights
Damn I wish we controlled the courts rn
Felony*
I think Trump is right on the negotiating part, I think in terms of programs having a Dem house may help actually get passed some of Trump's agenda items that Dems support like infrastructure spending.
Now the Dems have buy in to whatever gets passed
Before they literally would do nothing because RS would get all the credit
And you have to do special training that they don't have set up yet when you want to buy a gun, like every time
I wanna see if I-1639 will survive the legal challenges that'll get thrown at it
Washington has some of the strictest gun laws in the country now
@Salo Saloson I don't think it can
It blatantly violates both constitutions
I'm betting it can't because that thing is an abomination
Iโm sure itโll be taught by some cat lady bureaucrat too. โGuns are bad, mโkayyy?โ
I think Anglin forgot heโs supposed to be pretending to live in Nigeria.
It treats gun owners as criminals who have to put their private information in state databases
I mean that alone violates the 4th
Trump going off. He's calling some reporter a horrible person. I missed the reason.
itโs safe to assume thereโs a reason
wish heโd stop parading his black/hispanic approval numbers
The game plan to disarm whites and make them helpless againt Europe style speech (and thus POLITICAL) restrictions and SA-style land theft and semi-sanctioned violence is very clear. They will try to restrict arms owner ship on "mental health." The useless GOP cowards will concede, or the brown Marxists will push it when they politically can. THEN all forms of pro-white thought ("racism") will be classified as Mental Illness
This scenario is already candidly discussed in young leftist vanguard
yep, Iโve heard that sort of talk
oh FFS theyโre asking about foreign interference in the midterms
lemme tell ya about foreign interference...
Don't worry though I am sure based GOP Nimrata Radhawa won't let that happen
^sarcasm. Of course she'll let my above posted scenario happen
@Nemets Wow in CA? That is impressive! You did work hard and it was admirable.
lol one if the reporters called Nov 8 2016 a โdark nightโ
how subtle
@Nemets just walked into the state GOP office and walked out with the personal cell numbers of two county chairs
Tryna follow in your footsteps
Something I saw this afternoon -"Right-Wing Hate Groups Are Recruiting Video Gamers" https://www.npr.org/2018/11/05/660642531/right-wing-hate-groups-are-recruiting-video-gamers
gamers rise up
Rise up
Bear in mind that "hate group" is a new way of getting peoples' attention
To be fair, commies play HoI4 too
Just not as stylish
@Nemets check DMs when you can fam
The globalist fears the Evropan gamer
Anyone post Trumps exchange with Jim Acosta yet?
Havenโt seen him this angry in a while
@fire.within - FL watching it live. I guess I missed that though
โthatโs such a racist questionโ
o o f
hahaha exactly!
โimpeecheengโ
Pelosi has already said thatโs not gonna happen
god her voice is annoying
Possible pilpul
Does Putin ever have to deal with childish people like Jim Acosta?
@Singleton Mosby WV not for long
โI retired Jeff Flakeโ
Certainly not @Singleton Mosby WV
is that like retiring replicants in BR?
"more entertaining question please"
did he say MTV Lebanon?
sounds lit
and the JQ, to an extent
Trump unloading on Acosta was so satisfying
Didnโt Nixon remark about how Jews never served in the military?
Nixon was based in every definition of the word
Too bad he supported government overreach
Yes. it is important to remember the Ohio River *CAUGHT FIRE* EPA was necessary, and is
Trump said white supremacist terror is a problem heโs going to deal with, and he โdoesnโt even like it a little bitโ.
After some reporter just asked him about it.
Yeah, of course not. Just thought it was an interesting statement.
A reporter was chastising him for focusing on Islamic terrorism instead of โright wing terrorismโ
Watching the video of King Trump going off on Jim Acosta right now. Something about the reporter who goes next... he looks familiar. ๐ค
Well Trump is all talk. Maybe he's all talk about both the bad as well as the good
Seems the white women voted for the non white candidate lol
so did the white men!
they're both white
DR3 LOL
@Nemets THAT is a big reason for my blackpilling. If re house had held more, Trump could purge FBI to an extent
Then again he could have any time last two years
I low key like Ivy League affirmative action. Glow in the darks and globalists sourcing from upjumped scholarship browns lowers their effectiveness. Better than them incorporating the Yellow Peril
Trump just kicked some serious ass in that last press conference ten minutes ago.
While chronic pessimism is unproductive, it's also unproductive to dismiss genuine concerns. There's a huge difference between being a defeatist and acknowledging legitimate obstacles that we have. When someone mentions that historically Republican states were won by small margins, the correct response isn't to dismiss this person and point out the obvious, that we won it this time at least, the correct response is to talk about what we can do to solve the problem. Yes, we've seen a lot of positive developments recently. That doesn't mean we can't discuss negative developments. When someone brings up a negative development, the correct response isn't to yell at them about how cool it is that birthright citizenship is going away. You can acknowledge setbacks. We're all adults here and we can handle it.
The truth is, it *does* suck that we lost the house. However, there's no need to create a false dichotomy on how to respond. It's not a choice between ignoring it and overdosing on whitepills or becoming a defeatist. You can acknowledge the problem and discuss it.
Plus with SJW nonsense the Ivy League is increasingly a meme and liability for anyone who isn't deep state
@Axel that was really interesting to watch
I havenโt seen trump that angry since the campaign
@Nemets First Generation Asians are shop owners, second generation and on are Sarah Jeongs
When is Jim Acosta going get removed from the press room? I thought for sure it was about to happen today
@Jacob THANK YOU. That's what I was trying to say this morning while people were basically mocking anyone with less false hope than a Q-posting boomer
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN correct. I've almost never disagreed politically with first generation asians on anything, across all nationalities, but second gen and beyond are very lame.
@Nemets Poland only exists because ZOG needs it as a bulwark/buffer against Diet-ZOG (Russia)
I know and work with a lot of Filipinos who are very based and redpilled. It sucks they dont actively work against their progeny ruining everything.
@DeusVolk The most anti white coworker I have had was a Chinese descendents 2nd gen "non binary" bitch lesbo
She was mad at me for being proud of being Oklahoman, because muh displaced indigenous. So I pretty much said "fine can I get a ride to Eurasia with you, bexause this isn't your shit either, Wong (actual last name)!" This was when I was still leftist too lol
@Nemets Rest well, sir
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Epic own.
Also, it's incredibly unproductive to tell ourselves that civic nationalism is more than what it is. No, if civnats succeed it's not going to make the world 10 times better. I know this might make some people strawman me and say that I just want us to isolate ourselves or whatever. No, I totally support voting for civnats over the alternative. I totally support joining their clubs and blending in.
However, civic nationalism is not going to solve absolutely anything in the long term. I know it sounds cool to say that civnats want to deport illegals. You have to remember, though, that they still support turning you into a minority and flooding your labor market through legal immigration, just slightly slower than liberals.
So, yes, vote for them, help them defeat the liberals, but don't act like civic nationalism is actually going to solve absolutely anything on it's own.
I support Maxine Waters for Speaker of the House
@missliterallywho "Impeach fowty faive!"
Civic nationalists aren't 80% there, they're maybe 20% there.
These guys literally just spent months idolizing Kanye, a self proclaimed fan of BLACKED porn.
If that's what "80% there" looks like, I'm worried.
@Jacob Not a soul in here believes civic nationalism to be a solution.
Civnat is actually worse than out in the open turbulent multicult
The kids of immigrants are worse then their parents who were tame. For some reason second gen Muslims always find allah
After theyโve adopted a white or urban identity
Because they know they don't fit in here
The hard limit to assimilation is race
Yup
I just find the "10 times better", "80 percent there" rhetoric to be worrying and something that could lead to complacency. Yes, we should absolutely be glad that we're not under President Clinton right now. But we also have a tremendous amount of work to do. It's not a matter of just 20% there and we win. If we really care about a better future, it's going to be a lot more hard work than we might think. @Papa Pizzagate
White conservatives need to be thinking explicitly about racial purity going forward in a wildly diverse country, not allowing interracial relations etc
Or else we *will truly* become 52% face in time
It's important to take a nuanced view on things. The average civnat is probably slightly better than the average liberal. However, there are definitely some civnats who outright harm us more than they help us. If someone is saying things like, "I just want to end illegal immigration, I want *more* legal immigration", that person is actively working against me.
At the same time, there's guys like Tucker Carlson or Steve King that do much more good than the average civnat.
Explicitly talking about stuff like "racial purity" is going to drive people away. That's too far to go around the public.
Tuckers somewhere in between us and Trump
Regardless of what happens politically the White conservative culture needs to shift to explicit White identity
The fact of the matter is millions of people love tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter and these more โAmerica firstโ people. Theyre on tv, they have book sales, theyโre loved. Weโre revolted and hunted down. Iโd rather be the former personally. And I think we can do that without actually sacrificing our views
That's a tall order but it's the only choice
We need to DEFEND THE ROCKIES more than ever now! <:deye:359010025223618570>
I disagree entirely. an American nationalist identity has to come before a white identity
Oh gwaawd!
We canโt normalize white identity before we normalize trump populism
Nebraska, Idaho, and Utah all voted to expand Medicaid. Hopefully that will help stem the opioid crisis.
No problem with Medicaid in lily white states.
It serves as an asset rather than a drain on resources.
White identity *is* the American norm, the thing is just undoing lies
It *was* the norm
We need to adapt and we need to be pragmatic
We need to play the hand weโre dealt not hope to god the dealer pulls aces for us
Polis looks like a creep. God save Colorado.
I think a third party "public health care- but no immigration- environmental protection- but more gun freedom- simplified and streamlined taxes- but fuck silicon valley" position could do well. Not advocating it in National races due to splitting though
If the republicans started stealing left wing economic policy here and there weโd be golden
Start with student debt or something
And work our way
Agreed. The anti-environmentalist stance has got to go.
The dogmatically capitalist stance as well
Environmentalism isn't going to win elections
People like Tucker Carlson and Anne Coulter know exactly what they're doing. They exist to nudge people further to the right. One thing that was actually a big whitepill for me recently was realizing that these people are using talking points that would have been "white nationalist" talking points a few years ago. The reason they're allowed to do this now is because they have people like us that make them look more moderate.
Also, we need someone to push the edge of the Overton Window. As great as Tucker Carlson types are, if America just stops at Tucker Carlson, we'll still become a minority. There needs to be people who promote something further right in a civilized, non-spergy way. @Kingfish
It's not that important of an issue outside academic liberal groups
Environmentalism is a hugely important issue
That is what I mean, what do I have in common with a Republican who loves race mixing and hates the environment and wants to let Big Tech corporations bevome the Panopticon because stopping their oligarchy would somehow be "socialist"?
To you, maybe
Not to most of America
It's red meat for a left wing base that we don't have
We can be that without yelling about race and crime statistics and making everyone hate us
I mean outside of politics, it matters that the Earth and its creatures are being poisoned
@Patrick People like clean air and water.
We can be a vanguard for a radical right wing populist movement that very clearly is pushing long term pro white goals
These pro white goals can be achieved implicitly
At least for the short term
It's long past time to be somewhat explicit about race
At least
Not saying down the line that will change, Iโm saying currently the hand we are dealt is being pragmatic and working the floor
America has the cleanest air in the world, and we can keep it without stupid planks like gas taxes that hurt the working class so suburbanites can virtue signal about their "carbon footprint"
Environmentalism is green on the outside, and red when you open it up and look at the specifics
Our guys absolutely focus too much on race and crime stats and race and IQ stats. I think we agree on that. @Kingfish
There's no such thing as too much focus on race. How that's presented is another question
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