Greetings fellas

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gawd

@Grayson No

What is the meaning of the pledge role?

Thanks bro, hail Odin 👀

Eric Striker is my fave TRS affiliate at this point

How long until Tucker supports secession from the Sodom below

My roots are deeply Confederate and I sympathize that way in spirit but there's the case to be made that it was a rich man's war and poor man's fight for the protraction of slavery which hurt average White families and the development of the South. And it's a real question what the racial outcome in an independent CSA would have been. On the one hand slavery would have bred many more negroes on the land for decades longer but on the other hand Southerners were more racially woke and would have kept them suppressed if not deported all of them, which honestly I question the physical possibility of

Do you all believe that the lands of North America can ever be enchanted for us and our blood the way Europe is or will we always essentially be wandering Europeans

Immigration, even European, did not help with a blood and soil ethnogenesis. Right now we might be living the cataclysmic origin story of the American folk who come to be

Who knows

Fair, I am speaking from a deracinated point of view. I'm just White and my region is just a zone. Anglo-Americana resonates but it's gone from here now

Quebecois stand far and above in intact organic identity amongst Euro-North Americans

Probably because they speak another language, primarily

Yeah, as 25% face Swede visiting MN anywhere near a major metropolitan area is blackpilling

Even the small town I visit now

Has brown faces creeping in in greater numbers every year

Do you know of the disappearing Tangier Island accent?

https://youtu.be/upKqzxuJ5L4

It is simultaneously whitepilling to see these little ethnies are extant and blackpilling because they are so fragile and will certainly go culturally extinct if this current order does not first

My grandfather had a sort of half way American half way Stockholm accent

By way of being second generation

Right, the context is that Spanish is linguistic warfare

If we make immigration a thing again it should be understood for the sake of cohesion and civilizational self confidence that we speak English and our core culture is English-derived

A federation authoritatively united in outward policy but with a good measure of regional and local autonomy would be most desirable imo

Right, and in international dealings the most immediate level is White North America which would justify a superstate united in military, trade policy, borders, etc

Retaining strong local autonomy

The question is; is there a way to get the balance right and have a vast continental state without stepping on local toes or are the libertarians right that any state will expand itself maximally

But! Have you gotten amazing restaurants covered?

@Nemets Old gold

Oh, prob saw it 2015

@ophiuchus oh yeah it is

She's going in for a *sip*

Ruminating on who is possibly a Jew also creates the impression that Jews are the same as white people and difficult to distinguish

60-70% is very low in my book and they nonetheless genetically cluster and function as aliens

It is different from the Middle Eastern Farmer component in Europeans

No it's still a major component especially in S Euro

All that must be impressed upon curious normies is that they are not just another white group

In group preference doesn't really capture it though, Jews in America today marry out at what, 60-70%? and there's nothing wrong with in group preference.

With the JQ we're talking about an insidious blending in and rotting from the foundations not simple in group preference and competition

I'm simply saying a majority of American Jewry now miscegenate with goyim and that's something to be thinking about going into the future

So, not to cause a stir, but what's the deal with Spencer and IE

I don't follow movement drama

But why the latent tension

He actually said that did he? @TylerHess

@NateDahl76 Yeah I was asking Tyler about the too middle class comment

Hah, I see what he's probably bemoaning when he says middle class and it's a good thing. Intelligent pragmatism

Has IE received any former TWP members following that glorious display of the meaning of white trash

Yeah

On a certain level respect is extended to anyone who puts his neck out for this but that doesn't mean they can do no wrong

This unfounded physical confidence is a funny trend amongst left wing kids

Bunch a nadzee :DDDDD

Oh wow there are consequences for physicality against stronger men????

But we're all equal

Based

Y'all saw this right https://youtu.be/ZIxs6vFIlNw

Possibly the gayest possible thing

Weaponize Asian men against WMAF

I did a while back and they were talking about chasing white women

Fuck them

At a certain point we need a name and to stick with it. Taking on "baggage" is just a function of its use in the passage of time

Anyone who listens to us for five minutes knows we're White Nationalists

Better to be who we are than scurry around looking for strange new words to euphemize it as if we're ashamed

Bring conservatives to us not us to them

That's ridiculous dude

If you're not explicit on race what is even the purpose of any of this

How many times since the 50s have we learned the lesson that masking our true intentions does not work except to actually degrade those intentions into what we wanted to overcome in the first place (the mainstream right)

Right, one should be as optics friendly as possible *within* explicit White advocacy toward an ethnostate, or else what are we really doing here @ThisIsChris

@ThisIsChris What more could we want? Who else will struggle for the ideal for us?

An effective radical vanguard should act as a center of gravity for everyone very broadly on our side, not as an ideological prostitute pulled this way and that by who we "need" to appease

@ThisIsChris An ideal is a frame of reference that gives "important" or "unimportant" their meanings

In the truly long game, only an ethnostate addresses the conditions necessary for our guaranteed existence. I see it as a victory in itself that ethnostate has entered the lexicon of the politically minded

@ThisIsChris One can have immediate goals like securing the border and freedom of association, increasing our birthrate and decreasing that of the colored, etc, and these are all good, but if we're serious about our indefinite existence we can never lose sight of the fact that races only exist at all because of isolation, and anything less than an ethnostate means some measure of mixture every generation until we're gone as a distinct people

I'm thinking to myself, what is the plan for Europeans 10,000 years down the road?

The ruling elite game, which is the best we can hope for outside an ethnostate, does not work, empirically. Look at Indians. Look at Persians. Look at South Americans. @ThisIsChris

Why not go "all out", if we can? No one will aim for it for us. We can talk about where we are presently, and what to do about it, but without a true ideal, what can we say we are actually moving towards? Can we struggle for something less than what we really want in our hearts? @ThisIsChris

What you're putting forward as an endgame just fails to inspire and I think most likeminded to us would agree @ThisIsChris

The ethnostate is the ideal, no doubt, its plausibility right now is out there but nothing great is easily or quickly gained. And it is great. A dream. A hope. Unlike trying to make it work amongst a teeming brown empire

I like how you call blacks Bantus

I think you underestimate the power and actually necessity of having an absolutist ideal. At the bottom of a hole it serves as a point of reference as to what "better" would be. Better would be more whites, less non whites, more promotion of tradition and less of degeneracy, more of health and less of sickness, etc. Don't get blinders on about immediate smaller issues or else the effort is all for nothing in the end @ThisIsChris

@ThisIsChris But they all are only desirable within a framework wherein the implicit ideal is the ethnostate

What do you put forward as peak white flourishing instead?

Just making it work somehow?

Why?

When we know what the best thing for our people really is

What I really want to impress is that no one will stake that radical ideal for us. And the more we promote it the more acceptable everyone a little more lenient looks, pulling the overton window our way

Cause like, if ethnostate guys are a fact of politics, by comparison just being hard on immigration looks moderate

@ThisIsChris

"Any foreseeable time and place"

What are we even laboring for then

If you can't foresee any time and place

where a white nation for whites is plausible

So you want plausibility but fewer specifics. I guess the ideal on that view is just "Shit be how it is"

Not really though? The fact the word ethnostate is even in the political vocabulary now is a victory

Well are we trying to accomplish something or be non threatening?

What about the guys we really want to whom ethnostate sounds appealing? Who do they join? Idiot wn 1.0 type groups?

I joined IE because I see it as the most plausible vehicle for the existence and flourishing of our people, which in the end necessitates absolute homogeneity

@ThisIsChris Wellbeing in any sense that makes, well, sense, implies a range of minimal and maximal wellbeing. What is your idea of maximal wellbeing if not a place by and for us and us alone for our interests alone