wait why are we suggesting sperm banks? lmao

just so you can say that you bred?

https://family-law.freeadvice.com/family-law/child_support/artificial_insemination_donor_obligation.htm

uff

Thank you for the info. I won't give up on marriage quite yet

Sometimes your powerlevel is just too high

😂

Imagine being such a boring conversationalist that men are forced to bring up obscure animu just to have something to talk about

^

New dating app for right wingers is live called Righter. No girls in my area smh

lmao these right wing dating sites seem to have a tendency to be honeypots

Bad Optics QT or Quantico/Langley Graduate?

The eternal question

Either way, too troublesome

That’s why I used my anonymous email account and haven’t put up pics yet

Don’t post any pictures of yourself with guns or say anything LARPy and you’ll be fine

Wouldnt dream of it. Ya never know who calls themselves (((conservative)))

" Teehee I'm Rachael 23, I love illicit firearms and hate the constitution. So when's Charlottesville 4 happening anon?"

🕵

Remember boys, Murdoch chan isn't real

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN :( don't ruin my childhood hopes

>cartoon starts in 2016
>childhood?
Based teen (temporarily) leave this server!

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN every day is childhood

until you start working

Catching up on this channel was fun

Can’t contribute anything on the texting game front, definitely a weak point for me. I guess you’d have to carry your irl attitude into it but when getting a girls number from a dating app that’s so many degrees of separation I just don’t even bother.

what about ebola chan?

😍

I went on a date this week but the girl was not as cute in person, made me carry the whole convo, had been divorced, and had crazy-eyes

So yeah

Still single

@Sherlock better luck next time! "Divorced" how old was she?

@ThisIsChris 31

@Sherlock makes sense

@Sherlock I'm not sure how old you are but you might want to try dating younger girls. I know that a lot of arguments can be made about lack of maturity and such but by 31 most unmarried women are probably beyond saving. Some people might consider me an extremist but I don't think it's crazy for a man in his forties to pursue women in their early twenties.

I’m 33. I would definitely prefer a younger girl so i can avoid the baggage and also because I’d like kids

But I’m still figuring out how to meet girls at all in my 30s. I didn’t have much trouble getting girls when I was younger but it’s different now - not in college etc, don’t have the social network. So far, dating apps seem the best (or at least easiest) way of meeting girls who aren’t insane. But idk

20 and 40 seems like a bit much

Yeah I always give the advice of go to church. Even if its just to meet people in general it's still good for you, beyond that look at how you are spending your time and try to make a conscious effort to increase the number of people who you are interacting with. If you spend an hour or two a day playing video games for example try going to a park instead. Little things like that add up over time.

The thing about age differences is that it's hard to quantify what is acceptable

Ultimately, any rule will be "arbitrary"

I'm 27 and my girlfriend is 19. Originally she thought I was too old for her but I was able to convince her otherwise. Ultimately I think what matters most is relationship dynamics. What are your goals, what are her goals, and how do those things mesh. I think in most cases for people in our movement that tends to older men with younger girlfriends and wives.

Church is where the good girls are.

hhhmmm

its complicated imo

Even within the same denomination, different parishes have vastly different cultures. All the liberals in my town go to one church, moderates go to another, and the most traditional go to another one.

So just try and search out for more traditional communities then?

And even if there are some feminists at church, the odds of finding a traditionalist are far better than outside of church.

I agree with the chances. You are right in that there are higher chances when going to church. Sorry to nitpick

I just meant like basically its a minefield almost everyone. Less of a minefield in church though

everywhere*

Church youth groups = A+ dating market

😄

A lot of churches push the diversity stuff really hard

There was this really Christian blonde girl I worked with who posted this creepy video about how we're all the same and united in Jesus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ak40vNsGrI

A lot of time I see them posting pictures from their missions to Africa or Latin America

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ok np

@Jacob a church that doesn’t preach the pozz is a bit of a diamond in the ruff, but they exist. A local IE friend brought me to a very traditional Catholic Church and I’m loving it.

Ya I'm trying to keep a pulse on Mormonism but I think they have tendencies to go global and adopt globalist strategies to increase membership

but who knows they may retain their Northern european heritage

A Catholic friend who did research in the various Christian denominations said that Mormonism teaches that black skin is a punishment from God. That was interesting to hear.

SSPX has an whole traditional Catholic community across the nation. They do singles week somewhere in Oklahoma, I believe, because the trad Catholic communities are so small it's hard to meet other true Catholics.😉

@Tanner - SC that is an old teaching, but yes they said the reason black people were cursed with dark skin was because they were "neutral" in God's war against Satan. I do not believe that is part of their canon any longer

W..w..what are you trying to say Tinder?

Lololol

That's what happens when you use Sonic the Hedghog themed pickup lines

"just a blue hedgehog chasing Tails"

Gotta go fast

@RevStench Of all the churches I've been to, the Orthodox community has the least interest in preaching to non-whites. Seems like people come to this community because they are interested in genuine tradition, not just being 20 years behind Unitarians

@Attrition in the desert I've been getting a lot of those, too

Tinder? You could be gay and be more likely to get a girlfriend than by using Tinder

Also if you're in college, there's no reason to be using disreputable dating apps, let alone tinder. Just go to the quad, student activities center, library, gym, book club, tutoring center, academic clubs, or whatever and just talk to girls.

^^^^
THIS!!!

@ThisIsChris I think what a lot of people have an issue with is how exactly to just go up to someone in public and just start having a conversation

@Jacob "Hey there I'm Jacob, nice to meet you, do you come here often/some weather today huh/you look nice and I'd like to get to know you."

"what do you think of this lecture/book/game/new building/day"

"yeah I chose to come here today because I'm completely new to it and wanted to learn more. I would like to continue this conversation sometime would you like to meet for coffee [at some time during daylight in the next few days] at [some place in public]?"

☝️

Unless you're really good looking and outgoing, a lot of those will come across as creepy.
Certain dating apps are fine because then you know she's looking for a relationship too. Hookup apps like tinder should be avoided like the plague though.

You can really meet anyone anywheee

Anywhere

I met my boyfriend at a pet shop and he’s in IE lmao

The main problem with talking to grils irl is that unless you are above a certain threshold of looks they won't give you the time of day.

@NITRODUBS okay that's pretty chad tbh

to approach a girl in a pet shop and manage to get her into IE

Well, kinda other way around lmao

He didn’t know IE existed but he had these beliefs

He joined probably a week or two after me.

It was just so awkward the first two dates because he assumed I was a lefty

that's actually kinda crazy

I wonder if I'll ever meet identitarians in stores without expecting it

My local Catholic young adults group has far more women than men and they're all traditional. It's great.

We all look so normal it’s hard to realize it

While I was home I struck up a convo with based and redpilled girl in my area. From that wasp love website. However we never got to meet in person. I did ask her to apply to IE if she wanted to get more involved.

@NITRODUBS "we all look so normal it's hard to realize it" Exactly what we look for in IE candidates!

@TMatthews Re: looks and being outgoing, Yes of course I think there is a bare standard for looks a guy should have to be successful in meeting girls but I don't think it's sky high, basically don't be a slob, go to the gym once in a while, and walk a lot (this certainly gets harder if you get a desk job). As for being outgoing I think if you are able to see things from the girl's perspective then you will avoid most social mistakes. Good practice would be to imagine you're hanging out in your quad or w/e, and a girl strikes up a conversation with you. Asking how would you feel and how would you react.

@TMatthews To your comment about looks.

Of course looks matter, but dont use that as an excuse to limit yourself.

Guys like Ryan Gosling show us how to do it. Gosling isn't a classically handsome guy, but he's is in fairly good shape, his clothes are tailored and he keeps a fresh haircut.

Do those basic things while carrying yourself with some genuine confidence, and you are good to go!

@Tyler0317 For me personally, starting a conversation at random wouldn't feel genuine.

I like the idea of a dating app because you can talk a bit and see if the other person is interested in a real relationship (I'm in college, so hookup culture is rampant). I think it's good to start on the same page, but I'm not advising against striking up conversation out of the blue if you're outgoing enough to make it feel natural.

if you are going the app route, I'd at least suggest to stay off tinder and other known hookup platforms.

"starting a conversation at random wouldn't feel genuine"
That's something you could work on.

I would suggest looking at Wasp Love... it’s a dating site catering to like minded ppl. Just be cautious of how u interact with others. However i haven’t met anyone questionable... yet

"Reformed Christian, Quiverfull, Confederate, Homeschooled, Christian Identity, white nationalism, altright, Sovereign Grace"

that's... quite the mix

I'm 33 and single with no kids, so I'm in no position to give advice.

However, I've had considerable success dating "out of my league".

I don't think we should expect to find women on the the same page as us.

We should seek out women where they are (even if that's on tinder). Women want a strong leader of a man. Be that leader, and pull her into your orbit.

I'm thinking about trying bumble. I know it was founded by a feminist, but it requires that people prove they're real and it doesn't inflate women's egos by having a thousand guys messaging them.
Tinder requires Facebook anyway

@ThisIsChris one of our former FL members actually found his wife on tinder. Probably one in a million chance with that said. I just think no stone should go unturned.

@Tyler0317 this, dude. There's no reason to limit yourself to a BASED SHIELD MAIDEN GF

Who cares if a woman isn't an Identitarian? Who cares if she's not Conservative? As long as she's not a screaching feminist, you can build something solid with her

I don’t think tinder requires fb anymore @TMatthews but it does require your phone number

@John O - eh "who cares" seems a bit too far, though you're probably right that it's not a requirement

it definitely would be an advantage to be politically similar

At the end of the day, it's more about values than specific ideology. Does she want to work or stay home? How many kids does she want to have? Thoughts on homeschooling, vaccination, staying close to extended family, how to raise children, etc

I would say she should be able to accept your views even if she doesn't agree with everything. Apolitical or right wing gives better odds of that happening

I see political leanings as related to a persons values. A lot of IE men seem to lean more traditional overall. No she doesn’t have to be full blown identitarian but if she doesn’t care if the 3rd world repopulates America I question if you ever will be able to build something solid with her.

Women tend to lean Left, and men tend to lean Right. The ratio of traditional men to women seems to be not in our favor. At the end of the day, our struggle is about progeny, and if you're too hung up on finding the perfect woman, you'll never progenate. Should you settle for an absolute degenerate pot smoking whore? Of course not. But we are the men among the ruins, and as such, our options are less than ideal. Find a woman with good genetics and have some kids

Women lean towards what is socially acceptable. Right now, that is generally liberalism but it depends on her social circle. Men do this too but to a lesser extent.

Read Game

^ this tbh

Strip out the degeneracy from the PUA stuff and what they teach is actually quite useful to a young man. And not just romantically but in life too

Game is a great book. No to degeneracy, yes to useful rules for social etiquette and self improvement.

@Ryan -NJ which book? Game was what PUA was called before it was called PUA, but it was even more degenerate at the beginning being run by an inner circle around "Mystery" and Neil Strauss who wrote "Game"

@ThisIsChris The name of the book is Game. One of Roosh’s latest.

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I wasn’t sure what I was getting into when I picked up all of Roosh’s books but I was very pleasantly surprised at the wealth of knowledge in Game. It’s the sort of book that forces you to take inventory of all your past epic fails with women and cringe as you reflect on how you sabotaged yourself. I’d highly recommend picking it up.

I never even knew tinder had usernames lol

@ThisIsChris haha my dad had that Neil Strauss book, not sure if he still does

is it that bad?

@Jacob Well, Neil Strauss describes trying to sleep with women as being like a video game, push the right buttons at the right time to rack up points with a girl until you "win". Most of the justifications for his reasoning come from tenuous evolutionary psychology. I also read his follow up book "Rules of the Game" which is an "exercise" each day to do that he thinks teach skills a "pick up artist" needs to know. Certainly put me off to evolutionary psychology as a tool that is used to back up a bunch of BS that doesn't even correspond to real life.

I stopped reading *Rules of the Game* on day 2. Haven't showered since.

Women enjoy a musk

Revolt against the modern shower

It seriously suggests not showering?

I haven't bathed in 2 months, and women regularly look at me when I'm near them on a train, or in a small room, or some other similarly confined space

Looking at you is a good sign

This is good

@Sherlock it did daily exercises. I guess one day it said to not shower for a day. Usually the point of doing a weird thing was to get confidence doing weird things or getting confidence when everything isn't perfect.

But it wasn't supposed to be a permanent state of being 😂

Oh ok lol

If you have to resort to skipping showers in order to have weird things to test your confidence, you have a pretty goddamn boring life

>not being a naturally oily nigga who accrues a musk quickly