gonna get a vpn, and probably switch this side of my life to another browser

But was she big gay

*your family tree LGBT*

That’s not quite how that works

I made an IE specific email address too

*your genus has penis*

Ok I’m getting loopy goodnight guys

i use different emails for IE, discord, and slack

^

well one email for all my alternative stuff

I have a completely different persona for IE.

protonmail

Email, social media, everything.

I started using an encrypted email for any IE stuff, my original email on the site had my real name in it

Probably not my smartest move

NOH8

I’m just “Fred X” now

@Fred X - NJ Me too. I am black IRL, actually

completely fake name as well, Norman Lawrence

I think blacks are allowed in the ethnostate anyway

@fgtveassassin luckily your #based regional coordinator changed it for you

But who will play sportsball?

Very true, can confirm @Papa Pizzagate Is black as well, was at his apartment the other day and he had a bottle of henney ready to go

sportball will be replaced with GrecoRoman Wrestling

@godric the white family down the street called the Blacks is allowed in to the ethnostate yes

Henny...myyyy nibby

👀

Anyone see the super bowl henny commercial about the black guy riding the bike and being famous like 125 years ago? Like ok? We invited the wheel. Both of them he was on actually

Nope!

LMAO
https://twitter.com/isawrobertsmith/status/1092560631729999873?s=21

😂

The leagve of shadvws

I was born in the teal

OMG, I'm crying laughing after the phone call around 5 minutes in: 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSPkB-gmFG4

Oh man, this NAACP call is good too.

lol

notice like most of his staff seems brand new

there are rumbles he doesnt pay his employees

so they leave

Otis you sonofagun

have we shilled the Jared Taylor interview enough or is there anyone who still doesn't know about it?

on the lit club server? @Jacob

probably for everyone on the server

CRINGE!
Check out @TPointUK’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1092112943884500992?s=09

I actually support all the things that they're fighting against

When is the JT interview again?

This Sunday

Thanks.

February 10th at 2 PM EST

I'll have to jump in on the way back from Utah.

especially identity politics

@Jacob Alt left tho? 🤔

Hmmrm

if it's an alternative to the current left then sure

leftists used to be against immigration and stuff like trannies

I don't really care if you're an economic leftist

Alt Left as in Striker & Friends?

Alt-Left is what Sean hannity tier people call antifa and commies.

alt left is not what you want in short

Identity politics though?

Alt left aka starving Spergs

But antifa isn't "alt." They have an armed march on Stone Mountain and the cops help them.

i agree. alt left is a shit term

ya sure I think Striker is well meaning

is he a net benefit? idk

but I mean I doubt he does much harm

You have to be important to be harmful

not really

well, if you don't show your face or do activism

it's kind of hard if all you do is talk

you can be totally irrelevant but if you're going around being rude to people or throwing up Romans you're pretty harmful

Striker isn't in IE, so if Striker is not to liking, then leave him be while IE does IE.

eh I don't think that logic really works

you can not be in IE but still make white identity politics looks bad

I'm pretty sure being against "racism" and "collectivism" is just a euphemism for being against British ethnic solidarity

being against collectivism is dumb

are you gonna refuse to help your family and friends too?

that's CoLeKtUvIzUm

There are some really hilarious parody accounts for this TPointUK launch

https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1092319964705538048

I miss 2016 Brexit memes

hello yikes dept?

Most are antifa accounts making 'poo poo' jokes

but there are a handful that have given me some belly laughs

oh those memes that show Charlie Kirk saying dumb stuff are Antifa memes?

lmao I've been laughing at Antifa memes

It's a small minority who like what charlie is about

it's probably a mixed bag

@nord
>that guy
>being British

conservatism is so dumb and boring

@Asatru Artist - MD God save the queen!

like why would I care about the corporate income tax or whatever? lmao

Nothing beats a Londoner. Except an African with less respect for weapons laws?

Didn’t know british ppl had lips that big

Big homie @Nemets had some chart that indicated the real support for what TPUSA cons advocate for.

I would say there needs to be some level of temperament on the dissident right to not just throw out the rest of conservative policy totally just because neocons are gay.

I'd have to dig, and I'm in a car RN...

Conservatism is such a joke

@nord Oh, without a doubt.

"conserve"autism

I’d have skipped the entirety of my lib phase if I was old enough to realize “just because conservatism sucks it doesn’t mean liberalism is better”

Was literally 14

I'd rather turn the GOP into Trumpism or, better TUCKERISM, than destroy it

My dad does this really dumb thing when he argues with me where he claims I said something that I never said. I'm not sure why he does it, like, it would more sense if he was doing it behind my back, but he does it right to my face.

One of the things he constantly says is "You say you want to be conservative, but..."

And I'm like, "uh... I pretty clearly specified that that's *not* what I want to be"

can someone explain to me the logic behind this?

I think we are working with different definitions of what we mean by conservatism vs the GOP party line vs paleocon etc etc. I suppose it's all a bit confused these days.

I honestly don't get it

Just a strawman dude

Definitions are purposely subverted for a reason.

Define "define"

A really funny one was when I was younger, at an age when I never would have called myself a nationalist, he was like "you say you're a nationalist, but..."

I was really confused because I literally never would have said that back then

If you can muddle the victory conditions of an argument enough to where no one will cede people just “stop arguing” because they get bored

"you can't be a TRUE conservative/liberal if you don't hold these two contradictory positions, unflinchingly and to the death"

“Ok”

https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1091792927523827712

Sorry if I'm just posting too much of this at this point but it's funny.

BASED

This is another one he did, which I actually thought was pretty clever. He was arguing with me about something and he was like "you say family is important, but... " My natural instinct was to say "I didn't say that". Not that I was arguing that it's *un*important, it's just that... I didn't say that. This gave him an excuse to freak out and be like "so you're saying it's not important?!?!?!"

tpuk is struggling to find white people to quote I guess

His argument tactics are so Talmudic lmao

@Jacob Collectivism and socialism aren't bad, as long as it's not Marxism

NeoCons, Dubya, and Israel-Firsters not only soured me on the right wing for fifteen years it also contributed to my early/mid 2000s fedora atheist phase.

@ophiuchus Shouldn't a strawman actually be kind of hard to detect, though? He literally makes up quotes by me and tells me that I said them. What exactly does that accomplish when I can just say I didn't say that?

A strawman is just framing the argument as something it isn’t, that thing it isn’t being easier to topple

ya but I mean strawmen should be convincing

Eh

It’s like

Now I realize that I didn't hate God, or my nation. I hated people using both for their own interests against our own.

A logical integral transform

my dad would actually make a really good shitposter

I should make him a Twitter account and follow a bunch of irony bros

Your dad should go on chapo

he should debate Richard Spencer

"Mr Spencer, you say you're a conservative, but..."

Jacob's dad debates RS on Chapo

You say that the demographics will doom the GOP, but can you explain this BASED black guy?

honestly though I'm kinda glad I had the opportunity to debate my dad growing up

makes it much easier to stay calm

he just *constantly* straw mans and flings ad hominems so most leftists actually seem pretty chill in comparison

"Jacob, you say you're a dreamer, but you're not the only one"

“Son, you say you’re Jacob,”

I don't why people use that graph to say that Republics are further left on economics

doesn't it look that way because of the way the margins are drawn?

you could just as easily put a bunch of blank space on the left and arbitrarily draw the center further left

@Nemets saving to hard drive now.

thanks

look at all that socially conservative blue

more than liberal red

I think that graph is telling that the overton window needs to be shifted more to the right 😎

economically, though?

idk if were really on that graph

were on the z axis

We’re an eclectic group, for sure. I don’t have to underscore the commonality for you though.

transcend the x y graph and rise western man

We could just create a new party...eventually.

I think everyone here understands that no matter your detailed social or economic positions, it’s almost pointless to try to rectify society in those ways when the central premise is as flawed as multiculturalism.

Lets call it "The Milquetoast Opinions of Some of The Founding Fathers'" Party

That's one has already been done in practice.

Best to just let them keep their fake name.

>the future
>senate is now controlled by
>based and redpilled party
>formed in Norther California
>just after it was reconquered
>1 day after declaring itself
>a Mexican state

Dude that’s a 10/10 haiku

@Jacob Economically, too, imo. I just want a future for White people to be honest, how we peacefully get there doesn't matter to me. (except communism)

oh

I actually wouldn't mind moving left economically lol

>it is governed by
>King Freiheit
>titles of nobility were returned
>after the ascension of
>king barak obama the 2nd
>and congress never got rid of titles
>since the Dread Good King
>Baron Trump assumed rule
>of the kingdom of North America

I'm done now

No more future jokes from me for a while.

@Jacob but not le communism duh

Communism is the big ghey.

Communists be like, "Let's get this brea- oh..."

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Communism is bad but the whole thing about Eastern Europe starving like Africa is an exaggeration tbh

@Jacob To an extent I get how you could say you dislike large multinational corporations in some sectors

Idk, mixed economy keeps both segments from growing too large

The hysteria around communism, to a large extent, was used to justify immigration

“No government 0 restrictions free market” = “oh so 5 companies are the government now”

It certainly is an exaggeration after 1950, the USSR citisens were very malnourished until recent years, not quite starving to *death,* but I get your point man

the reason I don't like that narrative is that it kind of defames my people's history in a way

I think we should admit our mistakes in history, but I don't think we should make it sound like we had an entire period where all we did was fail

Unrestricted capitalism is also the big ghey <:varg:359010745192808449>
@Jacob Warsaw and the Polish hussars are pretty cool my man

In a way I kind of admire the way Russians are unapologetic about the Soviet Union

I agree, too, I don't like admitting that England is heavily cucked, or that Germany created Weimar in the 1900s and then Weimerica in 1950

Russians being proud or at least unashamed of the Soviet Union >>>>>>> brits apologizing for ruling 1/4 of the earth

I think the "Stalin dindu nuffin" narrative is a bit too far, but they should take pride in the good parts of that era and not exaggerate the bad parts

Jacob takes a stance against tankies

I suppose nobody has ever held them accountable for USSR war crimes, though, nobody marched into Russia after WWII and did stuff to 2 million Russian women and babies and bombed civilian cities. I think their mindset would be different, had they been held accountable for everything.

Asides from Bolshevik Jews wanting to overthrow the Tsars, one should recognize that the Tsars were pretty stagnant and inbred like most European monarchies. They were just ass backwards until Peter the Great so got the revolution later.

the tsars were really bad

a lot of people downplay it because they think tsars = based anti-communists

but the truth is that before the Bolshevik Revolution life expectancies and literacy were lower and infant mortality was higher

by pretty big amounts

Unironically bolshevikism was founded by New Yorker bankers which is odd to me.

ya it was definitely done with the intention to subvert

but I mean ask yourself why people supported the Bolsheviks so easily

I mean, doing something for the majority of the Russian people > doing nothing at all

Russian peasants were barely considered human by their ruling class

exactly
communism wasn't good, but to a typical peasant it probably looked like an obvious improvement to getting ruled over by feudal lords in the 20th century

People do not necessarily know what they are going to get when they overthrow an old order for a new one. I also do not expect peasant farmers to understand economics.

I want to say serfdom wasn’t officially abolished in Russia until the 1850s or so

I don't know, I think a lot more people died with Bolsheviks than with the first ruling government after the revolution. The first ruling party wasn't actually violent at all, besides the revolution, but then they were killed by the Bolsheviks.

It is sadly unfortunate

I mean, be honest. Most countries in Africa were objectively better off when run by whites too- but you weren’t going to convince the people of that. The powerless feeling that comes with being excluded from political participation doesn’t allow for rationalization of the situation.

Early Leninism was just utter economic nonsense, so much so that not even the most deranged antifa would support it. It was done out of spite. Well because ya know.

I don't know if I would even say they made a mistake. Communism may very well have been an improvement over feudalism.

That's true. They did the same thing in Germany as well, when using strife and struggle to gain influence on a personal level. It's where Antifa comes from, actually, and they're still around today, from the old 1930 German Communist party as an act of civil revolutionaries

Communism is definitely not the ideal economic system- but it was almost inevitable that *something* of its nature took the place of a system in which 20,000,000 people were legally owned.

This is a bs meme but it is funny

Again, serfdom in Russian was contemporary with Victorian England.

@Nemets without Léopold, for sure. I’m not sure about the actual Belgian government of the area.

Remember that the Congo Free State wasn’t properly Belgian- it was held as the private property of the king- who was rightly forced to abdicate for his appalling governance of the territory.

@ophiuchus Not to argue of course my man, but in every other point in history when we have fought against tyrannical monarchies, it didn't turn into Communism, but a better form of Monarchies, or republicanism, imo

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN hard to argue serfdom was worse then corporate bugmanism

Highly subjective.

They're both pretty bad though...

@The Eternal Anglo No, you’re right. But this situation was different. The same social system from the Middle Ages in Western Europe was still in place almost 100 years after the French Revolution. It wasn’t going to go gently. There was no gradual easing.

The meme was just in my folder and relevant to the topic

From talking to my family in Poland, usually the take I get is that communism wasn't ideal, but there were good and bad parts. The only people really who do the whole "OMG Zimbabwe tier breadlines" routine are immigrants who exaggerate for sympathy.

My advice is take everything immigrants say with a bit skepticism

>Zimbabwe breadlines

Have to have bread to have breadlines

damnit he stole the joke

lol ya I was thinking that too

What is Zimbabwe? I have never heard of that country

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I’m gonna start an Amish lifestyle resort. You can get the serf experience without the serf commitment. You in?

@ophiuchus hmm, that's certainly true my dude

@Evan I've farmed before. A/C in the southern summer is the only tech I'd kvetch about missing. What sort of latitude?

Oh I wouldn’t actually know how to farm. But I can sort of see that working.

@Evan Deracinated whites are always in search of "authenticity"

It’s just as bourgeoise as hiding your wealth

You could make it profitable

Exactly always looking for authenticity

Maybe I’ll put a few taco stands out of business.

Here's how I know the starvation thing is largely bullshit: Have you ever seen immigrants who from places like Somalia? They usually look pretty bad healthwise, unless they were upper class back in their home country. My family were peasants in Poland. If the narrative is true, they should have been starving in breadlines for 8 hours a day, which would have caused stunted growth and all kinds of health problems. Yet, none of them have this. They all look fine. So, ya, communism was bad, but it wasn't Somalia tier like some people on the right make it sound like.

I think a lot of “x ethnic group looks weird” is kind of eyeroll, but seriously. Somalis (Somali men more-so) look ill

ANIME 👏 WON 👏 THE 👏 SUPERBOWL 👏 👏 👏 https://twitter.com/Patriots/status/1090014665818677251

Didn’t they just starv certain parts of the country?

no lol

I’m not against leaning left either

But they would take grain from the farmers and give it to say the urban population

If you're talking about the Holodomor, the reason is affected primary Ukraine is because that's where the grain happened to be produced. There's literally zero evidence that it was a genocide.

Kingdom of that $$wagg purple mountain Kush

anime won the Super Bowl?
noice.

Also, a large part of the Holodomor was that the Kulaks were retards who decided to burn their own grain out of spite

WEEBS 👏 RULE 👏 THE 👏 WORLD 👏

Are we taking about the Rohingya

@Jacob I’ll look into from that perspective.

@VinceChaos Link evidence that Ukrainians were intentionally targeted

Oh god

We have access to Soviet archives, so if there was a genocide against Ukrainians, you'd think there'd be at least *one* document ordering it

I don't even like Stalin, I just don't think bad history is something we should engage in even if it benefits us

What being an early 21st century American is like
>read about bizarre ethnic group one day
>they suddenly start appearing all around you

It’s like some bizarre Berkeleyan Idealism where whatever ethnic group you read about last starts bleeding into reality because you read about them