Message from @Jacob

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2019-02-05 04:43:34 UTC  

"you can't be a TRUE conservative/liberal if you don't hold these two contradictory positions, unflinchingly and to the death"

2019-02-05 04:43:41 UTC  

“Ok”

2019-02-05 04:45:26 UTC  

Sorry if I'm just posting too much of this at this point but it's funny.

2019-02-05 04:45:27 UTC  

BASED

2019-02-05 04:45:55 UTC  

This is another one he did, which I actually thought was pretty clever. He was arguing with me about something and he was like "you say family is important, but... " My natural instinct was to say "I didn't say that". Not that I was arguing that it's *un*important, it's just that... I didn't say that. This gave him an excuse to freak out and be like "so you're saying it's not important?!?!?!"

2019-02-05 04:46:15 UTC  

tpuk is struggling to find white people to quote I guess

2019-02-05 04:46:52 UTC  

His argument tactics are so Talmudic lmao

2019-02-05 04:47:06 UTC  

@Jacob Collectivism and socialism aren't bad, as long as it's not Marxism

2019-02-05 04:48:03 UTC  

NeoCons, Dubya, and Israel-Firsters not only soured me on the right wing for fifteen years it also contributed to my early/mid 2000s fedora atheist phase.

2019-02-05 04:48:29 UTC  

@ophiuchus Shouldn't a strawman actually be kind of hard to detect, though? He literally makes up quotes by me and tells me that I said them. What exactly does that accomplish when I can just say I didn't say that?

2019-02-05 04:48:57 UTC  

A strawman is just framing the argument as something it isn’t, that thing it isn’t being easier to topple

2019-02-05 04:49:31 UTC  

ya but I mean strawmen should be convincing

2019-02-05 04:49:42 UTC  

Eh

2019-02-05 04:49:45 UTC  

It’s like

2019-02-05 04:49:51 UTC  

Now I realize that I didn't hate God, or my nation. I hated people using both for their own interests against our own.

2019-02-05 04:49:51 UTC  

A logical integral transform

2019-02-05 04:50:35 UTC  

my dad would actually make a really good shitposter

2019-02-05 04:51:02 UTC  

I should make him a Twitter account and follow a bunch of irony bros

2019-02-05 04:51:41 UTC  

Your dad should go on chapo

2019-02-05 04:53:34 UTC  

he should debate Richard Spencer

2019-02-05 04:54:00 UTC  

"Mr Spencer, you say you're a conservative, but..."

2019-02-05 04:54:01 UTC  

Jacob's dad debates RS on Chapo

2019-02-05 04:55:09 UTC  

You say that the demographics will doom the GOP, but can you explain this BASED black guy?

2019-02-05 04:58:21 UTC  

honestly though I'm kinda glad I had the opportunity to debate my dad growing up

2019-02-05 04:58:31 UTC  

makes it much easier to stay calm

2019-02-05 04:59:36 UTC  

he just *constantly* straw mans and flings ad hominems so most leftists actually seem pretty chill in comparison

2019-02-05 05:00:31 UTC  

"Jacob, you say you're a dreamer, but you're not the only one"

2019-02-05 05:00:52 UTC  

“Son, you say you’re Jacob,”

2019-02-05 05:03:46 UTC  

I don't why people use that graph to say that Republics are further left on economics

2019-02-05 05:04:04 UTC  

doesn't it look that way because of the way the margins are drawn?

2019-02-05 05:05:24 UTC  

you could just as easily put a bunch of blank space on the left and arbitrarily draw the center further left

2019-02-05 05:05:40 UTC  

@Nemets saving to hard drive now.

2019-02-05 05:05:42 UTC  

thanks

2019-02-05 05:06:47 UTC  

look at all that socially conservative blue

2019-02-05 05:07:07 UTC  

more than liberal red

2019-02-05 05:10:32 UTC  

I think that graph is telling that the overton window needs to be shifted more to the right 😎

2019-02-05 05:10:53 UTC  

economically, though?

2019-02-05 05:11:02 UTC  

idk if were really on that graph

2019-02-05 05:11:21 UTC  

were on the z axis

2019-02-05 05:11:43 UTC  

We’re an eclectic group, for sure. I don’t have to underscore the commonality for you though.