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@Jacob but not le communism duh

Communism is the big ghey.

Communists be like, "Let's get this brea- oh..."

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Communism is bad but the whole thing about Eastern Europe starving like Africa is an exaggeration tbh

@Jacob To an extent I get how you could say you dislike large multinational corporations in some sectors

Idk, mixed economy keeps both segments from growing too large

The hysteria around communism, to a large extent, was used to justify immigration

“No government 0 restrictions free market” = “oh so 5 companies are the government now”

It certainly is an exaggeration after 1950, the USSR citisens were very malnourished until recent years, not quite starving to *death,* but I get your point man

the reason I don't like that narrative is that it kind of defames my people's history in a way

I think we should admit our mistakes in history, but I don't think we should make it sound like we had an entire period where all we did was fail

Unrestricted capitalism is also the big ghey <:varg:359010745192808449>
@Jacob Warsaw and the Polish hussars are pretty cool my man

In a way I kind of admire the way Russians are unapologetic about the Soviet Union

I agree, too, I don't like admitting that England is heavily cucked, or that Germany created Weimar in the 1900s and then Weimerica in 1950

Russians being proud or at least unashamed of the Soviet Union >>>>>>> brits apologizing for ruling 1/4 of the earth

I think the "Stalin dindu nuffin" narrative is a bit too far, but they should take pride in the good parts of that era and not exaggerate the bad parts

Jacob takes a stance against tankies

I suppose nobody has ever held them accountable for USSR war crimes, though, nobody marched into Russia after WWII and did stuff to 2 million Russian women and babies and bombed civilian cities. I think their mindset would be different, had they been held accountable for everything.

Asides from Bolshevik Jews wanting to overthrow the Tsars, one should recognize that the Tsars were pretty stagnant and inbred like most European monarchies. They were just ass backwards until Peter the Great so got the revolution later.

the tsars were really bad

a lot of people downplay it because they think tsars = based anti-communists

but the truth is that before the Bolshevik Revolution life expectancies and literacy were lower and infant mortality was higher

by pretty big amounts

Unironically bolshevikism was founded by New Yorker bankers which is odd to me.

ya it was definitely done with the intention to subvert

but I mean ask yourself why people supported the Bolsheviks so easily

I mean, doing something for the majority of the Russian people > doing nothing at all

Russian peasants were barely considered human by their ruling class

exactly
communism wasn't good, but to a typical peasant it probably looked like an obvious improvement to getting ruled over by feudal lords in the 20th century

People do not necessarily know what they are going to get when they overthrow an old order for a new one. I also do not expect peasant farmers to understand economics.

I want to say serfdom wasn’t officially abolished in Russia until the 1850s or so

I don't know, I think a lot more people died with Bolsheviks than with the first ruling government after the revolution. The first ruling party wasn't actually violent at all, besides the revolution, but then they were killed by the Bolsheviks.

It is sadly unfortunate

I mean, be honest. Most countries in Africa were objectively better off when run by whites too- but you weren’t going to convince the people of that. The powerless feeling that comes with being excluded from political participation doesn’t allow for rationalization of the situation.

Early Leninism was just utter economic nonsense, so much so that not even the most deranged antifa would support it. It was done out of spite. Well because ya know.

I don't know if I would even say they made a mistake. Communism may very well have been an improvement over feudalism.

That's true. They did the same thing in Germany as well, when using strife and struggle to gain influence on a personal level. It's where Antifa comes from, actually, and they're still around today, from the old 1930 German Communist party as an act of civil revolutionaries

Communism is definitely not the ideal economic system- but it was almost inevitable that *something* of its nature took the place of a system in which 20,000,000 people were legally owned.

This is a bs meme but it is funny