I would support a white, anti-war Democratic candidate who made Trump-esque border security and immigration reform his big issue along with things like student loan forgiveness.

@missliterallywho student loan forgiveness would be huge

Any trade or blue collar useful student debt be forgiven. Trades are more useful than gender dance studies.

Only if it came with equivalent reform of college price gouging and loan ease. The colleges are making a fortune off of government subsidies mixed with easy loans. And the colleges (most) are our enemy, sadly.

That's the truth.

anyone free to do me a favor and hop into voice chat?

I am afraid i may have broken my headphones

nevermind. Crisis averted

Im in voice chat

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/aitlqf/if_liberals_talking_about_shoving_the_maga_kids/?utm_source=reddit-android

Give it a boost

Are members allowed to "sit in" in the pledge hall & listen to the proceedings?

Whos doing that ?

@Johnny B. Populus absolutely. It’s a good refresher of what we’re about.

Nick Sandmann appeared on Today show and said he is not apologizing https://www.today.com/video/preview-nick-sandmann-speaks-to-today-s-savannah-guthrie-1430181955997

When is the next orientation?

tonight i thinks?

there a "Ian" in that pledge hall

Oops. Meant to ask this in the pledge hall. Sorry. Thanks though @Lawrence of Eurabia

Huh? I'm here

yes Ian we see that your here

You're *

u'r

your @Albo Greychak - MI

Your , You're

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LohWNUrqpus

love this guy 😃

Got some student J1 here from Brazil. They're young normies that disdain him but the older ones love him.

He made a speech were he declares war on drug dealers .......I love the guy

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/22/nathan-phillips-tried-disrupt-basilica-national-sh/

Okay this is epic

The Keeper of the Sacred Pipe strikes again

God this Covington Catholic incident has my blood boiling. Anything we're planning to do for that boy and his family? Seems like they need some money and words of support.

@Ryonne Mr. Lovecraft. We have done a call in wave for today & I will do it again tomorrow. Trump is meeting with the whole group tomorrow. Media is retracting stories like they had the plague. This entire situation is burning the left alive.

I have been looking for a way to contact Sandman directly but have found no avenue to do that as of yet.

God bless. The whole situation has been exploding since I've been in class and at the gym. Every day brings another reason for the Old Ones to reawaken.

i never thought the crusades would start with a boomer indian banging a drum in a kid's face over a hat lol

Literally gonna happen. Nothing has demonstrated more to me the hatred the left has for all white people.

@Danimal876 could you send me a message when you are free please?

Did you guys see the aricle cover calling for the maga kid to be thrown in a wood chipper?

It's sickening haha truly amazing

guessing the account is still active. no double standards, right?

All that calling for violence is being collected for what appears to be a court case. This situation has gotten well out of leftist control.

I saw a bit of that. I hope it moves forward.

@Johnny B. Populus I saw a video of the list being scrolled through and Ben Shapiro was right up there with Kathy Griffin. Really hope he gets ***served***

Woodchipper joke guy might get fired last I heard

@Logan This situation has turned into a thermonuclear redpill for "hesistant" whites. I'm so very happy this event occured.

Soros and company can't control their rabid pets

@TylerHess Thank God, the leftists have exposed themselves again to the entire nation. No-one & I mean no one with any logic at all isn't redpilled by this. Even my normies acquaintances/coworkers today showed a bit of "Eureka" about this situation.

lots of liberal mothers realized that this could happen to their sons

Hello

been off awhile been so busy with work/stomach flu/internet break. should be on more now

@american_frankenstein have you got to know your local group? SoCal right?

a little online but not in person yet. our schedules didnt work for meeting for the interview before i could do chapter meets and i just took a little break from online stuff. would like to get to know the SoCal members but also might be moving as well

would like to get to meet people out here before i go, moving has been so up in the air

i have to talk to them again about it so i can.

@american_frankenstein where to? We've had a streak of CA guys moving to MT and ID

maybe back to WI or possibly CO. im not sure yet, actually looking into a few states

CO has been on fire lately

so sick of the craziness in CA. would have been gone by now but my room mate is having mental health issues so yeah.

oof. that's nice of you to help him out.

oh has it? i wanted to move to CO first but its becoming too liberal and is doing that agenda 21 crap with the smart cities

thinking back home to WI. are there many WI members here?

oh when is that meet up in spring?

i think i see like one WI guy lol. well if i do move back to WI i could recruit and build a wi chapter 😄

nvm im seeing more

Hey guys I have an interesting take. Kinda how I feel about the Gillette ad. They know this is gonna make people angry and they may suffer some losses but overall it works for their plan to push and further normalize the anti white agenda

They're fine with 2 steps forward 1 step back

it's really dumb how liberals are blaming the incident on the Hebrew Israelites now
they admitted that the kid wasn't in the wrong, but they don't want to blame the "native elder" either
so they're blaming the Hebrew Israelites

"Strike and Mike" has a good talk about tactics and pushing back on narratives. It's a good episode.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/nyregion/michael-cohen-otisville-prison.html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage

How is this real hahaha

Haha they didn’t let Bernie madoff in because he stole from the tribe

The entire article is quotes from various jewish white collar criminals talking about how cushy the prison is and how every jew makes sure they get this prison

It's like straight out of the daily stormer

Yeah that's right, madoff robbed various jewish charities from what i recall

Probably make awesome connections lol

Come out and can start some new gig with your friends from (((prison)))

Oh yeah, the networking in that place has gotta be better than a skull and bones 1975 reunion

I still don't understand why the original narrative of the Catholic kid thing required 10x the usual virtue signaling

Gillette is doing it because unfortunately “building a better mousetrap” doesn’t work anymore. Buyers want to know that you’re like them. I heard those exact words From a creative director at a major ad agency

It’s both financial and ideological

And sadly it actually does work

I’ve seen the numbers. Rich leftists respond by throwing money at them.

"Over the years, federal officials have 'sort of carved this place out as a special location to put Jewish inmates,' said Benjamin Brafman, a prominent defense lawyer who has represented numerous defendants who have requested Otisville.

There are kosher vending machines in the visiting room. The prison commissary sells skullcaps for $6 and offers a kosher selection that includes matzo, gefilte fish, rugelach and seltzer."

You can't make this shit up

@Nemets I remember people saying that they were in the past

@MPI - VA striker is great dude he has some spicy takes for sure. His knowledge from his previous days as a leftist are really interesting

Striker can sperg out but the truth is he's an extremely knowledgeable dude, probably the most eloquent strasserist type I've seen

He'll sometimes just spew random facts and numbers leaving me skeptical if they're right, but when I fact-check him, he's always right

@Current Ronin saw earlier you said you don’t like Nick Fuentes bc of his creepy smile lol. Remind you of anyone?

that doesn't really look like Nick's smile

@Current Ronin The thing about whites who don't have racial Stockholm know that our views are correct deep down where they don't talk about. Mothers most of all will be one of the greatest "activists" in this. A white mother & her white children shant be **cked with. White mother's(to their own credit) get vicious when their children are even perceived to be in danger. The anti-white agenda is blatantly exposed here so that no white crypto-traveler could ever ignore it. IE will be at the forefront in this, as we rightly belong. Our optic & message is undeniably logical & peaceful. We are not anti-X we are Pro-Euro.

Same energy

I remember when he was on twitter insisting that TWP was the future of dissident politics in America.

Nick is pretty obnoxious though tbh @VinceChaos

Like a week before the famous box incident. lol

but I don't think it's the smile

Really I think he’s a kid and he’s irreverent it’s entertaining

I think he's smart but childish

The Catholic kid looks like he's slowly dying inside tbh

Nick is a king dont punch right bro

@Papa Pizzagate Nick said that?

@Jacob Nick has a lot of growing up to do still, but he has come a long way in the past year. I still find his thinking rather boolean and stubborn, but he's a sharp tack. I am a reluctant nick respecter.

That's a shocker

@ExternalPepsi No, eric striker did.

Ah ok

Yeah, nick isn't that stupid, thankfully.

I watched a couple highlights I think he has some good takes.

@Papa Pizzagate ya I get that
He's definitely intelligent

I saw him in a debate and thought he was rude and annoying

He's definitely not dumb though

I thought his explanation of the office of special plans was good

Who does? We're talking about two different people here.

nick fuentes

I also don't think Nick's optics are as good as he thinks they are

It's kinda hard to describe

He tries to sound like a boomer sometimes, and you can tell it's fake

Nick’s optics will never be good enough to disassociate him from Cville.

Yeah, he is certainly intelligent and I enjoy his content. His greatest deficit is his personality, frankly. He's very prickly and has this sense of not elitism but... self importance (?) that alienates people. He's gotten better over the past year, and I suspect he will continue to improve.

Ya I mean I was kind of a dick in high school, too

so it's understandable

Fuentes is a rung or two above " Just read Culture of Critique" material.

@DeusVolk He might not ever be a mainstream figure, but given how well Alex jones is doing, financially despite his deplatforming , I'd say there is a market and good potential for the kid.

He’s young. Things to learn!

He's still halfway past Phase 1 "Triggering" stuff.

@Papa Pizzagate tbh I think Nick blew up to quick and thus he thinks he is the greatest

depending on how much alt-media will be allowed to thrive.

Nick has like 1/10th the subscribers that James has despite being more moderate. I think that shows he's been a pretty big failure at optics.

oh and he has content like every day

Wasn’t there a specific incident that made him infamous? Or did Jewish Daily Wire just discover his views?

?

Views sorry

Why You Should Keep Your Kid Off Social Media Until He's 25: The Nick Fuentes Story

@Papa Pizzagate The media situation, both mainstream and alternative, is up in the air. I would love to see him accrue a mass appeal. Time will tell I suppose.

Indeed.

Lots of moving parts

I remember the first time I heard Nick was on his podcast with James when they had Richard Spencer on. Even with Richard Spencer, Nick still came off as the dislikeable one.

I disagree, but I can see why someone would feel that way!

I have reservations about the "video chat debate" thing. It's useful on some level but ultimately comes off as "YouTuber Mudslinging".

@VinceChaos haha! Okay..you got me there

I wish I could remember the details of the podcast

"TariqNasheed BTFO"....who cares.

did blood sports die out or are they still a thing?

I thought they were kinda fun, but they were way too long for me to ever keep up with

@Jacob Nick plays fornite stop opressing gamers

Yikes

@Albo Greychak - MI that was your last contribution to this chat as well.

Just like the Catholic boys, young boys can come off as not just irreverent but rude and disrespectful despite not really doing anything specifically “wrong”

Not bloodsports but long streams for sure

lol Nick did plenty of stuff specifically wrong

I’m sure he did tho I forget what they are

Like now tho he’s irreverent

James used to do long streams too but never really came off as obnoxious

James is older

barely

Nick is an obnoxious, smug prick

A couple years makes a difference when you’re that young

I'd rather listen to Spencer any day over Nick

lol honestly this ^

Lmao

https://youtu.be/B8qsG_6bQ_8

I found the stream

I'd rather listen to neither, frankly. But I am a reluctant nicker.

Yikes

Nickers unite

Hello yikes department

less yikes than supporting a charlatan like Spencer in 2019 tbh...

just to be clear I don't "support" Spencer

I just think pretty much anyone has a more likeable personality than Nick

Fuentes has pretty solid talking points at times. Other than the fact that he is a creationist.

oh God he's a creationist?

lmao

I said I'd rather listen to Spencer over a nihilistic 19 year old irony bro...dont see how that means I "support" him

I mean I guess I do if he's saying the right things

The knives have it

I understand that viewpoint, and frankly Nick can be unlikeable- but as far as a movement or figure is concerned, guys like RS have destroyed every semblance of respectability they may have had at one point.

Unlikeable, different opinions, and ironic jokes. Sounds like a good time

Like sure, Nick can come off as pretentious, but at least he doesn't have a trail of broken relationships with everyone (trust me, literally just about EVERYONE) on the right in America.

@Papa Pizzagate are you pro or anti spencer?

@Current Ronin
What do you think?

Like just about everyone who has spent any amount of time around Richard...

@Papa Pizzagate
Nick also has a bad history with people though

He was in IE at one point...

I mean we all have broken relationships with our past but unlike Spencer they’re usually not our fault

Was he?

Yeah

To take a wignat talking point - Richard spencer has been kicked out of 109 friendships, but trust me - none of them were his fault.

Yeesh...

lol I remember when Nick was in IE

AFAIK he never settled dues

He must have been barely 18

Could be mis-remembering.

Richard at least has interesting talking points

Was there a falling out with spencer and the trs guys? I remember spencer was a pretty regular guest on tds

Yeah, weird.

No

Spencer has his own channel now. Heel Turn

@Josh M. -OHyeah I've been watching it. I actually dig it from what I've seen so far. Just the last 3 episodes

Not just him. Lots of other people streaming on that channel.

Like most every endeavor in his life, I will give it 6-10 months until implosion.

Heel Turn is great.

Don't you find it a bit "white nationalism 1.0"?

Meh, everything has flaws. I certainly dont agree with everything said.

The discussions are worth watching.

I actually don't think we should shun everything "1.0"

Maybe not everything, but certainly the lions share.

*grabs popcorn*

Better 1.0 than trad Cath 😂

We shouldn't shun anything imo. At the most ignore it. No counter signaling from me.

I mean we shouldn't be publicly involved with 1.0 stuff, but I've met people who used to be part of stuff like National Alliance and we can still talk to these people and share our experiences

@Albo Greychak - MI What is wrong with being a traditionalist catholic?

Yikes

@Jacob wow the national alliance still exists?

Not sure why it’s ok to be disparaging being Catholic unless you want to explain why that’s a yikes

well, actually, yes, it does, but that wasn't my point
I know a guy who was involved in National Alliance way back in the 90s
He's a fan of IE and totally understands why we do things the way we do

most of the members left the group a while ago

it's not what it used to be

Yeah it has to evolve. Not gonna lie there's some stuff from 2016 that's pretty cringe haha

@Papa Pizzagate To be fair, I think they would break server rules if they attempted an answer to that question

The "movement" has evolved but has always been around.

Yeah, let's move this conversation in a different direction, please.

Nothing of course. Being a trad Cath is perfectly respectable

A lot of 1.0 groups including LOTS has some real “bro what tf were you thinking?” Moments. People like that are inundated in White Nationalism and live in an echo chamber.

I didn't know we had irony bros in IE

So how about them FBI crime statistics

@Sam Andersonp some people have different ideas of how to move forward. All have good reasons and their own merits.

Remember when calling someone a fashy goy was cool? ...yeesh

haha

We talked about that at the NA Christmas party

I don't think we should disparage everyone who was involved in 1.0. We have to remember that these guys grew up in a time where it was much more difficult to find an outlet for what they felt. Being isolated like that makes people do regrettable things.

Ghost of IE past (cringe) ghost of IE present, ghost of IE future

Who even is 1.0? The founding fathers?

David duke

I am a bit older and less cooler than the rest of you, so what was trending a year or two ago is still new to me.

William pierce

Technically they are “white elders” haha

James mason

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Howdy Identitarians

Yooo the story with the Indian drumming hoax and everyone saying “elder”.....why has everyone been using that term is it in their talking points they spread around

yuck, yeah.

let's not go down that road.

Didn't it all start with David lane?

the magician?

Founding fathers were talking about the same shit.

They are a completely separate movement from anything I am a part of.

Tbh Rockwell was the OG

@Kingfish David Copperfield will magically change America