Hey there! It's Ian in Cali.

I'll get an avatar up shortly!

I had an old account with discord I just located and re-activated.

Avatar up. Henry the Navigator.

Hey all!

@Current Ronin I work in advertising and film so I get it big time. It's a mess here. I have to hide like a criminal just because I like our history.

It gets even worse in the belly of the beast. You should hear what they say when the doors are closed and casting begins.

It red pilled me harder than any mem or MSM article.

*meme

It’s hard to play nice when they want you dead. The “appearance” of playing nice though seems useful. The left did that for a long time before they shifted.

We learn in reality TV that it’s all about narrative framing

It doesn’t matter what’s actually happening in front of the camera... just frame it right and you made it true. If that makes sense.

Only if it came with equivalent reform of college price gouging and loan ease. The colleges are making a fortune off of government subsidies mixed with easy loans. And the colleges (most) are our enemy, sadly.

Huh? I'm here

Hey there!

Gillette is doing it because unfortunately “building a better mousetrap” doesn’t work anymore. Buyers want to know that you’re like them. I heard those exact words From a creative director at a major ad agency

It’s both financial and ideological

And sadly it actually does work

I’ve seen the numbers. Rich leftists respond by throwing money at them.

Good morning! Quick question... who is the Los Angeles coordinator? Thanks!

Thanks!

Glad to be here.

Aha

Great idea

So I have a bit of insider info. Probably best this isn't widely shared. My buddy's company just received boards for a new set of Gillette ads and they're apolitical. I'm not sure if this is blowback or planned but usually when a campaign is successful they do more.

My buddy is happy because even though he isn't an identitarian per se he hates making political spots and has been a victim of some metoo crap

@apronandlace Exactly. Though what they did is a widely accepted advertising "style" now. people don't care if a product is god, they care if the product supports their globalism.

*good

It's so strange. Consumers soured on the idea of quality products and instead embraced this sort of hyper lifestyle aspirational political nonsense

@apronandlace Yup. Unfortunately though they've been clearing out male directors and especially white males. Go take a look at the rosters of the top 10 production companies. Lots of women and lots of minorities.

@apronandlace 3/4 of my boards that i bid on have social justice in them.

There is a major recession coming into film and tv now too. It's just now being felt by minor companies and independent contractors. I suspect they'll use this to layoff lots of men and white people. When they rehire afterward they'll hire using diversity quotas. Remember I said this...

I was actually told by a client once that i had too many white people so I hired a bunch of minority PA's. Needless to say he wasn't happy. When I mentioned that have my crew was jewish he said that didn't count.

*half

I'm still flabbergasted this conversation even happened but they're bolder now and that client is a "friend"

@Rick Flair They call it positive discrimination.

I'm not even kidding. I've heard the term used in board rooms at major ad aganecies in LA

Jesus

tahts bad

*thats

I assumed engineering jobs would be immune for a while

I know that I'm a dead man walking in film

When it's over we'll all be answering to lesbian minority women

And I definitely don't have a problem with women but I do have a problem with this

I'm trying to use my advertising knowledge to move into ecommerce

Funny enough I'll be selling to my enemy but all money is green so I'll take it

@JoeDrake Our own version of Kosher

I'm planning on talking with LA members about getting them on my sets. I have to be very very careful but I can definitely make that happen.

And if my ecommerce business works out I can hire whomever I like

@fgtveassassin Because we stoked conflict in Ukraine. It's retaliatory.

We have slav servers?

It hasn't been reported but there have been layoffs in ad agencies as well. Deutsch just had a huge round of layoffs.

I know because it's been hurting my business directly

Good news/bad news lol

As a new member for what it's worth I really appreciate that IE doesn't promote or allow actual extremism. Some of us don't want to be associated with the crazies. (and I don't mean rational identitarians)

I get that the left calls everybody crazy but there's still people who are objectively crazy like that Indian guy

His sort of activism sucks

@Danimal876 Maybe instead of Democracy we back the traditional Republicanism of our forefathers. Democracy= Mobs.

Our forefathers and the ancient Greeks both warned against "democracy" after it failed.

@Danimal876 In terms of optics yes but in terms of actual substance Democracy will overwhelm us. It's purely a numbers game.

Actual Democracy got us here. The voter roles get larger and larger and accept everybody. We're being voted out of existence

Yes but it got too big. people who own nothing will vote for anything

And I'm no elitist. I come from poverty.

The founding fathers knew this would happen. they wrote about it

@Danimal876 On that I can agree 100%

@Josh M. -OH No kidding. It's legal to knowingly infect somebody with HIV but illegal to serve plastic straws. Homeless have overrun LA in all areas except where the ultra-rich live.

@Josh M. -OH It's against California law (per the AG) to report illegal workers to ICE.

@Josh M. -OH And I don't get minority benefits for being white despite being a minority.

@Josh M. -OH There are more Republicans numerically in CA than any other state.

@Josh M. -OH We've been verrun.

*overrun

@Josh M. -OH And to make matters worse it's white republicans who bring them in for cheap wages on their farms

@Josh M. -OH I know this from personal experience.

@Johnny B. Populus I was an intern for Weinstein many years ago...ohhh the stories I know.....

@Johnny B. Populus Not kidding at all. If we're ever at a meetup together I have stories that'll make your skin crawl. I've worked in Hollywood for a decade.

@Johnny B. Populus There are some good people. But boy are there some bad ones and not for the reasons you would think.

@Valaska LOPF? I'm new here so I'm still not totally caught up.

Yeah, I think I'm nearly graduated. Did the orientation and interviews.

IE is a classy org

I met McCain. Worked on his campaign until the Bush people came in and pushed out the populist wave that supported him.

@VinceChaos No. Hollywood has been turning hard and targeting people who supported Trump. It's beginning to hit hard so I decided that it was time to act.

They're purging anybody who isn't diverse enough

It's insanity

And so ridiculously unfair to people who have been in the industry for decades

If you're a man then #metoo want to get you... if you're not diverse then diversity wants to get you

*wants

@VinceChaos Yes.

@VinceChaos I'm a producer. Not an A lister but I've done films with stars, commercials on TV, etc

@VinceChaos Though I've worked on big ones in a slightly lesser capacity as an assitant

*assistant

@VinceChaos I've worked for about a decade or so.

@Logan Most people close to me loved it. I enjoyed it. Some of my colleagues and acquaintances hated it. You know, there are far more right leaning people than you would think here

@VinceChaos Some "people" aren't bad. Some are so evil you'd lose your mind.

But remember thats its NOT ALL. As hard as that can be to believe.

There are good people caught in the mess here. Hiding because the mob is ruthless.

Yes

Very true

But when they're bad they're really bad

It is

Exactly. And I think we have to remain compassionate to friends