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2018-11-16 07:26:48 UTC

I could not, for the life of me, tell the Navajo apart on the reservation in Arizona.

2018-11-16 07:26:57 UTC

Also, I think Bernie endorsed her and some whites wanted to send a message to the Wall St democrat establishment

2018-11-16 07:26:59 UTC

I just can't imagine her being that dumb and getting into Congress at 29. Maybe she's just young and bad with interviews?

2018-11-16 07:27:16 UTC

I don't think OC is the near-term future of the party. Her and one other woman in Massachusettes are the only people who usurped incumbants

2018-11-16 07:27:30 UTC

"I get bad grades cause I'm bad at tests" <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-11-16 07:28:01 UTC

It seems like one or two districts where the representative was decades out of sync with the constituent demographics, an easy pick-up.

2018-11-16 07:28:35 UTC

OC is 100% the future of the Democrat party. Look at the winners this time around. Gay jews, Muslims who marry their brothers, and dumb Hispanic Socialists.

2018-11-16 07:28:57 UTC

LMAO this is who she defeated

2018-11-16 07:29:01 UTC

Yeah but like how many? 10? There's 230 Democrats

2018-11-16 07:29:07 UTC

This honestly makes me pretty happy

2018-11-16 07:29:16 UTC

why? she beat a white man

2018-11-16 07:29:22 UTC

literally the future of America

2018-11-16 07:29:29 UTC

It will take some time, but districts will increasingly sort by demographics and majority minority districts tend to elect minorities. The future of the dems is Cortez, not Clinton

2018-11-16 07:29:51 UTC

She defeated a dumb self-hating white guy who thought he would escape the effects of diversity. It's hilarious. He totally had it coming. @Asatru Artist - MD

2018-11-16 07:29:54 UTC

@TMatthews maybe but it sounds like something that won't happen in our or our children's lives

2018-11-16 07:30:12 UTC

Seriously this is great

2018-11-16 07:30:21 UTC

Democrats choices coming back to haunt them

2018-11-16 07:30:28 UTC

"he had it coming" literally the same attitude the left has towards white men @Jacob

2018-11-16 07:30:55 UTC

I don't completely disagree with your sentiment, but they are taking us down with them.

2018-11-16 07:31:13 UTC

This guy supports OUR dispossession, but instead he ended up suffering the consequences

2018-11-16 07:31:18 UTC

@ThisIsChris I disagree. America will be majority nonwhite by the 2040s at this rate and the electorate will be only 10-20 years behind. Almost half of democrat primary voters are already nonwhite and it would be more if their turnout wasn't so low

2018-11-16 07:31:20 UTC

Yeah but not all white people are our ally. Our goal is to help them in the long run but if a confused one is taken out of power that seems fine.

2018-11-16 07:31:43 UTC

We want white Democrats to be disaffected

2018-11-16 07:31:58 UTC

We want white Democrats to be as blackpilled as possible and really regret what they did

2018-11-16 07:32:11 UTC

That guy won't admit to himself or anyone else why he lost, come on guys.

2018-11-16 07:32:33 UTC

We have former Bernie supporters in IE

2018-11-16 07:32:38 UTC

Democrats are actively driving white men out of the party. Our job is to welcome them with open arms and a real alternative that isn't Bush conservatism

2018-11-16 07:32:40 UTC

@TMatthews yes exactly America will be majority nonwhite by 2040s, but minorities have low voter turnout *and* they will have to wait until those minorities are 18 in order to vote so whites will be the majority of voters likely for the rest of our natural lives

2018-11-16 07:32:59 UTC

And I mean, even if he doesn't get it, he's an example for other people

2018-11-16 07:33:16 UTC

>IE member
>Bernie (jew) supporter
๐Ÿค”

2018-11-16 07:33:21 UTC

very strange...

2018-11-16 07:33:31 UTC

*former*

2018-11-16 07:33:31 UTC

@ThisIsChris Nonwhites will be a majority of voters by 2060 if not sooner at current rates, which is well within my lifetime

2018-11-16 07:33:43 UTC

they still supported a jew

2018-11-16 07:34:02 UTC

Crowley is a heavy critic of President Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.โ€“Mexico border and his decision to end DACA and Temporary Protected Status protection for qualifying immigrants in 2017.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

> support immigration
> get your job taken by an immigrant

2018-11-16 07:34:02 UTC

they can identify that way all they want, but they don't vote in our interests

2018-11-16 07:34:20 UTC

Ya they supported one, but people do change

2018-11-16 07:34:38 UTC

@TMatthews yeah in the 2060s that sounds right that nonwhites will finally be a majority of the voting age population, but they still have lower voter turnout that whites. They will need to be a super majority for us to really lose power in politics

2018-11-16 07:34:42 UTC

it is funny that the white guy that supports immigration got replaced by one, ill admit

2018-11-16 07:34:48 UTC

ya exactly

2018-11-16 07:34:54 UTC

So that adds a few more decades of waiting

2018-11-16 07:35:02 UTC

If nothing is done about demographics before we're a minority, having a slim majority of the electorate means nothing. I'd also note that the "whites become a minority in 2043" projection includes Jews and Arabs as white, so it's likely sooner

2018-11-16 07:35:55 UTC

Unless whites vote with the kind of uniformity blacks do, less than 60% white = permanent left wing majority

2018-11-16 07:36:17 UTC

What if Castizos are accepted more and more as white? Some of them are already indistinguishable and if they intermarry with other whites then their children really will be white.

2018-11-16 07:36:19 UTC

God

2018-11-16 07:36:23 UTC

2043 isn't even far away

2018-11-16 07:36:40 UTC

Additionally, as the left wins, they'll make it easier to vote, remove restrictions on felons voting, and possibly even let non-citizens vote, exacerbating the electoral trend

2018-11-16 07:36:55 UTC

You have 25 years to do as much activism as possible

2018-11-16 07:37:23 UTC

If Castizos assimilate into white america that is going to give us a few more decades as well.

2018-11-16 07:38:04 UTC

I still hope Trump wins in 2020, prompting California to secede. That would buy us more time in the other 48 (Hawaii has never been white)

2018-11-16 07:38:10 UTC

Crowley remained on the general election ballot under the Working Families Party line. Ocasio-Cortez called on Crowley to take his name off the ballot, but he responded that he could not unless he moved, died, was convicted of a felony, or filed to run for another office in November as a paper candidate (which he claims would be a form of electoral fraud).

This is so embarrasing

"take your name off the ballot, bitch"
"I would but I can't do it, master"

2018-11-16 07:38:20 UTC

Once the left has enough power, they will take away our ability to protect ourselves permanently so we are at their mercy.

2018-11-16 07:38:36 UTC

@TMatthews I wish that would happen but I think California knows they have enough power to take the whole country without having to give up anything

2018-11-16 07:39:01 UTC

they are already doing that with "red flag laws" where due process is out the window.

2018-11-16 07:39:48 UTC

If Trump makes redistricting based on citizens rather than total population, that would weaken California and diverse cities in general

2018-11-16 07:39:58 UTC

luckily the Asians are already becoming the new white people in the oppression pyramid

2018-11-16 07:40:08 UTC

That's a real possibility but it doesn't fix the trend

2018-11-16 07:40:20 UTC

welcome Asians! it was a nice run as a POC while it lasted, wasn't it?

2018-11-16 07:40:46 UTC

I'll be honest, it'll be an amazing feat if we can save our future. We really need to work hard. Don't get too whitepilled and complacent.

2018-11-16 07:40:50 UTC

POC already treat them like whites it seems

2018-11-16 07:40:59 UTC

The GOP could maybe win some Asians over by playing up issues like affirmative action and dropping the religiosity

2018-11-16 07:41:03 UTC

because they know they are more successful than the others

2018-11-16 07:41:12 UTC

That would be incredibly interesting if POC turn against Asians and start calling them oppressors

2018-11-16 07:41:25 UTC

i mean where would be the lie?

2018-11-16 07:41:54 UTC

yeah, we don't want to ally with Asians, they will replace us quick (in power i mean)

2018-11-16 07:42:35 UTC

good night guys ๐Ÿ’ค

2018-11-16 07:42:36 UTC

They call subcons "blacks with brains"

2018-11-16 07:42:38 UTC

idk man I'd rather have Subcons than Zulus

2018-11-16 07:42:47 UTC

maybe Khoisan would be okay

2018-11-16 07:43:01 UTC

In the long run, we're better off with Zulus

2018-11-16 07:43:08 UTC

that's what's great about them @Nemets

2018-11-16 07:43:35 UTC

hmmm I think you're right

2018-11-16 07:43:37 UTC

@Jacob after you graduate that will 100% not be true. indians will compete with you for jobs, housing, kids' schoooling, etc. you won't live near bantus anymore, barely think of them

2018-11-16 07:43:38 UTC

not sure about Bantus though

2018-11-16 07:44:18 UTC

@ThisIsChris That's actually a good point

2018-11-16 07:44:26 UTC

Ideally we get none, but low iq immigrants are largely kept segregated of their own accord

2018-11-16 07:44:36 UTC

ya I agree I was memeing

2018-11-16 07:45:05 UTC

one time my dad was like "okay I get being against black and Hispanic immigration but Asians don't cause problems"

2018-11-16 07:45:14 UTC

and I was like <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-11-16 07:45:33 UTC

Also, higher iq nonwhites are more likely to race mix with whites. IQ nationalism isn't nationalism at all

2018-11-16 07:46:36 UTC

@Jacob Asian-White Alliance fym

2018-11-16 07:47:25 UTC

I'm against assimilation because it makes mixing easier. I think the biggest flaw of European right wingers is the fixation on the most visible aspects of Islam, as if Copenhagen turning brown is fine so long as there aren't any burkas

2018-11-16 07:48:48 UTC

I like and respect Asians, but they need to stay in their homelands

2018-11-16 07:49:00 UTC

Oh, absolutely. Assimilation is not preferable at all.

2018-11-16 07:49:20 UTC

Serves him right, he trusted a *Subcon*

2018-11-16 07:50:16 UTC

huh I wonder why

2018-11-16 07:52:41 UTC

is that actually what it's about? @Nemets

2018-11-16 07:56:42 UTC

According to Zyuganov, Jesus Christ was the first communist, claiming the Bible may be read through a socialist perspective.

2018-11-16 08:03:11 UTC

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2018-11-16 08:03:22 UTC

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2018-11-16 08:04:59 UTC

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2018-11-16 08:53:15 UTC

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2018-11-16 08:53:20 UTC

Sunset in Sacramento

2018-11-16 09:00:53 UTC

F

2018-11-16 09:06:03 UTC

Have a good night everyone.

2018-11-16 09:12:49 UTC

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2018-11-16 11:29:53 UTC

#RiseAndGrind
fellow identitarians

2018-11-16 11:47:58 UTC

back to my paper fellas

2018-11-16 11:48:14 UTC

bvck tv mv pvpvr fvllvs*

2018-11-16 11:49:19 UTC

@Asatru Artist - MD It's a total guess. They could've pulled that off of Google images and we wouldn't know any different.

2018-11-16 11:54:38 UTC

If you haven't lifted heavy weights by 6AM, are you even white?

2018-11-16 11:54:47 UTC

๐Ÿ‹

2018-11-16 11:58:37 UTC

@Tyler0317 Leaving to go do just that right now. Nice timing.

2018-11-16 11:59:07 UTC

@Axel <:chad:359013583469805568>

2018-11-16 12:39:48 UTC
2018-11-16 12:47:57 UTC

Dat rhetoric, though ๐Ÿ˜Ž: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylUfvEyjGJ8

2018-11-16 12:51:34 UTC
2018-11-16 12:52:54 UTC

Tucker needs to get down there pronto and pull a Gandalf

2018-11-16 12:54:22 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/512973705899540480/serveimage.gif

2018-11-16 12:56:48 UTC

Man, dude. Those comments are lively. People are waking up...

2018-11-16 12:59:08 UTC

Even Hannity's hittin' it hard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJOjegCK8xc

2018-11-16 13:51:17 UTC

Brazilian minister of foreign affairs

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2018-11-16 14:10:59 UTC

This is an older article, but someone reminded me of it. It is really good, I've been sharing it with some normie friends of mine again.

2018-11-16 14:20:31 UTC

>written in 2012

2018-11-16 14:20:39 UTC

If only he knew how bad things would really be

2018-11-16 14:24:20 UTC

Just listened to the latest episode of Indentitarian Action. IE has the best ladies confirmed ๐Ÿ˜Ž<:deye:359010025223618570>

2018-11-16 15:27:23 UTC

Are "The Proud Boys" on their way to being disbanded? It seems their whole situation has kind of hit the fan recently.

2018-11-16 15:31:30 UTC

Doubt theyโ€™ll disband

2018-11-16 15:32:01 UTC

After all, getting arrested as a Proud Boy earns them a higher degree

2018-11-16 15:39:37 UTC

Thereโ€™s more than one degree of being proud?

2018-11-16 15:40:48 UTC

the initial degree of proud involves being beaten up while yelling the names of cereal brands

2018-11-16 15:41:09 UTC

i assume it goes up from there based on how many antifa you bag?

2018-11-16 15:41:13 UTC

idk they're weird

2018-11-16 15:42:51 UTC

Being doxxed in the service of one's people is the greatest honor.

2018-11-16 15:45:09 UTC

If everyone self doxxed all at once would the fear of doxxing go away ?

2018-11-16 15:45:58 UTC

no because everyone self doxxing doesn't do jack to eliminate the consequences of being doxxed

2018-11-16 15:47:40 UTC

Sadly, I work with the type of people who would stop at nothing to get me fired if they heard the slightest thing about IE and I. So doxxing is bad, always.

2018-11-16 15:49:08 UTC

the only possible way for self doxxing to become viable is post winning the culture war in the actual mainstream

2018-11-16 15:49:24 UTC

unless you are completely fragile proof, a dox is a death sentence to your career and prospects

2018-11-16 15:50:39 UTC

Not always, but generally. IE presents well and is defendable, so one wonโ€™t lose their job 100% of the time. Cville was a totally different beast.

2018-11-16 15:51:40 UTC

maybe it's different where you are, but getting doxxed as IE where I am spells the end of my time at my university (already on thin ice due to flyering around here)

2018-11-16 15:51:56 UTC

it ain't just CVille connections, it's being a member in a "neo nazi white supREEEEmist" org

2018-11-16 15:52:02 UTC

Private uni?

2018-11-16 15:52:07 UTC

normies still believe that, especially the ones in academia

2018-11-16 15:52:09 UTC
2018-11-16 15:52:20 UTC

<:nervous:359009898115104770>

2018-11-16 15:53:12 UTC

I think one can recover from an IE dox. I remember seeing Defend Identity and being like โ€œyeah, if Iโ€™m doxed, this is a group I would be proud to be doxed as a member asโ€

2018-11-16 15:53:43 UTC

Also members of other groups get doxed way more often

2018-11-16 15:53:46 UTC

I'm proud of IE, but being proud of the group won't prevent the societal repercussions of being doxxed

2018-11-16 15:54:03 UTC

Know a couple who kept their jobs or work in trade

2018-11-16 15:54:52 UTC

And these are far worse optics in very liberal areas. Iโ€™ve been semi doxed (peers), only had temporary consequences

2018-11-16 15:56:06 UTC

Plus doxes only work if antifa can motivate people to spread the word about the person. If you donโ€™t say anything crazy in the dox, they wonโ€™t come after you as hard

2018-11-16 15:56:36 UTC

@Axel Same. Losts of blue hair and soy

2018-11-16 15:56:38 UTC

literal antifa works in the establishment of my university bub

2018-11-16 15:57:00 UTC

nashville antifa has a presence on our faculty

2018-11-16 15:58:02 UTC

That really blows. A dox would be horrible for you, and I think self doxing is generally dumb. Everyone should practice good opsec, but for most, I donโ€™t think a dox is a death sentence for the aforementioned things

2018-11-16 15:58:28 UTC

worst part is that reporting the presence of a violent communist sympathizer didn't do anything

2018-11-16 15:58:35 UTC

zero repercussions for the bitch

2018-11-16 15:59:07 UTC

they send out emails damn near weekly about the "white supREEEEmist" threats that are usually fake hate crimes

2018-11-16 15:59:21 UTC

Jeez

2018-11-16 15:59:22 UTC

nothing on the literal communist they employ and house

2018-11-16 16:00:47 UTC

Consider well designed flyers about it, but donโ€™t connect it to IE in any way. If it seems like IE is coming after them, theyโ€™ll come after us. This happens with a certain masked group that has physically confronted antifa. Constant doxes, have targets on their backs and donโ€™t have great opsec

2018-11-16 16:09:13 UTC

Well, they also vet very poorly. We're no doubt a high value target for them, but I suspect we simply have better vetting.

2018-11-16 16:11:24 UTC

Cross posting from another discussion:
If you're doxxed, you can create a job for yourself within the movement, which will then make you more attractive to single women in the movement even if you're not rich. The women are already on board so no fighting over statistics and political theories. Then you move to a working class area of a whiter state, and bam-- white neighborhood on the cheap.

2018-11-16 16:11:24 UTC

@NateDahl76 Plus they probably are more reckless than we are. The security of IE seems to be taken pretty seriously (not sharing exact locations of events to non-registrants) and common sense things like that.

2018-11-16 16:13:41 UTC

Let's see the IVF demographic studies...

2018-11-16 16:14:36 UTC

I'll bet you anything that HBD will be the result.

2018-11-16 16:14:59 UTC

Pro tip: breastfed babies have higher IQs <:4dchess:439923932062154782>

2018-11-16 16:24:37 UTC

who's this weird new guy in receiving? never heard of him ๐Ÿค”

2018-11-16 16:26:06 UTC

Lmao

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/513026991075885086/Screenshot_20181116-092520.jpg

2018-11-16 16:26:47 UTC

Dysgenic breeding is progress!

2018-11-16 16:41:52 UTC

@missliterallywho I think there are not many jobs in the movement. Not enough for our already doxxed brothers amd sisters. Most movement participants have a day job. Even Patrick does, he just happens to have the one day job that benefits from this movement.

2018-11-16 16:43:55 UTC

@ThisIsChris I wasn't implying getting hired but seeing a need amongst people in the movement and meeting it with one's particular talent or skill.

2018-11-16 16:43:59 UTC

A bad optics org at one point hired 17 people. Iโ€™d like to see IE there at some point. Would need to buy or create businesses

2018-11-16 16:44:17 UTC

Can we sue trump for a press pass?

2018-11-16 16:44:38 UTC

That would be sweet.

2018-11-16 16:45:07 UTC

Or get hired by a business owner in the movement

2018-11-16 16:45:59 UTC

Becoming our own economy within the economy will help us become antifragile

2018-11-16 16:46:06 UTC

@missliterallywho if you are publicly doxxed then getting hired by someone in the movement can just bring their business down too

2018-11-16 16:46:24 UTC

Why would anyone know you hired them?

2018-11-16 16:47:47 UTC

@missliterallywho Customers or other co-workers may know depending on the nature of the work.

2018-11-16 16:48:35 UTC

Most people are not browsing antifa websites, memorizing names and ratting out those they might stumble across

2018-11-16 16:48:59 UTC

And if they do you can tell them to shove it

2018-11-16 16:49:36 UTC

Googling someone's name is fairly common, antifa use SEO to make sure their doxx of you is near the top of Google

2018-11-16 16:49:39 UTC

I know a few doxed guys who are doing fine in terms of jobs. Trade work is in short supply

2018-11-16 16:49:43 UTC

If we stop "surrendering to terrorism" doxxing will lose power. But it's gotta start somewhere.

2018-11-16 16:50:28 UTC

"you can tell them to shove it"

that's not how this works

2018-11-16 16:51:08 UTC

It can be.

2018-11-16 16:51:10 UTC

Some fine young men currently being persecuted by the feds are personal friends of mine. They were doxxed long ago and, though it was difficult, they managed to make a living after the dox.

2018-11-16 16:51:29 UTC

What are they gonna do? Start a local campaign to get you shut down? Rare, and the accuser will probably be an outsider

2018-11-16 16:51:52 UTC

They are arguably some of the biggest targets in the movement, yet they figured it out. Doxxing is not a death sentence, that's all I'm trying to say.

2018-11-16 16:51:59 UTC

@NateDahl76 have any statistics on how rare it is?

2018-11-16 16:52:18 UTC

Iโ€™ll study it when I get home @ThisIsChris

2018-11-16 16:53:12 UTC

Yeah you're right, you probably won't be executed immediately in the middle of the street, so technically you will still be alive. That's not really the argument. And don't give people false security because you know a few guys who aren't complaining all the time.

2018-11-16 16:54:02 UTC

The likelihood of you getting fired is determined by a bunch of factors, including some you can control. Your optics, what you say, your charisma, and however motivated antifa is to get you fired

2018-11-16 16:54:30 UTC

Surviving a dox requires great creativity and ingenuity on the doxxee's part and great support from the community. Without those factors, sure, it's pretty bleak.

2018-11-16 16:54:36 UTC

And yeah doxing is still really really bad

2018-11-16 16:54:56 UTC

Always practice good opsec

2018-11-16 16:54:58 UTC

"Your optics, what you say, your charisma, and however motivated antifa is to get you fired" Most of this is not things you can control. What if someone ties you to Eli Mosley? We don't control the press, they do.

2018-11-16 16:55:14 UTC

@NateDahl76 and how much your employer actually cares. And how much their customers care.

2018-11-16 16:55:43 UTC

@missliterallywho and how much your customers customers care, and how much your customers customers customers care

2018-11-16 16:56:16 UTC

your employer won't give a shit about retaining you if his customers decide they won't support someone that employs a "nazi" as ordained by the media

2018-11-16 16:57:11 UTC

Yep

2018-11-16 16:57:15 UTC

Not denying that

2018-11-16 16:57:27 UTC

That stuff is outside of oneโ€™s own control entirely

2018-11-16 16:58:14 UTC

If what you're saying was true 100% of the time (obviously it is true some of the time, maybe even the majority) then Johnny Monoxide wouldn't still be an electrician, and many other tradesmen as well.

2018-11-16 16:59:00 UTC

@missliterallywho Johnny Monoxide had all the legal protections in the world and still described the experience as hellish

2018-11-16 16:59:47 UTC

He was in physical danger on the worksite and (according to him) tricked into signing away some of his rights by his employer who said he was offering him time off.

2018-11-16 16:59:57 UTC

Alex McNabb as well

2018-11-16 17:00:21 UTC

@ThisIsChris I am not arguing in favor of self doxxing, to be clear. Just saying, to be doxxed is not time to give up and crawl in a hole, if you catch my drift.

2018-11-16 17:01:01 UTC

Well yeah there's no point in crawling in a hole if you're already doxxed. But if you need to crawl in a hole to avoid being doxxed that sounds smarter to me than not crawling in the hole.

2018-11-16 17:01:20 UTC

I was implying suicide.

2018-11-16 17:01:29 UTC

Accosta got his press pass back.

2018-11-16 17:02:03 UTC

Go ahead and delete that if need be. Hence implying instead of stating initially.

2018-11-16 17:02:04 UTC

Risk is definitely a personal choice. Most people shouldnโ€™t be labelled as less smart because they accept more of it.

2018-11-16 17:02:32 UTC

OK yeah suicide doesn't solve anything. What I'm pushing back against is the idea that you can just do X Y Z when doxxed. I guess you you can sit in a cheap apartment and might qualify for welfare and food stamps to sustain you. Not really sure what to do with that. Hard to have kids and flourish in that case.

2018-11-16 17:03:28 UTC

Iโ€™m not saying itโ€™s a simple solution to keep your livelihood, Iโ€™m saying itโ€™s not always as bad as some make it out to be. Chances are, youโ€™ll be fired and youโ€™ll definitely experience some form of social rejection

2018-11-16 17:03:43 UTC

that sounds pretty bad

2018-11-16 17:03:52 UTC

I didn't mean to make it sound easy. My initial post was a quick counter argument to someone coming up with bad ideas and little hope. It was a jumping off point, not a complete case for xyz.

2018-11-16 17:04:27 UTC

A *lot* of social rejection. Like probably everyone you didn't meet through explicitly dissident right groups will disown you except your parents and siblings to some extent.

2018-11-16 17:04:56 UTC

Lol I did that myself when I adopted our ideas

2018-11-16 17:05:08 UTC

@missliterallywho what do you mean?

2018-11-16 17:05:34 UTC

@ThisIsChris I disappeared on everyone I knew except family

2018-11-16 17:05:34 UTC

Yeah, I kept Jewish friends after being doxed for having views on that stuff. I had blacks tell me they agreed with me on a lot of issues. I didnโ€™t experience total social rejection at all

2018-11-16 17:05:57 UTC

Maybe there is a generational difference, political correctness is big with millenials

2018-11-16 17:06:06 UTC

But I had a history of disappearing on everyone every 3 years or so anyway

2018-11-16 17:07:12 UTC

@NateDahl76 you were doxxed?

2018-11-16 17:07:15 UTC

being doxxed is more than about losing your job. Say you manage to keep it. Unless you live in an area / are already apart of a community that is at least in some way sympathetic to our views, your long-term relationships with friends, neighbors, family & just people in the community in general can be seriously damaged. Maybe it'd be ideal if they agreed with us but I'd assume we want to be active members in society

2018-11-16 17:07:17 UTC

When I made huge ideological shifts forward I shed my entire social life and started over. I don't expect to be needing to do that anymore.

2018-11-16 17:07:20 UTC

Among my peers.

2018-11-16 17:07:27 UTC

Nothing posted

2018-11-16 17:07:34 UTC

Was hushed

2018-11-16 17:07:43 UTC

H a n d l e d

2018-11-16 17:07:50 UTC

So people knew your views but it wasn't publicized.

2018-11-16 17:08:46 UTC

Yep. Had one of said peers recently try to dox me recently as well. I threatened a lawsuit and called his parents, and he stopped. These situations arenโ€™t cut and dry

2018-11-16 17:09:44 UTC

He contacted all of my friends, and I lost nothing

2018-11-16 17:10:22 UTC

@NateDahl76 So it was just the one guy?

2018-11-16 17:10:32 UTC

He didn't publish it on any antifa sites?

2018-11-16 17:10:34 UTC

>having friends
Bro r u even atomized?

2018-11-16 17:12:18 UTC

Yeah I posted something about my gf and he started hitting up people connected to my social media. I blocked him, and everyone he had contact with. Nothing was published because I had shut it down that night. He had connections to socialists

2018-11-16 17:12:31 UTC

I would have made it my mission to bankrupt him

2018-11-16 17:12:46 UTC

High agency

2018-11-16 17:13:39 UTC

I also had to pull social strings to get others to block him and such. Charisma

2018-11-16 17:13:40 UTC

@NateDahl76 you lucked out that he had low agency and that your friends don't mind, that he didn't take screenshots and send them to antifa (yet).

2018-11-16 17:14:05 UTC

I think yโ€™all are conflating โ€œpeople know my viewsโ€ and โ€œpeople posted my face and views on a website and sent them to my employers/university/neighborhoodโ€

2018-11-16 17:14:43 UTC

Itโ€™s a spectrum, friend. There are absolutely things you can do to mitigate damage

2018-11-16 17:14:52 UTC

Not absolutely

2018-11-16 17:15:10 UTC

once in a while if the guy has low agency then you can get lucky and contain the damage

2018-11-16 17:16:37 UTC

Is every single friend who found out tight lipped forever? Sounds ominous.

2018-11-16 17:18:39 UTC

Iโ€™m confident, because I made sure they know Iโ€™m a good person. One was a friend of my exโ€™s, who decided to stay out of it. Still got my ex to access her stuff and delete and block stuff for me. Social strings

2018-11-16 17:19:17 UTC

Basically they like me enough that itโ€™ll be alright. Others wonโ€™t mess with me because theyโ€™re not dumb and donโ€™t have the evidence

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