@ThisIsChris I am not arguing in favor of self doxxing, to be clear. Just saying, to be doxxed is not time to give up and crawl in a hole, if you catch my drift.

Well yeah there's no point in crawling in a hole if you're already doxxed. But if you need to crawl in a hole to avoid being doxxed that sounds smarter to me than not crawling in the hole.

I was implying suicide.

Accosta got his press pass back.

Go ahead and delete that if need be. Hence implying instead of stating initially.

Risk is definitely a personal choice. Most people shouldn’t be labelled as less smart because they accept more of it.

OK yeah suicide doesn't solve anything. What I'm pushing back against is the idea that you can just do X Y Z when doxxed. I guess you you can sit in a cheap apartment and might qualify for welfare and food stamps to sustain you. Not really sure what to do with that. Hard to have kids and flourish in that case.

I’m not saying it’s a simple solution to keep your livelihood, I’m saying it’s not always as bad as some make it out to be. Chances are, you’ll be fired and you’ll definitely experience some form of social rejection

that sounds pretty bad

I didn't mean to make it sound easy. My initial post was a quick counter argument to someone coming up with bad ideas and little hope. It was a jumping off point, not a complete case for xyz.

A *lot* of social rejection. Like probably everyone you didn't meet through explicitly dissident right groups will disown you except your parents and siblings to some extent.

Lol I did that myself when I adopted our ideas

@missliterallywho what do you mean?

@ThisIsChris I disappeared on everyone I knew except family

Yeah, I kept Jewish friends after being doxed for having views on that stuff. I had blacks tell me they agreed with me on a lot of issues. I didn’t experience total social rejection at all

Maybe there is a generational difference, political correctness is big with millenials

But I had a history of disappearing on everyone every 3 years or so anyway

@NateDahl76 you were doxxed?

being doxxed is more than about losing your job. Say you manage to keep it. Unless you live in an area / are already apart of a community that is at least in some way sympathetic to our views, your long-term relationships with friends, neighbors, family & just people in the community in general can be seriously damaged. Maybe it'd be ideal if they agreed with us but I'd assume we want to be active members in society

When I made huge ideological shifts forward I shed my entire social life and started over. I don't expect to be needing to do that anymore.

Among my peers.

Nothing posted

Was hushed

H a n d l e d

So people knew your views but it wasn't publicized.

Yep. Had one of said peers recently try to dox me recently as well. I threatened a lawsuit and called his parents, and he stopped. These situations aren’t cut and dry

He contacted all of my friends, and I lost nothing

@NateDahl76 So it was just the one guy?

He didn't publish it on any antifa sites?

>having friends
Bro r u even atomized?

Yeah I posted something about my gf and he started hitting up people connected to my social media. I blocked him, and everyone he had contact with. Nothing was published because I had shut it down that night. He had connections to socialists

I would have made it my mission to bankrupt him

High agency

I also had to pull social strings to get others to block him and such. Charisma

@NateDahl76 you lucked out that he had low agency and that your friends don't mind, that he didn't take screenshots and send them to antifa (yet).

I think y’all are conflating “people know my views” and “people posted my face and views on a website and sent them to my employers/university/neighborhood”

It’s a spectrum, friend. There are absolutely things you can do to mitigate damage

Not absolutely

once in a while if the guy has low agency then you can get lucky and contain the damage

Is every single friend who found out tight lipped forever? Sounds ominous.

I’m confident, because I made sure they know I’m a good person. One was a friend of my ex’s, who decided to stay out of it. Still got my ex to access her stuff and delete and block stuff for me. Social strings