Or get hired by a business owner in the movement

Becoming our own economy within the economy will help us become antifragile

@missliterallywho if you are publicly doxxed then getting hired by someone in the movement can just bring their business down too

Why would anyone know you hired them?

@missliterallywho Customers or other co-workers may know depending on the nature of the work.

Most people are not browsing antifa websites, memorizing names and ratting out those they might stumble across

And if they do you can tell them to shove it

Googling someone's name is fairly common, antifa use SEO to make sure their doxx of you is near the top of Google

I know a few doxed guys who are doing fine in terms of jobs. Trade work is in short supply

If we stop "surrendering to terrorism" doxxing will lose power. But it's gotta start somewhere.

"you can tell them to shove it"

that's not how this works

It can be.

Some fine young men currently being persecuted by the feds are personal friends of mine. They were doxxed long ago and, though it was difficult, they managed to make a living after the dox.

What are they gonna do? Start a local campaign to get you shut down? Rare, and the accuser will probably be an outsider

They are arguably some of the biggest targets in the movement, yet they figured it out. Doxxing is not a death sentence, that's all I'm trying to say.

@NateDahl76 have any statistics on how rare it is?

I’ll study it when I get home @ThisIsChris

Yeah you're right, you probably won't be executed immediately in the middle of the street, so technically you will still be alive. That's not really the argument. And don't give people false security because you know a few guys who aren't complaining all the time.

The likelihood of you getting fired is determined by a bunch of factors, including some you can control. Your optics, what you say, your charisma, and however motivated antifa is to get you fired

Surviving a dox requires great creativity and ingenuity on the doxxee's part and great support from the community. Without those factors, sure, it's pretty bleak.

And yeah doxing is still really really bad

Always practice good opsec

"Your optics, what you say, your charisma, and however motivated antifa is to get you fired" Most of this is not things you can control. What if someone ties you to Eli Mosley? We don't control the press, they do.

@NateDahl76 and how much your employer actually cares. And how much their customers care.

@missliterallywho and how much your customers customers care, and how much your customers customers customers care

your employer won't give a shit about retaining you if his customers decide they won't support someone that employs a "nazi" as ordained by the media

Yep

Not denying that

That stuff is outside of one’s own control entirely

If what you're saying was true 100% of the time (obviously it is true some of the time, maybe even the majority) then Johnny Monoxide wouldn't still be an electrician, and many other tradesmen as well.

@missliterallywho Johnny Monoxide had all the legal protections in the world and still described the experience as hellish

He was in physical danger on the worksite and (according to him) tricked into signing away some of his rights by his employer who said he was offering him time off.

Alex McNabb as well

@ThisIsChris I am not arguing in favor of self doxxing, to be clear. Just saying, to be doxxed is not time to give up and crawl in a hole, if you catch my drift.

Well yeah there's no point in crawling in a hole if you're already doxxed. But if you need to crawl in a hole to avoid being doxxed that sounds smarter to me than not crawling in the hole.

I was implying suicide.

Accosta got his press pass back.

Go ahead and delete that if need be. Hence implying instead of stating initially.

Risk is definitely a personal choice. Most people shouldn’t be labelled as less smart because they accept more of it.

OK yeah suicide doesn't solve anything. What I'm pushing back against is the idea that you can just do X Y Z when doxxed. I guess you you can sit in a cheap apartment and might qualify for welfare and food stamps to sustain you. Not really sure what to do with that. Hard to have kids and flourish in that case.

I’m not saying it’s a simple solution to keep your livelihood, I’m saying it’s not always as bad as some make it out to be. Chances are, you’ll be fired and you’ll definitely experience some form of social rejection