A lot has been said about electronic voting. Gruler talks about using block-chain. I found a YouTube video (https://youtu.be/LkH2r-sNjQs) that does an excellent job of explaining why none of it works.

Of course the big problem with the fraud isn't just proving it but what do you do about it. 200K ballots show up in the middle of the night at the counting location and every single one is a vote for Biden with no other race getting a single vote. Now, the people mix those ballots in with all the rest. Doesn't matter that there is a court order saying not to do it; they did it anyway. Who? They don't know; they were on break at that time. And the camera's were down for maintenance. Now, what can we do about it?

Anything electronic can be hacked unless it's air gaped and even that can be hacked if there is physical access. I want a hybrid system. You use an electronic voting machine the records your vote. BUT it also prints it out in a form that is both machine and human readable. This goes into an old fashioned, locked ballot box. When the polls close, the results are sent electronically to counting central. As the same time, you download the electronic results to some media like a flash drive. That along with the ballot box also go to counting central. In the end, the only vote that counts is the one in the ballot box. You know the unofficial results 30 minutes after the polls close. If there are any suspicions about the transmitted totals, you go to the media. Still not satisfied, machine read the ballots. STILL not satisfied, someone can read the ballots. If everything does not 100% match then you know there's a problem. But you have the ballot that was potentially verified by the voter.

I certainly hope that it is true.

@WatchingYouDaily How did he know about it and none of the Democrats?

@Michele411 I've heard many criticisms that Trump knew or should have know this was coming and did nothing. I've been asking, "what else could he have done?" I'm really hoping this is a real thing and he did secretly do something. I've also heard that if the Democrats cheated this election, whey didn't they do it last election? My answer is that they were caught by surprise.

@WatchingYouDaily How is this block-change update going to detect mail in ballot fraud?

@WatchingYouDaily If ACB votes as we expect. She's already declined to participate. Robert Barnes has no faith in her.

@Elias Diaz Obviously, the Dems haven't finished "finding" new ballots. They do have to wait for the ink to dry before turning them in.

knee how ma! [I don't have a chinese keyboard]

@TomWiliam += One Past Last Jedi I don't know about that. The one I was married to is a bit nuts.

@TomWiliam += One Past Last Jedi The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.

I don't understand how they stop a "faithless" elector. Let's say I'm an elector that is supposed to vote for Biden. I'll say all the right things but vote "Trump" when the time comes to cast that ballot.

Riots, looting, widespread destruction of public and private property.

A hundred thousand plus votes all for Biden with no votes in any other race is extremely fishy. But can they prove those ballots are fraudulent and do it in time? That is the million dollar question.

The biggest question of all is how long Biden will be President if he does end up the victor.

@Elias Diaz So you think he will last more than a year?

I would not support him in that. If Biden wins fair and square, so be it. But that is not the way!

I need to clean house.

the problem seems to be with ballots that arrived late. 250 ballots arriving at the counting center at 4:30am with votes for Biden and no one else. That's where I want to see a signature audit!

Briefly. Gruler's advice to them was to hide and not answer questions except to a judge. They have nothing to gain by answering.

What's up with the levels?

What prize do I get for advancing my level?

@TrumanHW What's your point?

i agree.

I wish a remembered the details for the Lin Woods suit.

@Whithers Is there a reason we shouldn't believe you?

I've been having trouble with everything.

Didn't Trump's commission fail because the states refused to cooperate and the commission had no power to compel cooperation?

@Maw You missed the big question! - Is there sufficient evidence that Kyle was in reasonable fear for his life?

The answer to that one is a resounding YES!

Seems silly that any time there is a person killed, it must go to a trial no matter the circumstance.

Then don't come to Texas!

Agreed

I still want to see the ballistics report on the first shooting. It is not clear from the video that Kyle was the shooter. Not saying he wasn't, just that it isn't clear.

Many believe that. There is often a quarter inch gap between what people believe and reality.

If you say so.

I don't think we need to destroy the country to fix it.

The thing that burns me is the role MSM has played in the division.

@TaLoN132 My statement was designed to be neutral. The overall problem is that MSM is substituting opinion for fact.

I'm not sure we do. One side wants freedom and the other wants equality. Both are admirable goals but if quality comes at the cost of freedom or freedom comes at the cost of equality then we have a problem.

Good point!

Not blaming everything on MSM.

What is our President doing right now?

Why not?

The big difference is that there were not allegations of widespread cheating. Trump won fair and square. The world series is decided by who wins 4 games; not by who scores the most runs.

Of course 2016.

I'm also certain that he won 2020.

There were allegation of "Russian collusion". But they were rather vague. No one ever alleged a single vote was changed or slipped into the counting.

@TaLoN132 Why do I have to believe it happened in 2015?

That was a typo. 2016.

Cheaters win if they aren't caught.

@TaLoN132 She was a soar loser but so what?

*sore*

And?

There was one huge difference in 2016. The polls showed Hillary winning big and the polls were believed. They didn't see any need to cheat. If the polls had been accurate, Hillary would have "won".

@Watching the Watchers Yeah! So what did I win?

@TaLoN132 What's your point?

@TaLoN132 No, the polls indicated she would win and they were believed to be accurate. This year, they did not make that mistake.

The key difference - they were believed.

BTW, I don't believe Biden cheated; I don't think he is that competent. But the cheating was done on his behalf.

The evidence shows Biden and Obama did that. I don't think she was in a position to do that.

Hillary is competent to rig an election. She apparently knew Trump would be way ahead election night but would come out ahead after that.

Okay, that is accurate. But this was done before election day. She arranged for it to be passed on after the election.

It was an "insurance policy".

What excuses?

The goal of both sides is power. Trump won the election and did so without selling his sole to the power brokers in Washington. That was unacceptible.

You're kidding? Tell me you're kidding.

Isn't that what I said?

What question was that?

Why is Discord sending me emails about a conversation I'm actively involved in?

I fear DC becoming a state!

EC?

DUH??? Color my face red.

No, CA is doing it locally. But they can't force people to stay and accept it. If done federally then you can't escape.

A public option would work wonderful. It would put private out of business. Then it would become corrupt and ineffecient.

I would have to know which example and examine it.

Canada doesn't have a private option.

Canadians may be happy with what they have; I don't want it.

Honestly, I don't buy it. But I have no time to look into how it does and does not work.

I don't think healthcare can be fixed. It is a finite product with infinite need.

If you have money, you can get an MRI tomorrow.

An electronic voting machine should output a paper ballot. Ballot stuffing is still an issue.

That is the problem!

But is that proof?

The problem is that you can't prove anything in time for the electoral college. And once Biden is in office, no investigation will happen.

Maybe it will but I can tell you now how it will go.

Not just the enthusiasm for Trump but the lack of it for Biden.

I haven't.

They were very quiet for a while.

In the days leading up to the election, they were not making noice.

I'm not sure anyone underestimates the hatred for Trump. The question is more the true number of them.

Yeah but I'm hearing stories about over 250K ballots marked only for Biden and no one else showing up at 4:30 am to the counting location.

I just hope we get that!

I thought Biden's strategy was to hide in his basement.

But is there anything that Trump could do? Each state runs its election.

A President with limited powers.

All Trump could do was send poll watchers. He couldn't stop them from kicking his people out. Nor could he stop them from lying to his people that they were quitting until 9 tomorrow.

In hindsight, should have had teams staking out the counting center 24/7 with cameras and someone of alerting everyone something was up.

20/20 hindsight!