Message from @GregInHouston2

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2020-11-22 15:24:56 UTC  

I just wish it wasn't so expensive for people.

2020-11-22 15:25:13 UTC  

Then don't come to Texas!

2020-11-22 15:25:40 UTC  

I'd expect the same for any time police have to shoot someone, they too should be going to court.

2020-11-22 15:26:08 UTC  

Or at least have a grand jury determine if they should.

2020-11-22 15:26:24 UTC  

Rather than a DA.

2020-11-22 15:26:32 UTC  

It doesn't always go to court but if it is reasonably questionable, we should want it examined in a court of law. Kinda like voter fraud.

2020-11-22 15:27:08 UTC  

Like, everyone should want that for all kinds of reasons.

2020-11-22 15:27:11 UTC  

I think Rittenhouse's case should have first gone to a grand jury tbh

2020-11-22 15:27:26 UTC  

Agreed

2020-11-22 15:29:22 UTC  

I think the fact the DA is in charge of prosecuting officers is... questionable to say the least.

2020-11-22 15:29:32 UTC  

It should be handled by the grand jury imho.

2020-11-22 15:29:41 UTC  

Too open to corruption otherwise.

2020-11-22 15:30:06 UTC  

And even with a grand jury, it's still open to corruption.

2020-11-22 15:31:12 UTC  

I still want to see the ballistics report on the first shooting. It is not clear from the video that Kyle was the shooter. Not saying he wasn't, just that it isn't clear.

2020-11-22 15:31:50 UTC  

I have no doubt it was him that shot and killed Rosenbaum.

2020-11-22 15:32:11 UTC  

If a jury sees the ballistics report, we will too.

2020-11-22 15:32:57 UTC  

As I'm sure the coroner didn't either, which is why they didn't really offer much of a statement suggesting otherwise.

2020-11-22 15:33:10 UTC  

Many believe that. There is often a quarter inch gap between what people believe and reality.

2020-11-22 15:33:30 UTC  

They do check the projectile type and damage inflicted.

2020-11-22 15:33:37 UTC  

Kyle was using very specific ammo.

2020-11-22 15:33:52 UTC  

If you say so.

2020-11-22 15:34:19 UTC  

(It's the reason Gaige's arm ended up the way it did)

2020-11-22 15:34:31 UTC  

And why it was so lethal.

2020-11-22 15:38:11 UTC  

It was purpose-built rapid expansion fragmentation ammo for SD.

2020-11-22 15:42:01 UTC  

All of these things are establishable through due process. I'm not 100% sure what makes anyone want to preclude that but I recognize that some do.

2020-11-22 15:42:47 UTC  

Like, it goes beyond your typical 5.56 JHP round.

2020-11-22 15:42:54 UTC  

This was more like RIP ammo.

2020-11-22 15:46:04 UTC  

So it was likely SP ammo.

2020-11-22 15:53:36 UTC  

Either that or extremely light JHP.

2020-11-23 00:25:25 UTC  

Doesn't it have to go the other way around?

2020-11-23 00:25:42 UTC  

the prosecutor has to prove that he wasn't?

2020-11-23 00:26:01 UTC  

at least from what I remember from reading Branca

2020-11-23 00:26:40 UTC  

Don't believe so no.

2020-11-23 00:26:51 UTC  

As self-defense is an affirmative defense.

2020-11-23 00:27:03 UTC  

affirmative defense just means you must admit the to the murder

2020-11-23 00:27:20 UTC  

but once you take the self defense route, it is on the prosecutor to prove you wrong

2020-11-23 00:27:27 UTC  

that was my understanding of Branca

2020-11-23 00:27:43 UTC  

maybe I'll put it out next weekend and give it another read

2020-11-23 00:27:51 UTC  

Affirmative defense means you did something but were justified in doing something, iirc.

2020-11-23 00:28:30 UTC  

google says affirmative defense does _not_ necessarily mean the burden of proof is on the defense

2020-11-23 00:29:29 UTC  

if self defense required the burden of proof on the defendant, it would be almost always useless