But it is horrendously disproportional violence.

Political violence anyway.

"Very fine people". Yeah, wait for it...

The big difference is that there were not allegations of widespread cheating. Trump won fair and square. The world series is decided by who wins 4 games; not by who scores the most runs.

What?

Trump won what? 2016?

Of course 2016.

We hear a lot of people saying he won 2020 as well, so I have to make sure.

There weren't allegations of cheating in 2016??? Were you on the moon?

I'm also certain that he won 2020.

I definitely differ there.

There were allegation of "Russian collusion". But they were rather vague. No one ever alleged a single vote was changed or slipped into the counting.

@GregInHouston2 It's funny that you say that, but if you believe that cheating is happening now, you have to believe that it existed in 2016. SIdney Powell and Russ Ramsland are asserting that the capability to do this was embedded in the dominion sw pre-2012.

But it would still be cheating, the semantics of how dont matter.

So, if there is cheating now... There was cheating in 2016.

@TaLoN132 Why do I have to believe it happened in 2015?

Except the argument you're making is that cheaters always win, @TaLoN132

That was a typo. 2016.

Which isn't logically consistent.

Or... maybe the will of the people was expressed in both elections and one losing candidate acted with grace and the other is just a sore loser.

Cheaters win if they aren't caught.

Grace? Haha. Im bowing out of this one.

Hillary did not act with any semblance of grace.

I apologize.

@Maw I'm making the opposite argument

@TaLoN132 She was a soar loser but so what?

*sore*

As deplorable a candidate as Clinton was - she was not my choice - she did concede and clear the way for Trump.

And?

She "conceded" in the most superficial way possible and then complained about how she was cheated out of her presidency for 4 years.

Grace may not be the correct word. Dignity maybe.

Not exactly what I'd call conceding with grace.

Nor conceding.

There was the whole russia thing that she paid for, but yeah...graceful transfer of power. Gtfoh.

There was one huge difference in 2016. The polls showed Hillary winning big and the polls were believed. They didn't see any need to cheat. If the polls had been accurate, Hillary would have "won".

@GregInHouston2, you just advanced to level 4!

Show me where Clinton claimed that she was cheated... Show me the mountain of Tweets where she claimed that she was the real winner of the Electoral College.

@Watching the Watchers Yeah! So what did I win?

DNC 2020, is one example.

She wrote a book about it IIRC.

@TaLoN132 What's your point?