Message from @GregInHouston2

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2020-11-22 17:09:13 UTC  

DUH??? Color my face red.

2020-11-22 17:09:19 UTC  

More than 51% for a day

2020-11-22 17:09:48 UTC  

Abolish the EC and congrats, you have a one party system.

2020-11-22 17:10:23 UTC  

Congress being at a standstill does not justify introducing bad faith (and in effect dictatorial powers) to a 9umvirate

2020-11-22 17:10:54 UTC  

@realz The Founders were also very weary of generational wealth and the potential for it leading to corruption. The issue with Congress is a complicated one. I understand the need to protect the interests of smaller states, but it is causing problems.

2020-11-22 17:11:10 UTC  

Ok then break up the union

2020-11-22 17:11:21 UTC  

There is no need for CA to experiment with the entire country

2020-11-22 17:11:28 UTC  

Let CA experiment with CA

2020-11-22 17:11:36 UTC  

It's already doing that.

2020-11-22 17:11:36 UTC  

It is not causing problems

2020-11-22 17:11:54 UTC  

The problem is that CA wants to implement the things it wants at the federal level

2020-11-22 17:11:59 UTC  

Without even trying it locally

2020-11-22 17:12:03 UTC  

CA is not the bastion of evil that it is portrayed to be...

2020-11-22 17:12:10 UTC  

I'm not saying it is

2020-11-22 17:12:19 UTC  

I mean, it's not doing too well if I recall.

2020-11-22 17:12:23 UTC  

If CA wants universal healthcare, they are free to try it

2020-11-22 17:12:28 UTC  

I endorse their attempt

2020-11-22 17:12:32 UTC  

But they aren't even trying

2020-11-22 17:12:39 UTC  

They are just going for the jugular

2020-11-22 17:12:53 UTC  

Straight to the federal government, and to the SC if they could

2020-11-22 17:13:10 UTC  

No, CA is doing it locally. But they can't force people to stay and accept it. If done federally then you can't escape.

2020-11-22 17:13:10 UTC  

If they had their way, the SC would declare it a human right and require it

2020-11-22 17:13:43 UTC  

Everyone sees this kind of shortcut powergrab

2020-11-22 17:14:01 UTC  

There is no congress problem

2020-11-22 17:14:06 UTC  

There is a shortcut problem

2020-11-22 17:14:42 UTC  

The ultimate question is: Why should CA be controlling other states?

2020-11-22 17:14:50 UTC  

That's why the EC exists.

2020-11-22 17:15:06 UTC  

That's why state governments exist too

2020-11-22 17:15:22 UTC  

That's also the reason for limiting federal power.

2020-11-22 17:15:28 UTC  

Mhm

2020-11-22 17:15:42 UTC  

Like I said, it is a shortcut problem

2020-11-22 17:16:49 UTC  

Progressives are espousing universal healthcare, but I think it is a bargaining ploy. Nobody thinks it will really happen. Even though I think that the discussion as to whether access to healthcare is a privilege or a right. Even so, with ACA they started with the public option and ended up with a neutered attempt at filling the healthcare gap. This time they are threatening more, but hoping to end up with a public option. I personally don't see a problem with the public option. I think it fosters competition. The private sector are always claiming to be infinitely more efficient than govt... Let's prove it.

2020-11-22 17:17:10 UTC  

I disagree that it is a bargaining ploy at all

2020-11-22 17:17:25 UTC  

And I'm not even saying I'm against it

2020-11-22 17:17:54 UTC  

I just gave it as an example of something states can do but jump to the federal legislature and eye the SC to get their way across the entire country

2020-11-22 17:17:58 UTC  

Shortcut

2020-11-22 17:19:10 UTC  

A public option would work wonderful. It would put private out of business. Then it would become corrupt and ineffecient.

2020-11-22 17:19:24 UTC  

Not entirely true.

2020-11-22 17:19:31 UTC  

Not what happened in many places.

2020-11-22 17:19:51 UTC  

This is my thought as well. That the voting system itself was providing information to some nefarious actors.

2020-11-22 17:20:01 UTC  

There are plenty of examples of public/private healthcare systems that coexist long-term.