Message from @GregInHouston2

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2020-11-22 15:34:02 UTC  

There is a huge problem with the judicial system, and it isn't because republicans happen to be selecting a lot of judges during their term

2020-11-22 15:34:22 UTC  

The problem is that one side is now playing in bad faith for the role of a judge and admits it publicly

2020-11-22 15:34:51 UTC  

Judicial activism is cancer

2020-11-22 15:35:35 UTC  

I hope the court gets packed so it destroys the system, by repeated packing until both sides realize they have to constitutionally reassess it

2020-11-22 15:36:16 UTC  

I don't think we need to destroy the country to fix it.

2020-11-22 15:36:32 UTC  

Im not interested in a 9umverate

2020-11-22 15:36:42 UTC  

If that is the country then it should be destroyed

2020-11-22 16:00:23 UTC  

I think that discussing these feelings/opinions/concerns are important. The current national discourse is only working to divided us. The hot button issues that we are bombarded with are kept at the forefront because they work to keep us divided. It's natural to disagree, we all come from different backgrounds and have different perspectives. The American experiment has been an exercise in trying to figure out how to get all these disparate factions to come together for the benefit of the whole. Sometimes, it has worked spectacularly well. Others, not so much. Every generation gets tested - this one is no different. I can guarantee that our ancestors have felt the burden of this daunting task and they figured out how to get through it. If they can, we can.

2020-11-22 16:17:17 UTC  

The thing that burns me is the role MSM has played in the division.

2020-11-22 16:19:29 UTC  

Regarding the specific concern about judicial activism, I think it is actually part of a larger problem. Our legislative branch is a mess and I think it is structural. The founding fathers intended the House of Representatives to be much more... well... representative. 1 for every 30K people, actually, and they decided that knowing that potential population in the 100's of millions. The Great Compromise that led to the creation of the Senate was primarily done to appease the slave states so they would join the union. The problem now is that Senate majority represents way fewer Americans than the minority. To understand the resentment on the left, consider that the last 3 SCOTUS appointments were nominated by a President that substantially lost the popular vote (something like 38 presidents won with less popular vote differential than Clinton won) and a Senate that only represent about 40% of the population. In any case, I think that fixing the legislation to minimize corporate interests will help to get our checks and balances into balance.

2020-11-22 16:22:01 UTC  

@GregInHouston2 The liberals and progressives say the same exact thing about the rightwing media echo chamber. There are are large factions on both sides of the political spectrum that will only believe what comes out of their echo chamber. We have collectively forgotten how to think for ourselves.

2020-11-22 16:23:54 UTC  

I am a liberal, and I agree that left wing activists are infecting the judicial system. The far left is delusional as hell. They have genuinely lost touch with reality.

2020-11-22 16:25:59 UTC  

We have not all lost the ability to think for ourselves. The far left is goose stepping all over the place. You don't see crowds of Trump supporters beating people with Biden hats, burning stores down, throwing explosives at police, blatantly burning the constitution to get what they want.

2020-11-22 16:26:22 UTC  

@TaLoN132 My statement was designed to be neutral. The overall problem is that MSM is substituting opinion for fact.

2020-11-22 16:26:41 UTC  

I would like to know more about how you reached that conclusion. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you are painting with a particularly wide brush. I think fundamentally, Americans want the same things. They disagree on how to achieve them.

2020-11-22 16:28:28 UTC  

I'm not sure we do. One side wants freedom and the other wants equality. Both are admirable goals but if quality comes at the cost of freedom or freedom comes at the cost of equality then we have a problem.

2020-11-22 16:30:14 UTC  

The "how" is the problem. Nazis aren't defined by antisemitism, and an entire country didn't suddenly turn "evil". It was a nation defined by the ideology that you can justify evil acts with righteous ideas. Frederick Douglass talks about this in his autobiography as it pertains to his Christian masters. The left has been seduced by the "by any means necessary" fallacy which is the common thread of some of the worst crimes against humanity throughout history.

2020-11-22 16:30:54 UTC  

Good point!

2020-11-22 16:32:19 UTC  

How is blaming everything on the MSM strawman neutral? All media are businesses. They are creating a product that generates income based on the number of eyeballs/ears it attracts. That is true on the right and the left. Media companies who produce content that a segment of the population wants to hear in order to get them to watch/listen will attract more $$. It's capitalism. If Fox News dares to report something that the right doesn't want to hear, the right immediately tries to cancel them. I am not a fan of Tucker Carlson, but when he called out Sidney Powell for not delivering on the Kraken promise, the right went ballistic.

2020-11-22 16:34:01 UTC  

@Benny2Toes Both sides have this "by any means necessary" mentality. Look at what our president is doing right now. There is no moral high ground here.

2020-11-22 16:34:20 UTC  

Not blaming everything on MSM.

2020-11-22 16:34:32 UTC  

What is our President doing right now?

2020-11-22 16:34:42 UTC  

@TaLoN132 You can't honestly be asserting that the left and right are comparable in any way shape or form.

2020-11-22 16:34:55 UTC  

I mean...really?

2020-11-22 16:35:06 UTC  

Why not?

2020-11-22 16:38:30 UTC  

4 years ago, Hillary Clinton was in a worse position. She lost a close election - but had won the popular vote. Hours after the race was projected for Trump, she conceded. Her campaign continue to explore options leading up to the Electoral college, but the Obama administration proceeded to help Trump's team with the transition. That is how things have been done for 240 years, with the exception of 2000 when the presidency was determined by 537 votes.

2020-11-22 16:38:56 UTC  

Show me the rights version of this. I will wait.

2020-11-22 16:39:04 UTC  

This is delusion.

2020-11-22 16:39:42 UTC  

The right is NOT doing anything like this. They aren't chasing people down and beating them senseless for exercising their right to support a candidate.

2020-11-22 16:40:05 UTC  

To suggest otherwise is insane.

2020-11-22 16:40:49 UTC  

The usual defense of this comes from 2017.

2020-11-22 16:41:00 UTC  

But it is horrendously disproportional violence.

2020-11-22 16:41:07 UTC  

Political violence anyway.

2020-11-22 16:41:11 UTC  

"Very fine people". Yeah, wait for it...

2020-11-22 16:41:14 UTC  

The big difference is that there were not allegations of widespread cheating. Trump won fair and square. The world series is decided by who wins 4 games; not by who scores the most runs.

2020-11-22 16:41:24 UTC  

What?

2020-11-22 16:41:29 UTC  

Trump won what? 2016?

2020-11-22 16:41:44 UTC  

Of course 2016.

2020-11-22 16:42:03 UTC  

We hear a lot of people saying he won 2020 as well, so I have to make sure.

2020-11-22 16:42:20 UTC  

There weren't allegations of cheating in 2016??? Were you on the moon?