Message from @GregInHouston2

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2020-11-22 17:20:42 UTC  

Just Google shit like "certificate of need"

2020-11-22 17:21:07 UTC  

It doesn't matter who pays for it, the underlying system is so bad that we will always have problems till we solve those

2020-11-22 17:21:11 UTC  

I would have to know which example and examine it.

2020-11-22 17:21:16 UTC  

Canada.

2020-11-22 17:21:25 UTC  

Agreed... other countries with public healthcare have a robust supplemental insurance business for those that want more.

2020-11-22 17:21:30 UTC  

They have both a private and public system.

2020-11-22 17:21:32 UTC  

If we solve those problems, then both public or private have a chance at working

2020-11-22 17:21:44 UTC  

Canada doesn't have a private option.

2020-11-22 17:21:48 UTC  

Yes it does.

2020-11-22 17:21:56 UTC  

Canada's drugs are capped

2020-11-22 17:22:02 UTC  

Subsidized by you

2020-11-22 17:22:25 UTC  

Prevented from import (and thus free market) by our government (perhaps until recently)

2020-11-22 17:22:44 UTC  

There are some good NPR podcasts on this subject

2020-11-22 17:22:48 UTC  

Private is subsidized by public by requests.

2020-11-22 17:22:55 UTC  

The entire thing is so fd up it takes hours to untangle

2020-11-22 17:23:33 UTC  

Canadians may be happy with what they have; I don't want it.

2020-11-22 17:23:33 UTC  

@GregInHouston2, you just advanced to level 5!

2020-11-22 17:23:53 UTC  

I'm just explaining that it's a private/public option that coexists.

2020-11-22 17:24:01 UTC  

As an example.

2020-11-22 17:24:23 UTC  

Because you said that public just takes over everything and crushes private.

2020-11-22 17:25:16 UTC  

Honestly, I don't buy it. But I have no time to look into how it does and does not work.

2020-11-22 17:25:25 UTC  

It's funny... I don't think I have seen any other issue that has been so unifying in this group. Everyone agrees healthcare needs to be fixed. Somehow.

2020-11-22 17:26:09 UTC  

Pros: Lesser costs to the public for general healthcare.
Cons: Longer wait times for diagnostics and procedures.

2020-11-22 17:26:38 UTC  

It's not that fast now...

2020-11-22 17:26:49 UTC  

It's very slow in a lot of universal systems.

2020-11-22 17:26:54 UTC  

/very/ slow.

2020-11-22 17:27:10 UTC  

Like a year to get an MRI kind of slow.

2020-11-22 17:27:23 UTC  

I don't think healthcare can be fixed. It is a finite product with infinite need.

2020-11-22 17:27:37 UTC  

@TaLoN132 there is indeed a lot of room for bipartisanship, like removing shitty laws that induce monopolies, in that sense you are right

2020-11-22 17:27:47 UTC  

But that is not what the Dems are frustrated about

2020-11-22 17:28:02 UTC  

There may be that technology helps with that. The DMV is getting better here in CA with being able to make appointments online.

2020-11-22 17:28:03 UTC  

If you have money, you can get an MRI tomorrow.

2020-11-22 17:28:04 UTC  

They in fact were proponents of most of these shitty laws to begin with

2020-11-22 17:28:33 UTC  

(but most people simply don't know about the subject enough)

2020-11-22 17:29:04 UTC  

I wish I could find those NPR podcasts, they are golden

2020-11-22 17:30:04 UTC  

You also have to remember, Canada only has the funds for universal healthcare because they don't spend nearly as much on their military expenditures.

2020-11-22 17:30:07 UTC  

Unlike America.

2020-11-22 17:30:18 UTC  

You're going to have to give something up.

2020-11-22 17:30:51 UTC  

And I doubt it'll be the military.

2020-11-22 17:33:16 UTC  

Good laugh at irony