Good night.

Goodnight... It has been a pleasure.

Same

Indeed. Night

@DrSammyD, you just advanced to level 10!

https://twitter.com/jennybethm/status/1328888692547538945?s=09

@TaLoN132

YES!

Do some research yourself.
Msm has spent four years trying to convince you that the President who has done the most to help, has done the least.
Some choose to believe tv, others choose to look into shit.

@TaLoN132 that's the thing about the courts, one side thinks they are meant to judge the text, the other side explicitly believes in judicial activism which makes the partisan judges

(explicitly)

What is the _job_ of a judge according to those who support judicial activism?

How does it differ from the legislature?

@db123 I'm not sure if your comment was directed at me, but in regards to our conversation last night, we were discussing, roughly, what it will take to heal our deeply divided nation. Your reaction appears to be a prime example for why that conversation is an important. No matter how this election ultimately plays out, half of the country is going to be elated and the other half is going to be despondent. These are natural reactions - it happens every 4 years, just less gracefully this year. Every election, the losing side feels the sting of the loss and wonders if it is legitimate... Every election.

Indeed how does it differ from a dictator for life?

There is a huge problem with the judicial system, and it isn't because republicans happen to be selecting a lot of judges during their term

The problem is that one side is now playing in bad faith for the role of a judge and admits it publicly

Judicial activism is cancer

I hope the court gets packed so it destroys the system, by repeated packing until both sides realize they have to constitutionally reassess it

I don't think we need to destroy the country to fix it.

Im not interested in a 9umverate

If that is the country then it should be destroyed

I think that discussing these feelings/opinions/concerns are important. The current national discourse is only working to divided us. The hot button issues that we are bombarded with are kept at the forefront because they work to keep us divided. It's natural to disagree, we all come from different backgrounds and have different perspectives. The American experiment has been an exercise in trying to figure out how to get all these disparate factions to come together for the benefit of the whole. Sometimes, it has worked spectacularly well. Others, not so much. Every generation gets tested - this one is no different. I can guarantee that our ancestors have felt the burden of this daunting task and they figured out how to get through it. If they can, we can.

The thing that burns me is the role MSM has played in the division.

Regarding the specific concern about judicial activism, I think it is actually part of a larger problem. Our legislative branch is a mess and I think it is structural. The founding fathers intended the House of Representatives to be much more... well... representative. 1 for every 30K people, actually, and they decided that knowing that potential population in the 100's of millions. The Great Compromise that led to the creation of the Senate was primarily done to appease the slave states so they would join the union. The problem now is that Senate majority represents way fewer Americans than the minority. To understand the resentment on the left, consider that the last 3 SCOTUS appointments were nominated by a President that substantially lost the popular vote (something like 38 presidents won with less popular vote differential than Clinton won) and a Senate that only represent about 40% of the population. In any case, I think that fixing the legislation to minimize corporate interests will help to get our checks and balances into balance.

@GregInHouston2 The liberals and progressives say the same exact thing about the rightwing media echo chamber. There are are large factions on both sides of the political spectrum that will only believe what comes out of their echo chamber. We have collectively forgotten how to think for ourselves.

I am a liberal, and I agree that left wing activists are infecting the judicial system. The far left is delusional as hell. They have genuinely lost touch with reality.

We have not all lost the ability to think for ourselves. The far left is goose stepping all over the place. You don't see crowds of Trump supporters beating people with Biden hats, burning stores down, throwing explosives at police, blatantly burning the constitution to get what they want.

@TaLoN132 My statement was designed to be neutral. The overall problem is that MSM is substituting opinion for fact.

I would like to know more about how you reached that conclusion. I don't disagree with you, I just think that you are painting with a particularly wide brush. I think fundamentally, Americans want the same things. They disagree on how to achieve them.

I'm not sure we do. One side wants freedom and the other wants equality. Both are admirable goals but if quality comes at the cost of freedom or freedom comes at the cost of equality then we have a problem.

The "how" is the problem. Nazis aren't defined by antisemitism, and an entire country didn't suddenly turn "evil". It was a nation defined by the ideology that you can justify evil acts with righteous ideas. Frederick Douglass talks about this in his autobiography as it pertains to his Christian masters. The left has been seduced by the "by any means necessary" fallacy which is the common thread of some of the worst crimes against humanity throughout history.

Good point!

How is blaming everything on the MSM strawman neutral? All media are businesses. They are creating a product that generates income based on the number of eyeballs/ears it attracts. That is true on the right and the left. Media companies who produce content that a segment of the population wants to hear in order to get them to watch/listen will attract more $$. It's capitalism. If Fox News dares to report something that the right doesn't want to hear, the right immediately tries to cancel them. I am not a fan of Tucker Carlson, but when he called out Sidney Powell for not delivering on the Kraken promise, the right went ballistic.

@Benny2Toes Both sides have this "by any means necessary" mentality. Look at what our president is doing right now. There is no moral high ground here.

Not blaming everything on MSM.

What is our President doing right now?

@TaLoN132 You can't honestly be asserting that the left and right are comparable in any way shape or form.

I mean...really?

Why not?