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No idea Karoo
They are targeting dormant land. Land that is owned by people but not in use,i'm almost 100% sure of this.
I will leave durban to help those people if that Dickhead decides to interfere there
@Penkop hypothetical (Poking a hornetts nest)
If they get that right, the rest will go easy
Here is some ammo for those who accuse capitalist for being exploiters http://austrolibertarian.com/bohm-bawerk-against-marxian-exploitation-theory/
watch the eff burn down pampers next
Lol.. It's funny because its true
Coolest monkey in a diaper
Thats because dad is nowhere to be found
blank angst is hillarius
Daai is nou n kak storie as ek al ooit een gesien het. Ons almal weet die fkn goed hol kaalgat rond.
Met snot wat oor die bo lip reguit in mond in dreineeer...
Wa het jy nou in jou lewe n vlêrmuis in n diaper gesien? Fok
Ek soek die song op YouTube
"Saam saam SAAM sal ons staan" Ek glo dit is 70/80's song. Was op n channel wat grensoorlog videos gehad het,ek kry dit nie gevind meer nie.
Ok on a more serious note, I was sent this on whatsapp today. Reality check:
WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE ANC TAKES MY FARM
I have no doubt that the ANC Govt has given a lot of thought to the topic of Expropriation Without Compensation (EWC) however I think they might not have fully comprehended the consequences of such a policy. As a farmer I thought it might be useful to enlighten them as to the course of action I would take once my farm is targeted for EWC. Before I continue I would like to emphasize that this is not a threat nor delivered with the mindset of a saboteur, it is merely a description of the sequence of events that would unfold in the event of such a policy being enforced.
• I would immediately identify all the moveable assets on my farm and start selling them or placing them in a suitable storage facility. I list these below simply to demonstrate to non-farmers what makes a farm functional and profitable. The first to go would be all the livestock followed by all the machinery including tractors, pumps, silos, centre pivots, electrical transformers, irrigation equipment, water troughs, implements and piping. I would strip the dairy and sell the bulk tanks, milking machines etc. I would take down all internal fencing on the farm and recoup what I could. All sheds would be disassembled and all houses and other buildings would be stripped of anything sellable, including their roofs.
• I would disconnect/cancel the 5 Eskom points on the farm and obtain refunds on the deposits I’ve paid on them.
• I would re-trench all my staff and pay them off in accordance with the Labour Act. I would then strip all the staff accommodation on the farm and sell what I could.
• With the sale of all my livestock and cessation of the farming operation I would immediately default on the R5.5m I owe FNB but I wouldn’t worry as the farm is the loan’s security and I don’t really own anything else.
• When the day came to leave the farm I would hand the ‘keys’ over to the new ‘owners’ but I’m not quite sure what they would do as there’d be no roof on the farm house and there would be nothing to ‘farm’ on the farm. It would just be a piece of land, but that’s ok because the ANC says owning land makes you wealthy.
When you take the sequence of events described above and multiply it on a national scale you see another sequence of events unfolding.
• The new ‘farmers’ arrive on the farm but there is no livestock, machinery or working capital to continue the operation.
• They go to the banks to borrow money (A good farming habit) but the banks are sitting on a R160 Billion defaulted debt book from the ‘old’ farmers and won’t lend a cent to agriculture. They’re fighting for their own survival now.
• The Govt doesn’t have the money, which would be far more than the R160 Billion mentioned above, to re-capitalise and finance all the farms so most of the farms either fall derelict or are farmed at a subsistence level.
• There is a massive but short-term surplus of Beef, Sheep and Poultry products due to the sell-off by the previous farmers. This brings prices down drastically in the short term but eventually the meat runs out and there is nothing to replace it. Meat prices skyrocket.
• Dairy products cease almost immediately after the livestock cull/sell-off and within weeks there is a critical shortage of all dairy products. Importing is impossible due to the Govt’s actions which have decimated the value of the Rand.
• Maize lasts quite a bit longer and with careful rationing will endure until the next season but there is no crop in the ground for next year due to the new ‘farmers’ lack of machinery, experience and access to credit.
• All agricultural Co-Ops and suppliers very quickly cease operation and/or go bankrupt and re-trench all their staff. They cannot survive by selling single bags of seed and fertilizer to subsistence farmers.
• All processors of agricultural products such as meat, dairy and maize cease operation due to lack of product and re-trench all their staff.
• Rural Municipalities start to feel the pinch as there are no longer any farmers paying rates and the agricultural businesses in the towns have also sold up and left.
• Smaller rural towns that depended on agriculture eventually collapse and rural communities are forced to travel long distances to major centres to find ever dwindling supplies.
• Ironically the EWC movement creates more Urbanisation as the rural folk flee the agricultural desert that has been created.
• All food dependent enterprises such as fast food chains and restaurants either disappear or are greatly reduced…along with all their staff.
• With all the unemployed farmworkers, as well as those who have lost their jobs from other sectors, there is an unsustainable demand on the UIF system and it soon collapses.
• The Social Grant system teeters as the ripple effect from the agricultural collapse enters all sectors and the tax-base is shredded.
• Food riots become common and genuine hunger and poverty widespread.
• Unlike Zimbabwe the South African population has nowhere to run.
• With the White Farmer no longer an available target and the true ‘value’ of land revealed in all its fallacy the masses turn on the only target they have left. The ANC.
it's the logical conclusion and where does that leave the normal white man?
Well we are pretty screwed because we will also eventually run out of food
Well, we make do with what we have. Pretty sure anarchy will be raised during the process and we will finally come to the conclusion that we need to take care of ourselves, because no one else will.
Maybe we finally get a leader to rise up
get some patriots pantry 😃
>• With the White Farmer no longer an available target and the true ‘value’ of land revealed in all its fallacy the masses turn on the only target they have left. The ANC.
they'll target the suburbs next
Sheamus a leader is what we need, one that can unite us + remind all of us who we are. We are not some cowardice colonial band of thieves they make us out to be. We are Afrikaners, voortrekkers who had the mighty english empire on its knees , against overwhelming odds. We build a nation in this barron waste land when nobody else could do it.
We need Gerald Butler...
We need Chuck Norris
we need somebody like George Lincoln Rockwell lol
We need ET in hologram form
we should use black superstition against them
We should also remove warning labels
photoshop tokoloshe nto photos from town ships
Psychological warfare! Brilliant
Shouldnt be to hard
we need to be clever
it's our strength
But first we need to turn back to out conservative ways
anycase thats alot of doom and gloom
Dont want to commit suicide due to crippling depression before the fight starts
@Penkop Yeah when people stop dividing and finding reasons to divide... Which is much easier said than done honestly.
enter Steve Hofmeyer
Uncle Siener also said first many thousands will die then we will start to become a nation again
I've seen a few of my liberal friends and clients go right lately, one can't stop using the k word and she used to be super lib lol
africa does that to good goyim
Yeah, but whyyy must we be like that? It's like that corner on the road you know is going to lead to an accident, why must an accident first occur before a road bump is placed to get people to slow down around that corner...
I was neve a fan of Steve Hofmeyer whatsoever. But because of everything he does for Afrikaans and because he stands up for us, I respect him. I would like to see him take a crack at it.
life is designed full of distractions like sport and pop music so people don't notice anything else
frogs in the warming water...
If only I watched any of the above 😭
Well if a rugby match is distracting you from what is happening right now in SA, you are a damn idiot
Friday why pop music?
If Im a frog, then Im one of those poisonous ones from the Anazon, touch me and die...
could have said music but you went for pop music
Is there something your hiding?
no, they used to make good music
nothing wrong with music but idolizing arseholes is a waste of time
big fan of classical
Haha I think Friday was refering to anothe of Oom Sieners prophecies. He basically says that we will be attacked and more divided than ever, the world will be distracted by other things such as sport and music
Let me see if I can find it quick
ill never understand brainlets obsession for specific artists
sport used to be something children did at school mostly until they realized they could use it to distract the masses and create fortunes
we take it for granted these days
sport is entertainment
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sport has been around far longer than school sports
At first he always spoke of the Boer’s mistake to make idols of his foremen, because they are also only flesh and blood that can achieve nothing if it is not the will of God. Secondly he sees that our Boer nation will not only become sports-addicts in the future, but would idolise them to such an extent that other nations will use them as arms against us. Eventually the nation’s enemies will force us – for the sake of sport – will sacrifice its principles, its religion, yes, everything it has will be forced to sacrifice it on the altar!
He also predicted that all these thing will happen around a very large election, an election in which all – except Seer’s “Faithful Afrikaners” will participate and which will end in the last division between Boer and Boer.
That is just part of it. Im still busy with Messenger Of God book. The author comes back to that vision a few more times.
Sport really emphasizes competitiveness... not necessarily the games we play as sports.
Uuhrg my internet is too kak to join kakpraat
Oh is that why you left..
Someone's a bit obsessed?
the Orania Honeymoon better come with dvd commentary when its out
I want the Lord to pull a 'Job' on Renaldo
i wanna see his mettle tested through the flames
can he make it without that Audi?
Man shall not live on bread alone.
that song is anointed
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Anything happening today?
malema is faceing 15 years for discharging that rifle, seems like the gov is desperate not to convict though
time for some private military actions
who wanna pitch in for an AH-64
Nothing will happen
Slap on the wrist
if everybody pitches in around 20k USD
we can get a boeing AH-64
and just reconquer SA
Parachute from the sky the blacks will think you're gods
@Arm What malema did is a serious crime in SA,especially firing in front of a large crowd. There is a prima facie,meaning evidence that stands( Video evidence) Many people in the video is identified also,so they will have to testify and not everyone can spin the story as "Fake Gun",that "fake" gun will need to be investigated. He claimed it coincided with fireworks,so they will have to present evidence,of who sold it and the permission of setting it off(fireworks regulations and laws)
Nope nothing will happen to him. The government is too scared of the eff. If they lock him up the eff will simply say :” lock up joelieasss and we will burn the country down” simple as that
At the moment he can do whatever he wants because they have let him get away with so much. Kind of like an eff juggernaut. If the government does anything they dont like they simply threaten violence
That's the thing, he gets away with this, he really just gets away with murder.. Can you imagine his ego if he gets away with this?
I would love nothing more than him getting a fair trial and sentence but we all know such a thing does not exist in this country. That is why I said I would love to see a white guy discharging an automatic weapon with fire works in the back ground then say but it was a fake rifle and part of the fire works. To force the government to then either let that slip too or proscecute both of them.
Dag Sê kêrrels. I see we chat in Engaresh here. @Penkop please send me your siener ref: I read his book years ago need a refresher.
At the moment Im reading Messanger of God by Adriaan Snyman I bought Kindle edition off Amazon. It is very informative
MrE gaan na Afrikaans toe ons praat lekker kak da
Awe. I read that ☝
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I have been warning people for months to dump their ZAR. Gold, silver and bitcoin is where you want to be ZAR will dump more worst is yet to come https://businesstech.co.za/news/finance/264275/rand-shoots-past-r14-to-the-dollar-as-emerging-markets-crash/
Holy heck guys wtf did I miss this morning
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Great Ramafuckwitt and his cronies are making me richer by the day. R-$ is looking sweet
ding ding Virgin Sea Cucks vs Chad Oraniers round two. Lets go!
I'd go to the South Pole with you all. Just make up your minds :D
No infrastructure to accommodate 2.5m people
No fertile lands or rain season.NC is arid climate
Can accommodate 2.5m
Can move here tomorrow
Infrastructure is ready
Farmlanda have fertile soil,farmers can move here
International trade ready to go with the port.
if we could huddle around the entire orange river...
We need the farming industry,can't go without it. We wil export
we take care of our needs first, us and our allies, and then export what is left for profit to build our wealth and participate in trading
Can you prove that the WC can accommodate 2.5M people? It seems like the WC is having trouble keeping the water on. The WC doesnt have 2.5M jobs "availalable" if that was the case then the unemployment rate would be much lower in SA. Orania is very fertile contrary to popular belief, being on the river makes a huge difference. Also WC has the highest crime rate in SA.
Lol we should colonise Madagascar. Muh Island 😸
@HoppeanSnake_ZA i didnt say 2.5milliom jobs. I said jobs were available,businesses can move here and employ fellow afrikaners,we wil create more jobs with the expansion of the farming industry and new businesses that wil open.
Housing: WC currently accommodates about 130k new people yearly. Over 10 years its not that big of a strain om infrastructure to accomadate all Afrikaners ,we will simply just build more housing.plenty of areas still available to expand.
Water: The city of cape town had water issues.all other towns have their own dams and boreholes serving them.Plus we can just build more desalination plants
The murder rate was for nyanga. A small informal area. The WC is mostly safe compared to other provinces
In Orania praat die hardekole saam
1.) "I said jobs were available,businesses can move here and employ fellow afrikaners,we wil create more jobs with the expansion of the farming industry and new businesses that wil open." Why not do this in Orania?
2.) "We will simply just build more housing.plenty of areas still available to expand." Why not simply build the houses in Orania?
3.) "The city of cape town had water issues.all other towns have their own dams and boreholes serving them.Plus we can just build more desalination plants" The Orania river has lots of water.
You live in close proximity to informal settlements, no such problems in Orania
@HoppeanSnake_ZA because orania can't accommodate 100k people per year currently.
They don't even own that much land.
Really? Orania is expanding all the time. Neither can WC btw.
Orania is private land where you buy a share instead of having a title deed
and property has skyrocketed
Willem said a R200 000 is now worth R4 mill
WC can already accommodate 100k .
You buy shares in the company. You have proportional representation in the trust. You have a defacto title deed. Tell me what does a title deed represent within a country? Is it not a guarantee similar to the idea of Orania?
@HoppeanSnake_ZA orania is not self determined. Its a private owned piece of farm land. The municipality can easily stop them expanding by protecting land for rdp housing projects etc etc
The state can do the same thing in the WC.
Can't stop all developments
Do you honestly believe that the WC is independent? What is a province even?
Much more autonomy in Orania due to it being a private law society.
I did nt say they are independent?
Yeah for 2000 people not 2.5million
because Sea cucks dont like it.😉
Send boshoff a email asking him if he can accommodate 2.5m Afrikaners and how
Send (((Tannie Hellen))) an email asking her the same thing.
I just gave you the info
WC accommodates 130k people per year moving here.
How many of those are bantus from the WC?
@HoppeanSnake_ZA the difference between our theories are that mine is realistic and available now. Whereas yours is not a viable option for all right now.
Im gonna have to side with Gonzo on the WC. We have enough space, Cape Town Harbour + Saldanha Bay Harbour. More than enough fertile land to farm. The water crisis was because of the pathetic DA and ANC piss contes. The water crisis can be solved in 3 months with the desalination technology available from a Cape Town based company. The DA just keeps rejecting it. That alone will create jobs. Then we can still add thousands if wind farms in the WC which will help with electricity and again generate more jobs. I admire Orania but they are a bit vulnerable in the middle there.
Wie follow doringboom?
Nee ek ken nie skaapie. Maak my wys
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The WC has SOOO much more potential but we are crippled by the Dyslexic Alliance. Endless possibilities the wine industry can be even bigger if they just get the opportunity. Tourism on the West Coast ... Endless possibilities. BUT simebody needs to take charge of the WC though.
The anc can have koeberg. We dont need it. We have so much potential with sun and wind technology in the WC
Anyway I want Orania to thrive and grow 20 times more as well. It is a sort of safe haven for my people and therefore I will support them when- and wherever I can.
@HoppeanSnake_ZA we have to look at options that makes sense right now. Its not a perfect option that I mentioned its merely a start for us as Afrikaners.
@Penkop the farming industry is a couple billion in the WC,we can increase that with more farmers here and international trading.Russian is cut off through sanctions so we can export all our fruits and produce to them.
I said it before we play the democracy game to our advantage until we reach a point where we can seek self determination
swinging like King Solomon i see
"One of the stupidest things the National Party ever did was, in the 1950s and 1960s, to hound a fairly moderate ANC into the arms of the Soviet Union and the East Germans. The Soviet embrace infused much hard-left thinking into the party which culminated in the ANC’s 1969 endorsement of the theory of National Democratic Revolution (NDR), which had earlier (in 1962) been taken on board by the South African Communist Party.
The NDR theory was based on Lenin’s theory of imperialism, which claimed that the wealth of the colonial powers arose solely from their oppression and exploitation of the colonised. From this foundation, Lenin argued that the purpose of anti-colonial revolutions must always be to dispossess the coloniser – and then embrace communism – failing which the colonised could never be free.
The SACP made this theory applicable to South Africa by developing the notion of ‘colonialism of a special type’ – to mean that both the coloniser and the colonised lived together inside the same country, into which the coloniser had become permanently integrated. But, the argument went, despite that integration, white/capitalist prosperity remained solely the result of the oppression and exploitation of the black majority, and indeed prolonged that poverty – and that the coloniser, despite his integration, would have to be dispossessed if the colonised were ever to be free. The ANC has annually recommitted to the NDR, right up to this year."
where is this quotes from?
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@Gonzo @HoppeanSnake_ZA Didn't Willem say that Orania is looking into acquiring a port town or some type of ocean-going ability? What if the Orania movement forms other groups or helps other groups to set up their own Orania-type settlements. Why must things be restricted to an "Orania or bust" mindset? Although I do agree with the gentleman who said that Orania certainly has a 20 year headstart! If the Orania movement could start similar settlements in other parts of SA, particularly in the WC, as someones suggests, I think that would be a start. I'm sure the Orania leadership has thought/heard about any number of suggested plans for a future Afrikaner Volkstaat, but I think they have to be careful about how public they are about their plans/aspirations. Does anyone know any info about Kleinfontein? Aren't they similar to Orania?
Gavin McInnes + Proud Boys were permanently banned from twitter. RIP
cool and nice
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Rest is for the weak lol