We could be talking about slightly too square chin, or short hair no breasts male-fitted jeans, yknow

I worked with a bloke that had a job in Thailand. He got himself a prozzie, took her back and started fucking her up the arse, when he went to give her the reach arond he grabbed a pair of balls. He carried on fucking 'her'. Is he gay?

Was he looking for balls? Did he mind the balls?

It's gay in the sense that it's two biological dudes banging but the lines get blurred because of one party's specific portrayal as female

the actual point of "is someone gay" is with the intent

Otherwise getting raped by a man makes YOU gay

Yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c

He didn't go looking for a bloke but didn't stop when he found out it was. Gay or not gay?

Bisexual

no, he's not attracted to men.

he's clearly gay

I mean, if he's not attracted to men he's straight

after he found out, it became intent, so he's clearly got the gay

In this day and age (especially in Thailand) if you don’t check beforehand you’re gonna have a bad time.

if you gotta go to thailand to effectively rape a slave

You kinda deserve it

That too.

I never understood why so many people want to go there tbh.

It’s like the thing everyone does after the military here.

most are pedo's and/or losers who can't get any

Usually its either vietnam or thailand.

Good diving there.

Thailand has great beaches

Been listening to the Kavanaugh hearing, and it's infuriating.

I don't understand why abortion is a 'human right' they seem to hold so fucking dear...

Anyone care to tell me why a person should have a right to an abortion on demand?

ive talked to people who think abortion is a more important right than freedom of speach

'I should be able to associate with whomever I please' *cheers*

'I should be able to speak my mind without the government arresting me' *cheers*

'I should be able to fuck recklessly and have an abortion 5 months later because being irresponsible doesn't end with unprotected sex' *cheers*

I would even settle for government being completely hands off on the subject, though.

Like, sure, kill your damned baby with your own misguided sense of morality. But don't expect the government to pay for it.

Specifically, don't expect ME to pay for it.

I don't get the whole mantra about 'My Body, My Choice'.

Because, when dealing with an unborn child at any point past the egg implating you're no longer dealing with 'your body'. It has different DNA than you do.

I see the argument for children of rape because it's like, it'll tangibly psychologically fuck the mother up and the child will be unloved/neglected/abused as a vessel or thrown to the adoption system

But "Oh no I didn't use protection, ah well best go get an abortion haha no biggie" is callous and cold

I came across Tim through his video on Michelle Wolf

COMPLETELY agreed

In an ideal world abortions would be unnecessary so the issue's morally grey for me but generally I'm pro-life

I, for the most part, wouldn't be opposed to 'prescribed' abortions

As in, a doctor can show, medically, that it was a life-saving procedure

but as it is, it's generally used less to save someone's life, and more to save someone's lifestyle.

Yeah

"But raising a child would cost ridiculous amounts of money, money I don't have"

You know what's more expensive

I can't even take expense into the equation myself.

The entire point of it is hedonism.

*less

condoms?

Yes, sorry, lag

Birth control pills?

Pretty much any form of contraception

Including but not limited to really ugly glasses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/birth_control_glasses

Those feels when I'm a 19 year old virgin who's been in catholic schooling all his life with more sex ed knowledge than the far left combined

👌

wait wait wait, you had more sex ed than abstinence only?

was this knowledge actually learned in school or the internet?

He googled a woman once.

In school they actually were like "OKAY so ONE DAY you'll be married and oh fuck it you're british teenagers okay so here's the lowdown"

lmao

It's why the UK has drug information sites even though drugs are illegal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFBTZp27WUA

Better you do shit against the rules *safely*

see, its because you are british. Vs the US which would result in more likely being Hugh Laurie.

I don't appreciate that one bit

Whatever happened to adoption? That used to be encouraged as a more ethical choice for those ill-equipped to care for children.

It's fucked. Foster care AFAIK is more fucked though

All I've heard is that adoption is super expensive.

I wonder how many kids get adopted vs. stay in foster care.

Its ungodly expensive i heard

especially for gay couples seeking to adopt

this is assuming they are even allowed

in some places

I'm not particularly concerned with 'adoption' or 'foster care'. Those systems have serious problems, too.

Foster care is dependent.

The root problem is the culture of promiscuity and hedonism.

Cayse the subject is less a child more of a tenant.

Also deviancy.

I dont know if the right thing is to expose a child to deviancy at so young an age.

Deviancy has it's own problems, but often times impregnation isn't one of them...

What I advocate for is choice.

Making the right damn choice 'before' you have to destroy a human to erase your mistake.

If the abortion is done because the woman's choice was taken away from her, I.E. Rape, I 100% understand in that case

But in the grand scheme of things, those scenarios are EXTREMELY rare

Taken the words out of my mouth.

Like if you cant handle a child, stop sleeping around so much, use better contraceptives.

*yes* contraceptives can fail.

You decrease the chances the more methods you use.

Then you know the 100% contraceptive that works?

Not being a thot or stud.

Not fucking a girl unless it's someone you wouldn't mind having children with in the first place?

Here's the thing, as a man, I will 100% back this up. If I had a child, I would support that child willingly from childhood to adulthood.

Problem is

If the woman wants it or dosent. The man has no choice in the matter.

I mean, those are the rules by which society runs today.

In an interesting turn of events, Tim happened to give probably the best 'pro choice' argument I think I've heard.

It's the usual libertarian stance.

It's actually pretty close to my personal stance, actually.

Oh, I'm all for protecting life. But not just in utero. Cradle to grave.

It's pretty close to my own, as well

except I come at it from a conservative libertarian stance

the interesting thing is seeing his angle, and noting the subtleties.

I'm really apathetic on abortion, TBH

the differences, and realizing that's where politics needs to go back to.

I think it's absolutely a valid fear as far as the Conservative side of things goes

that they might actually try to ban ALL forms of abortion.

And I'm not for that, either.

Abortion needs to be a procedure considered solemnly, like surgery or chemo.

I absolutely don't think an organization like Planned Parenthood takes it sufficiently seriously, especially given it's roots.

And the fanaticism surrounding the process is absolutely top-tier disgusting.

Oh, PP getting public money I'm against. I'm not really for anyone getting public money like that without good cause.

Can also agree that if it's surgery, it needs to be treated as such. We've somehow it a point where surgery is treated rather flippantly overall.

im not for paying for another individuals mistakes

I dont mind helping victims of rape however

I don't know where this new blasé attitude toward abortion came from. It's bizarre.

@GingaBomber I'm of the stance, that in the case of rape, it should be paid as part of the punishment.

I dont mind helping the person.

Not exactly the

Payment part? Well, its part of paying damages

But what if the woman decides to keep the child?

And its a false accusation?

If it's a false accusation things get much harder. Part of the issue is that if you just subsidize it, you create an incentive to lie.

From what I've read, bans fail to reduce abortion rates.

In communist Romania, it caused health problens

Including a spike in Hep C rates

Yes and that is why you want a 3 party abortion system where you have to talk to a "pro life" faction that wants to save the child.

Than 72h to think about that

and THEN you might (or not) get the Abortion

Id argue to just privatise the whole thing

I dont want to pay tax dollars for this.

Then of course we get the american healthcare, which is also a joke

Yeah you still need a "neutral" instance in that shit so that it doesn't get crazier...

as for abortions: Aren't most aborted childs black?

I don't think so. However, most planned parenthood centres are placed near black areas.

I like the idea of the crisis health centres. They talk to the patients, offers them other methods, before giving the abortion.

Yes, it's about supporting a culture of life. Discouraging the termination of pregnancies and then wanting to be "hands off" from there out isn't a pro-life stance, in my opinion.

I think that if South Africa wants to turn farms over to blacks, they should have to pass a basic test to see if they are compodent, "Why do Americans lover Peanut butter?"

Naa, Blacks are Geniusses, that's why their Countrys work so well...

How many urbanites from anywhere in the world can answer that question?

Also, I have a question, Is it just me or does Tim's viewer base consist of a lot of conservatives? I was just wondering people's take on this, because since he himself is a social liberal I expected more centrists and centre leftists

NO, its sentient people with their own mind and thoughts. That doesn't translate to Conservative.

According to the Political Compasses I'm either a Lefty or Centrist for example.

They are just not the hard far left Communist type...

I don't mean that, I mean most of the people in his yt comment section seem to identify

but except for those, the Viewership is pretty diverse I'd say.

Conservative also doesn't always mean right wing even if that's what most people use it to mean.

as conservative

from what they say

Like I was pretty vocal about gay rights 10-15 years ago, and now that that's pretty well established I'd like to conserve that as it is.

But yeah I'd say he has a sizable conservative audience, but I think a lot of that is just that you don't hear from conservatives much in most parts of the internet

As for the people here the main commonality seems to be anti-authoritarianism but I'd say there's a fair amount of diversity aside from that

Well I am for sure a centrist

Got the political compass test to prove it

I myself am a rather acceptive social liberal, so I'm kind of pissed with the lack of objectivity and political diversity with the left nowadays. I'm just iritated with their lack of interesit in centrist and conservative opinions. I see few of them in centrist yt videos

I am an offensive moderate, I offend everyone

As a centrist i respect klan's ability to offend everyone

and I see more on the conservative side on centrist videos, which iritates me, the left is supposed tio be diverse

Today that commitment to diversity appears to be skin deep

^

My propasal on how to stop "Gun Violence", Every student has to take a firearms safety class. DNC-OH NO YOU ARE TEACHING KIDS TO USE GUNS! GOP-OH NO, YOU ARE MANDATING EDUCATIONS! Libertarians- OH NO, MORE TAX PAYER FUNDED CRAP!

The problem stems from the fact that the left started assuming they had the moral high ground

this is because for a very long while they did have the moral high ground

Last big issue they made a push for was LGBT rights

so as a result they tried

the moral high ground? and ended up being shallow and actually authoritarian

Well they did get a large base from that

after all i dont think people here would argue that you should not be able to marry a legal adult of the same sex if they consent

Then intersectionality got introduced to them

tbh, as someone who's actually bent I don't care at all for gay marriage

Yeah, I think the closest thing to arguing that you'd see here is that some would say the government should have no place in marriages

I think marriage is just not really that important

When you say dont care you mean you're against it or you dont consider it an issue?

I mean I just dont consider

it an issue as much

ah, gotcha

as other lgbt things

```As for the people here the main commonality seems to be anti-authoritarianism```
Naa, I'm pretty authoritaon on one or two issues...

Considering in the US at least that marriage has monetary benefits associated I'd consider it a big deal that gay people should be able to marry the people they want

Intersectionality basically says that you should help people with their issues even if you dont know anything about them

Thank god I come from Ireland, it's probably the most politicaly diverse and acceptive western countryin europe I know of

Aside from it just being a moral issue that people should have equal rights of course

Now you have a bunch of people who have literally no knowledge about political events or processes and no reason to do what they do save for the moral superiority they had when they were campaigning for LGBT rights trying to persuade people about other issues

Thus emotional/moral arguments become the norm when you try to mobilize the base into action

That's just kind of the issue with progressivism being so ingrained in the left. It's always a forward motion. Once you achieve your goal you have to find a new one or you lose a lot of your purpose

It's amusing because most of the actual people who paint themselves as, "progressive," only recently started accepting gays and such

*points at Hillary*

And those who really did just care about the issues rather than making a career out of them are then going to drop out of the race leaving behind the crazies and the inexperienced

*coughs* Bernie Sanders

Theres other problems too, now that your base assumes they have the moral high ground and feel that what they're doing is right you have everything you need from them

discussion of the issues becomes counteractive to your cause since it can only splinter or divide your movement

I agree, but no movement should accept extreme authoritarians and virtue signallers

Im sure that there are people who have investigated the issues and think that what the left is doing is correct, morally and otherwise.

As in they should debate them I mean

Right. I have never considered myself traditionalist, much closer to anti-traditionalist in the past, but I think we do a bad job at remembering history's important lessons.
Like we all know 'the path to hell is paved with good intentions', but so many people just hear the saying and dismiss it because it's just a popular saying and those sorts of things rarely get given good explanations other than "everyone knows that"

not kick them out

straight away

Makes sense caustic

Although authoritarians should be kicked out asap, they will only corrupt and seek to control the movement

yeah but some authoritarians are just misinformed

they've probably never heard of a reasonable counter argument

Im not saying dont debate them or dont let them speak

to their beliefs

What i am saying is dont let them into the party

Yeah

Shed brought up a good point too, history's lessons are often lost in translation

What do you guys think about Nancy Pelosi?

The point of history is to provide a perspective, to show how things react and how outside forces keep working. The lesson from history classes should be that there is a grand game being played and everyone is an essential part of it, regardless of whether they realize it or not.

Yes

Agree with her one some things and disagree with her on others

For example I am strongly in favor of allowing confederate monuments to stand because of how well the US held itself together post civil war

same, but I completely despise her because of how much money she's gotten off big corporations

Those monuments are a part of culture/history of the south and they are as a american as it gets

policy wise, some things I agree but some things I disagree on

For better or worse those people fought and died for what they thought would be a better future. The soldiers and leaders deserve to be honored and remembered.

^

Though I think that such a truth should not make people forget one of the main causes for the civil war

People who say that the war was about slavery are correct. People who say that the war was about states rights are correct too.

The war was a question: Should the federal government in the US should have enough power to completely ruin the economy of a large portion of the country?

Yeah, I agree, maybe war was necessary; but they commited some atrocities in the name of the federal government that left

the south in ruin

Indeed, which is why the reconstruction was so vital that the North not occupy the south, but help them rebuild and go hands off as much as possible.

There are many people who think that the Union should have occupied the south and forced them to change their ways.

There should have been an operation to revitalise the southern economy

The south being left in ruin leads to a lot of people becoming far right, it was foolish of the north to have banned slavery, ruin the south and then not try fix the southern economy

It leads to political divide

There was no option for most of the south to be revitalized

They were based entirely around slave agricultural cash crops with very little industry or natural resources to go with it

Yeah, but many countries have been reformed drasticaly

I think if the federal government had spent money on building industry there

it would not have been as bad

Whatever they would have built wouldve been overshadowed by the northern version as they had been operating longer doing the same tasks

Not if they spent a long time constantly investing in southern industry

but that would be quite a complex thing to do

Indeed and its never as simple as it sounds.

I mean it's possible, it's just that it'd be very difficult and I mean very

The issue is that theres nothing to improve and no missing industry

Bro, have you ever heard of Ireland or Singapore?

Came from nothing, almsot no natural resources (Ireland only has some fish)

>Singapore
>no natural resources

It does have almost none though

They import most of their stuff

It's just that they are good with what little they have, same as Ireland

Besides the circumstances are different

Ye I just meant in general

there's got to be a way

Singapore was being industrialized at a point where foreigners were willing to invest heavily in industry

That feeling didnt exist until after world war two. Prior to that all nations wanted as much domestic industry as possible.

Yeah that is a good point I probably should have thought of

Ill have to study Ireland a bit more before i understand how they achieved their current status