Message from @Tal,Karpov,AlekhineAllCoolGuys

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2018-09-05 18:44:07 UTC  

The south being left in ruin leads to a lot of people becoming far right, it was foolish of the north to have banned slavery, ruin the south and then not try fix the southern economy

2018-09-05 18:44:19 UTC  

It leads to political divide

2018-09-05 18:45:42 UTC  

There was no option for most of the south to be revitalized

2018-09-05 18:46:16 UTC  

They were based entirely around slave agricultural cash crops with very little industry or natural resources to go with it

2018-09-05 18:46:37 UTC  

Yeah, but many countries have been reformed drasticaly

2018-09-05 18:46:58 UTC  

I think if the federal government had spent money on building industry there

2018-09-05 18:47:06 UTC  

it would not have been as bad

2018-09-05 18:48:18 UTC  

Whatever they would have built wouldve been overshadowed by the northern version as they had been operating longer doing the same tasks

2018-09-05 18:48:53 UTC  

Not if they spent a long time constantly investing in southern industry

2018-09-05 18:49:24 UTC  

but that would be quite a complex thing to do

2018-09-05 18:51:59 UTC  

Indeed and its never as simple as it sounds.

2018-09-05 18:53:31 UTC  

I mean it's possible, it's just that it'd be very difficult and I mean very

2018-09-05 18:54:50 UTC  

The issue is that theres nothing to improve and no missing industry

2018-09-05 18:57:04 UTC  

Bro, have you ever heard of Ireland or Singapore?

2018-09-05 18:57:20 UTC  

Came from nothing, almsot no natural resources (Ireland only has some fish)

2018-09-05 18:57:54 UTC  

>Singapore
>no natural resources

2018-09-05 18:58:38 UTC  

It does have almost none though

2018-09-05 18:58:47 UTC  

They import most of their stuff

2018-09-05 18:59:02 UTC  

It's just that they are good with what little they have, same as Ireland

2018-09-05 18:59:30 UTC  

Besides the circumstances are different

2018-09-05 18:59:41 UTC  

Ye I just meant in general

2018-09-05 18:59:47 UTC  

there's got to be a way

2018-09-05 18:59:52 UTC  

Singapore was being industrialized at a point where foreigners were willing to invest heavily in industry

2018-09-05 19:00:23 UTC  

That feeling didnt exist until after world war two. Prior to that all nations wanted as much domestic industry as possible.

2018-09-05 19:01:14 UTC  

Yeah that is a good point I probably should have thought of

2018-09-05 19:01:53 UTC  

Ill have to study Ireland a bit more before i understand how they achieved their current status

2018-09-05 19:02:37 UTC  

Most of my studies has been on the post world war two history of Asian countires

2018-09-05 19:04:20 UTC  

I know a lot about Ireland, It gained its riches from good trade relations, low corporate tax making tons of beef then spent the money gained on educating people and thus also leading in the pharmaceutical industry. Summed up very simplisticly and shortly

2018-09-05 19:13:49 UTC  

Not saying it couldn't be done, but I don't think that what worked for Ireland would be entirely relevant to what could work for the American south. Just Texas alone is 10 times the size of Ireland and a thousand times bigger than Singapore

2018-09-05 19:16:52 UTC  

Yeah I get what you mean, when it comes to industralisation obv the larger the harder

2018-09-05 19:17:02 UTC  

it is to do

2018-09-06 16:24:24 UTC  

Did you know that the legend of Saint Patrick was about the man who drove the original black inhabitants out of Ireland

2018-09-06 16:24:56 UTC  

Ireland was originally an afro-centric colony thats why they are so good at making music

2018-09-06 16:36:25 UTC  

OK?

2018-09-06 16:36:45 UTC  

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2018-09-07 07:16:14 UTC  

I'm fairly certain that's wrong, you got a source on that? From what I know it's about him driving the druids from Ireland and converting the people to Catholicism since he believed that the druids were "snakes" as in symbols of evil/charlatans

2018-09-07 07:16:22 UTC  

Source: I'm irish

2018-09-07 07:57:20 UTC  
2018-09-07 07:59:23 UTC  

Those kind of theories quite fascinating me, where you look at author you cannot be sure how much of it its trolling and how much is actually beliving that shit.

2018-09-07 08:41:55 UTC  

Really? That's strange, I've never heard of the Twa people before and my granddad is very into his Irish history, so it's just a little surprising to me.

2018-09-07 08:45:26 UTC  

Yeah, AskHistorians is saying the Twa people being from Ireland was a myth invented around the 1800s-1900s