Message from @RyeNorth
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Then you know the 100% contraceptive that works?
Not being a thot or stud.
Not fucking a girl unless it's someone you wouldn't mind having children with in the first place?
Here's the thing, as a man, I will 100% back this up. If I had a child, I would support that child willingly from childhood to adulthood.
Problem is
If the woman wants it or dosent. The man has no choice in the matter.
I mean, those are the rules by which society runs today.
In an interesting turn of events, Tim happened to give probably the best 'pro choice' argument I think I've heard.
It's the usual libertarian stance.
It's actually pretty close to my personal stance, actually.
Oh, I'm all for protecting life. But not just in utero. Cradle to grave.
It's pretty close to my own, as well
except I come at it from a conservative libertarian stance
the interesting thing is seeing his angle, and noting the subtleties.
I'm really apathetic on abortion, TBH
the differences, and realizing that's where politics needs to go back to.
I think it's absolutely a valid fear as far as the Conservative side of things goes
that they might actually try to ban ALL forms of abortion.
And I'm not for that, either.
Abortion needs to be a procedure considered solemnly, like surgery or chemo.
I absolutely don't think an organization like Planned Parenthood takes it sufficiently seriously, especially given it's roots.
And the fanaticism surrounding the process is absolutely top-tier disgusting.
Oh, PP getting public money I'm against. I'm not really for anyone getting public money like that without good cause.
Can also agree that if it's surgery, it needs to be treated as such. We've somehow it a point where surgery is treated rather flippantly overall.
im not for paying for another individuals mistakes
I dont mind helping victims of rape however
I don't know where this new blasé attitude toward abortion came from. It's bizarre.
@GingaBomber I'm of the stance, that in the case of rape, it should be paid as part of the punishment.
I dont mind helping the person.
Not exactly the
Payment part? Well, its part of paying damages
But what if the woman decides to keep the child?
And its a false accusation?
If it's a false accusation things get much harder. Part of the issue is that if you just subsidize it, you create an incentive to lie.
From what I've read, bans fail to reduce abortion rates.
In communist Romania, it caused health problens
Including a spike in Hep C rates
Yes and that is why you want a 3 party abortion system where you have to talk to a "pro life" faction that wants to save the child.
Than 72h to think about that
and THEN you might (or not) get the Abortion
Id argue to just privatise the whole thing