#demonstration_tactics (Discord ID: 321379234977153034) in Charlottesville 2.0, page 1


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2017-06-07 14:16:47 UTC

The main demonstration will involve setting up a podium in front of the General Lee statue for the speakers and then forming a white bloc barrier or square around the entire statue + podium. The larger, outer formation will be progressively cuckier as it moves out meaning the the inner group and square around the VIPs should consist of all alt-right activists. @everyone

2017-06-07 14:22:10 UTC

And given that they know we're coming, we'll all need as many people as possible to be there right when the park opens.

2017-06-07 14:24:51 UTC

When does Lee Park open?

2017-06-07 14:27:04 UTC

2017-06-07 14:27:10 UTC

2017-06-07 14:46:22 UTC

Everyone in the inner circle must also be explicitly aware that antifa/surj will try to get through. At the last event [REDACTED] walked right up to the circle and our guys like cleared a path for him. I walked over to make sure he wasn't going to do anything funny. Our guys need to be ready to hold position and make it so that we are a solid barrier to stop antifa from coming through.

2017-06-07 15:01:36 UTC

Shield wall?

2017-06-07 15:02:16 UTC

The carolina guys have been talking about getting shields...haha

2017-06-07 15:02:34 UTC

So that may be possible

2017-06-07 15:42:53 UTC

I already have one. Completely game

2017-06-07 15:57:07 UTC

TWP has shields

2017-06-07 15:57:14 UTC

Both TWP symbols and celtic crosses

2017-06-07 15:58:47 UTC

Anyone have stencils? Thinking of getting that shield and would want to put something on it and would use then when I arrive. If not ill figure it out beforehand.

2017-06-07 16:04:02 UTC

Shield wall sounds delightful

2017-06-07 16:32:28 UTC

Did you guys build these shields you have or purchase them?

2017-06-07 16:50:43 UTC

@MatthewHeimbach Those new shields my cohost sent you should come in handy again....

2017-06-07 17:09:13 UTC

If we are planning on doing a shield wall I suggest learning how to actually fight in a shield wall. Watch some SCA videos on the subject.

2017-06-07 17:11:27 UTC

Start with these. Go through all three parts. They have incredibly good tips that you won't get from studying riot shield tactics

2017-06-07 17:11:30 UTC

I will construct a Huwite power shield

2017-06-07 17:12:57 UTC

Make sure you find time to practice what you learn before the event. Our local group will be doing lots of training before Charlottesville.

2017-06-07 17:13:31 UTC

Absolutely

2017-06-07 17:18:28 UTC

Vanguard Texas and Louisiana have shields with our logo painted on

2017-06-07 17:36:48 UTC

Check out the Demonstration_tactics tag. There have been a discussion about shields there.

2017-06-07 18:32:40 UTC

@Heinz - MI Agree. We need the same for our Atl group

2017-06-07 19:00:51 UTC

@Albrecht von Wallenstein the gym I go to has a week of free membership with no conditions. It also has a boxing area with punching bag being set up. If any of you atl guys are interested in that I could easily meet there

2017-06-07 19:06:52 UTC

@MatthewHeimbach what are your shields made out off? Vanguard makes our Shields out of Baltic birch... I've thrown a hatchet at mine pretty durable stuff

2017-06-07 19:40:28 UTC

#1300optics

2017-06-07 22:16:26 UTC

I know I'm not the only one thinking we need a large, synchonized dance routine.

2017-06-07 22:16:31 UTC

am-I-right?!

2017-06-07 22:22:49 UTC

^^ something the women SHOULD coordinate

2017-06-08 12:13:34 UTC

@Andrew-- Have you met with any of our people in Atlanta?

2017-06-08 18:43:18 UTC
2017-06-09 14:38:40 UTC

@Scott Terry I have an embarrassing level of fondness for synchronized dance routines 😂

2017-06-11 01:03:35 UTC

good thread

2017-06-11 23:17:24 UTC

we need 4 lines of people just smoking blunts

2017-06-11 23:42:46 UTC

Pot is for nogs

2017-06-14 21:54:46 UTC

2017-06-14 22:01:42 UTC

@everyone We need to do a march along with the rally. Should we do it on the Downtown Mall (which is closed to traffic) or should we march through the streets the way they did in Berkeley?

2017-06-14 22:02:28 UTC

Blocking streets gives PD a reason to (((Shut it down!)))

2017-06-14 22:02:48 UTC

If you march on the streets, get a permit first

2017-06-14 22:02:55 UTC

I think the downtown mall would be better because that is where a lot of the mob incidences have been happening

2017-06-14 22:03:56 UTC

The mall. The photos will be better if they have landmarks in the background.

2017-06-14 22:04:27 UTC

It will get very expensive very fast if we start asking to close down streets in advance. We'd have to pay off duty police officers

2017-06-14 22:05:09 UTC

@Dreiiaa (TWPVA) There's no doubt we should march through the Downtown Mall. My only wonder is whether we should keep it contained there

2017-06-14 22:05:38 UTC

The downtown mall is public and the police wouldn't be able to remove us without violating our First Amendment rights

2017-06-14 22:06:29 UTC

Decision: For now we will not plan to march through the street and block traffic. But if Antifa does we should be able to confront them about it

2017-06-14 22:28:33 UTC

Is there any way the march through streets or mall can be an unofficial thing?

2017-06-14 22:28:54 UTC

Like, oh the rally is over now everyone enjoy the mall and the bars

2017-06-14 23:16:22 UTC

We marched last time with no permits in 2 rows down the sidewalk with runners in safety vests stopping traffic long enough for us to cross.

2017-06-14 23:30:11 UTC

Let's not street march and look like assholes. Sidewalks is one thing, but straight through the streets like they did a few weeks ago for the 'community defense' March was awful (Antifa)

2017-06-14 23:30:32 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/324692110680784919/image.jpg

2017-06-14 23:30:57 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/324692220391325696/image.jpg

2017-06-14 23:31:38 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/324692391762067458/image.jpg

2017-06-14 23:32:48 UTC

These fools had babies and children in the streets dragging banners over cars blocking their view and such. Too bad the civilians didn't just make new speed bumps for some of these scum.

2017-06-14 23:40:21 UTC

They really do have a disgusting culture

2017-06-14 23:41:25 UTC

Yeah. What is with the black and white Aesthetics?

2017-06-14 23:43:18 UTC

Larping as being members of the old Civil Rights Era.

2017-06-14 23:44:42 UTC

Yep.

2017-06-14 23:51:42 UTC

Women are you trying to dictate tactics again?

2017-06-14 23:53:29 UTC

There are women here?

2017-06-14 23:54:05 UTC

lol. never know where to invite my grrl.

2017-06-14 23:57:02 UTC

The Downtown Mall march will be unannounced to the public but we'll coordinate it among the leadership and let folks know prior to the event

2017-06-15 00:04:31 UTC

Pink names = women

2017-06-15 00:19:51 UTC

yeah i invited my gf and hopefully she does not have to work this day, requested it off and they asked why so she actually told them ... hopefully goes over ok.

2017-06-15 01:25:49 UTC

i dont think bringing your 3d's to this is a good idea

2017-06-15 01:30:19 UTC

IE will have a 3D squad.

2017-06-15 01:33:36 UTC

if we're anticipating violence, id keep the woman you love away

2017-06-15 01:51:43 UTC

^^ why would you bring women to an event where there will be known hostilities...?

2017-06-15 02:09:32 UTC

1. We don't actually expect violence. That's just larping. Antifa only instigates when they have a massive numerical advantage, which they will not, here.

2017-06-15 02:09:50 UTC

2. The womenfolk have their own cordon, far behind the men. They will be fine.

2017-06-15 02:17:36 UTC

I think that Vanguard and the DRW have a similar view on 3Ds at inflammatory events

2017-06-15 02:24:13 UTC

Bringing women to a protest/rally where we expect violence is fucking retarded.

2017-06-15 02:24:28 UTC

Keep them in the rear.

2017-06-15 02:25:24 UTC

How can you not expect violence when this was a major loss to them before and they have more time to plan now. They've been proven to be violent at large events

2017-06-15 02:25:57 UTC

Also, even if you aren't expecting violence, you should prepare for it. Underestimating Antifa's will to escalate is retarded as well.

2017-06-15 02:26:04 UTC

I'm trying to figure out how expecting violence is larping?

2017-06-15 02:26:18 UTC

Is everything larping these days?

2017-06-15 02:27:22 UTC

@Heinz - MI That's what I was saying. They will be the rear, as I understand.

2017-06-15 02:27:46 UTC

Maybe I am mistaken.

2017-06-15 02:27:58 UTC

In which case, someone else is tactically mistaken.

2017-06-15 02:28:32 UTC

You realize the violence can happen anywhere around the event?

2017-06-15 02:28:58 UTC

Like a parking lot or something before and after the event

2017-06-15 02:29:24 UTC

Obviously. Travel in groups, always.

2017-06-15 02:29:38 UTC

After is probably the most dangerous time.

2017-06-15 02:29:47 UTC

Okay so this is still an unnecessary risk

2017-06-15 02:30:33 UTC

If we are bringing women, they should be kept within a perimeter.

2017-06-15 02:30:33 UTC

Unnecessary? It's a cost-benefit analysis.

2017-06-15 02:30:48 UTC

@Heinz - MI That is my current understanding.

2017-06-15 02:31:05 UTC

It better be true, for their sake.

2017-06-15 02:31:08 UTC

And ours.

2017-06-15 02:31:16 UTC

We need a map of the location we will be at. If this is just a standard rally where we will be in one place, we can easily set a perimeter.

2017-06-15 02:31:24 UTC

Beyond that, we need to figure out parking details.

2017-06-15 02:31:33 UTC

It's a march. Need a bubble to shield them.

2017-06-15 02:31:35 UTC

If need be, we can organize a shuttle system for people that park far away.

2017-06-15 02:31:50 UTC

We will have to. I'm sure we will exceed standard parking.

2017-06-15 02:32:06 UTC

Also, we will need detailed and planned routes from where we park, to wherever we are going that EVERYONE follows.

2017-06-15 02:32:25 UTC

And showing up early

2017-06-15 02:32:35 UTC

Last time at CVille 1.0 a lot of people left in small 4-5 person groups. It wasn't a big deal then, but there will be a much stronger antifa presence at this one.

2017-06-15 02:32:48 UTC

We all need to leave at the same time, and going to the same place.

2017-06-15 02:32:52 UTC

Agreed.

2017-06-15 02:33:05 UTC

Our group was huge, and we adopted a group of two to take to their vehicle.

2017-06-15 02:33:19 UTC

That's why I think a shuttle system would be good. Where we have several people responsible for large vans that park nearby the event that can shuttle others to parking lots farther away.

2017-06-15 02:33:35 UTC

That is a great idea.

2017-06-15 02:33:40 UTC

Agreed.

2017-06-15 02:33:43 UTC

If we know the locations of where we will be marching, lets get them up now.

2017-06-15 02:34:06 UTC

AFAIK this server is private, so unless we plan on bringing a bunch of randos in we can do it here.

2017-06-15 02:35:04 UTC

Those several people can be the medics. Anyone injured can go to the van as well.

2017-06-15 02:35:09 UTC

No. This server is absolutely not private.

2017-06-15 02:35:19 UTC

We need to get this set in stone far enough in advance that we can all remember it, at least the group leaders. If something happens where we get compromised, we can have enough time to chnage plans without having to panic.

2017-06-15 02:35:33 UTC

Wait this is a public server?

2017-06-15 02:35:38 UTC

Call some friends in your groups.

2017-06-15 02:35:47 UTC

This is public.

2017-06-15 02:35:49 UTC

Yes, it's a public server.

2017-06-15 02:35:53 UTC

wtf

2017-06-15 02:36:05 UTC

was there an announcement or something?

2017-06-15 02:36:09 UTC

Which is why I am expecting violence

2017-06-15 02:36:10 UTC

Yes

2017-06-15 02:36:20 UTC

This is everyone's ball game.

2017-06-15 02:36:54 UTC

Most of the severe planning should be held within your group, if you're in one

2017-06-15 02:37:11 UTC

But I agree we need vans for everyone

2017-06-15 02:38:14 UTC

Designated shuttle vehicles of some kind at least

2017-06-15 02:38:47 UTC

most of the sever planning should have fucking been in here

2017-06-15 02:39:01 UTC

since we had a secure discord server for it already

2017-06-15 02:39:02 UTC

jfc

2017-06-15 02:51:59 UTC

@пидорновичок unless Jason or Eli made this server public without telling me (which I doubt they would do) this isn't a public server. It's invite only through our trusted, pre-vetted alt-right servers. Not sure who told you it's public. We haven't even opened up this server to proud boys or the alt-lite because the other mods, event coordinators, and myself are all aware they act like kikes.

2017-06-15 05:47:38 UTC

Parking is a nightmare where this is occurring, I'm sure some of you know that. We do have several companies locally who rent out smaller sized busses etc, commonly for vineyard tours. A lot of people also rent busses from UVA to shuttle for special events or even the Charlottesville Trolley, which would make for some interesting optics. Renting a fleet of passenger vans from somewhere close by is another option. I will be attending with my husband in separate vehicles. I planned to be able to leave and help handle getting woman moved out if it got too bad. Utilizing a public school's parking lot nearby may be the largest free parking option for the masses.

2017-06-15 22:53:22 UTC

With the date being public, you can bet the left will be out scouting for our vehicles. Are there any secured lots nearby?

2017-06-15 23:21:09 UTC

@TiborSzalasi-MI there are places about 1 mil away to park if you dont mind the walk

2017-06-16 00:34:54 UTC

We'll have to coordinate this, it is a big safety issue.

2017-06-16 02:14:35 UTC

Yeah

2017-06-16 02:14:46 UTC

Walking a mile in small groups is literally an invitation to be fucked up

2017-06-16 02:14:57 UTC

Should really take the idea of a shuttle seriously

2017-06-16 03:20:51 UTC

There are only 2 garages in the area.

2017-06-16 03:30:51 UTC

UHaul cargo van would be cheap and could hold a good number of folks, it's not like we will be traveling far.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/325114980565254155/unknown.png

2017-06-16 03:32:57 UTC

This shows the dimensions better.

2017-06-16 04:29:33 UTC

There are two garages downtown. They're both fairly crammed on a regular basis. Even on a random day of the week it can take awhile to drive around and find somewhere to park on the street. Add this size event and I can only imagine the crowds. I'm thinking that you may want to look in to the possibility of an airbnb apartment in the immediate area, there are some apartments right by the park. Possibility an immediate safe house/escape place for anyone higher profile who is not interested in being involved in any foolishness. One with a birds eye view of the park for security purposes would be optimal. I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to close down the streets surrounding the park itself. @MadDimension have you looked in to that at all? the street on the library side at the least? Other than that having a dedicated crew of people to occupy the on street spots with vehicles surrounding the park would be ideal.

2017-06-16 07:37:34 UTC

@PrimitveXaocWhat are your credentials for planning ingress/egress?l

2017-06-16 07:38:29 UTC

We should designate someone to plan logistics in this regard. Parking, movement to and from the ao

2017-06-16 10:48:23 UTC

In this situation, my credentials happen to be the fact that I've lived here my entire life. How well do you know he area? Also, I was mostly speaking to Jason. Excuse me for offering suggestions.

2017-06-16 19:28:22 UTC

So are there any large parking lots close to the area that we can use that won't be full? Either a secured lot, or somewhere that has cameras? Like next to a bank?

2017-06-16 19:29:55 UTC

We should lock down an area where we can all park at that is close by, and a spot to act as a rally point for shuttles. We can't have people walking by themselves to their cars or hotels, and Uber is going to be unreliable.

2017-06-16 19:35:40 UTC

Garages could be good, but we need to check the clearances on them, as rental vans are quite tall. Is that something you could do @PrimitveXaoc since you live in the area?

2017-06-16 19:36:47 UTC

Alternatively, if parking is going to be an issue like you say, we could have every group that is bringing passenger vans park at the lots and garages that are nearby and shuttle everyone that attends to lots further away.

2017-06-16 19:37:06 UTC

There are only 3 public garages/lots that show up on google

2017-06-16 19:37:12 UTC

we likely wont fit in the garages

2017-06-16 19:37:28 UTC

there's street parking off in the neighborhood

2017-06-16 19:37:34 UTC

but thats dicey as well

2017-06-16 19:38:04 UTC

The lot we were in last time was close, and it had cameras watching it. We could park there, but it won't fit everybody.

2017-06-16 19:42:33 UTC

Either way I think the thing to stress here is that we CANNOT do what we did last time and just leave in groups of 3 or 4. We need to travel as one large group.

2017-06-16 19:46:09 UTC

So, in August the Farmer's market downtown is in full swing. That takes up one of the larger secure lots behind the mall beside the larger of the parking garages. For secure close parking I would suggest using the Omni hotel parking garage (private) which is right beside where you all parked last time.(from what I saw from the videos posted) From where I saw you walking in the videos. That one is at least gated and has open areas that do not require clearance. It is also the lesser used of all of the lots.

2017-06-16 19:46:47 UTC

Well, I'd suggest looking in to that as an option.

2017-06-16 19:47:06 UTC

Why don't we park on campus?

2017-06-16 19:47:26 UTC

School isn't in session and public school campuses are public access

2017-06-16 19:47:41 UTC

Shuttle from there

2017-06-16 19:47:57 UTC

Plus it will piss people off?

2017-06-16 19:48:10 UTC

This is where we parked last time.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/325360928482656256/unknown.png

2017-06-16 19:48:18 UTC

At least that's where my group parked.

2017-06-16 19:48:32 UTC

Is this the lot you are saying will be closed?

2017-06-16 19:49:07 UTC

I suggested that earlier as well, there are a few schools in the are none is truly close walking proximity but shuttling, yes.

2017-06-16 19:49:42 UTC

The Omni lot literally connects to that one. Just happens to be more secure, they have security watching the lot cameras etc.

2017-06-16 19:50:23 UTC

For egress, we start marching away all together and the shuttles will gradually pick up people from the front

2017-06-16 19:53:41 UTC

Is Omni parking available for the public, or do you need to be a guest? If it is covered, what is the clearance on the ceiling?

2017-06-16 19:53:47 UTC

That is not the lot that will be closed. It is one that fills up faster during the summer time. It really depends on if the locals are going to try to avoid the area like the plague that day.

2017-06-16 19:56:50 UTC

Or how many people will be in town for this event. We don't see a lot of things like this here locally and I imagine it will draw some sizable crowds from all sides.

2017-06-16 20:00:02 UTC

Part of me wishes we would crowd fund busses and leave from 5 miles away and roll up right next to the park like the New England Patriots.

2017-06-16 20:00:23 UTC

^^^ there you go 😂

2017-06-16 20:00:26 UTC

PARKING: People are either going to need to pay a few shekels to park in the Parking Garage about ($10 for the day) or we can shuttle them in from a nearby location like Darden-Towe Park

2017-06-16 20:00:51 UTC

When 6-10 bus loads pull up and unload everyone it would send a message

2017-06-16 20:01:22 UTC

Omni has open and closed lots and also will allow for busses to be parked there as well, you are not required to be a guest.

2017-06-16 20:03:10 UTC

We can probably shuttle people in, but the shuttles will need to be parked closeby. Omni should work if that's the case.

2017-06-16 20:03:21 UTC

@everyone It's absolutely critical that you not mill about in small groups, you'll get overtaken

2017-06-16 20:03:43 UTC

every possible effort should be made to link up as soon as possible, shuttling is probably the best bet

2017-06-16 20:04:08 UTC

@MadDimension Darden towe may possibly be packed that day I can check on the park schedules. Soccer games and other sports there. I was thinking Omni for Private or Clark School for public parking.

2017-06-16 20:05:29 UTC

Also, Monticello high school has sizable lots and is about a 5 min drive (straight shot) from the downtown mall and outside city limits.

2017-06-16 20:05:51 UTC

What about the McDonald's and Staples parking lots?

2017-06-16 20:06:23 UTC

The Parking Garage at Carver Rec is open to the public as well

2017-06-16 20:06:30 UTC

They have both started to crack down on parking.

2017-06-16 20:06:45 UTC

2017-06-16 20:06:48 UTC

2017-06-16 20:06:52 UTC

I was just going to mention Carver. It ultimately all depends on if there are any other events.

2017-06-16 20:07:03 UTC

2017-06-16 20:07:30 UTC

We need to make a list of solid parking locations. Carver should be #1. What else?

2017-06-16 20:07:33 UTC

Should be okay early on a Saturday

2017-06-16 20:08:01 UTC

There are the water street and market street garages

2017-06-16 20:08:19 UTC

those are the closest

2017-06-16 20:09:31 UTC

Water street lot between the metered lot and garage is closed down for the farmers market on Saturday's people start crowding that area heavily at 7am or earlier.

2017-06-16 20:09:41 UTC

ah

2017-06-16 20:09:43 UTC

good to know

2017-06-16 20:10:09 UTC

Look for somewhere 10 minutes outside of town that people could park cars at

2017-06-16 20:10:29 UTC

Downtown parking should be for all the vans we can muster primarily, secondarily for POVs

2017-06-16 20:10:36 UTC

There are a number of garages at the uni

2017-06-16 20:12:00 UTC

I've never crowd funded anything. Is there a fee to just opening a request?

2017-06-16 20:12:00 UTC

There are lots of people who like what we are doing that aren't going. What if we just started wesearcher requests. Some could be for crazy stuff (like a helicopter for Antifa rides). It would be funny and some of them might actually get funded. That would make planning much easier.

2017-06-16 20:12:41 UTC

@Tyrone Not just to open, but WeSearcher takes something like 15% off the top.

2017-06-16 20:13:41 UTC

I feel like garages would be unsafe if we have a pack of ferals following us. Or just generally unsafe since the entirety of Charlottesville will know about our presence this time. Idk. I made a point to find street parking about 10-15 minutes walking distance from where we were demonstrating last time.

2017-06-16 20:14:20 UTC

The Carver parking garage is a 5 minute walk from the event and should be safe

2017-06-16 20:14:32 UTC

So how much does it cost to rent a helicopter for the day?
Add 15% plus the initial fees

2017-06-16 20:14:57 UTC

If we hit that it would be fun News to put out into the tubes

2017-06-16 20:15:07 UTC

Plus its free. Market Street and Water Street garages are an option as well for those willing to play for parking

2017-06-16 20:15:35 UTC

For parking outside of town I would definitely suggest Monticello high school. (For shuttling)

2017-06-16 20:15:38 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/325367842138488844/image.jpg

2017-06-16 20:15:42 UTC

"Fascist Alt-Right rally is renting a Helicopter with extra fuel for one day Rally"

2017-06-16 20:16:19 UTC

All implicit. 100% message achieved.

2017-06-16 20:16:45 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/325368122120994818/image.jpg

2017-06-16 20:18:36 UTC

@Erika last time was a flash mob style event with almost no leftist presence

2017-06-16 20:18:52 UTC

This will be more similar to Berkeley in size"scope

2017-06-16 20:19:18 UTC

Since its summer all the shit heel leftists possible will be bussing in

2017-06-16 20:19:36 UTC

DC, Baltimore, Philly, Pittsburgh

2017-06-16 20:19:37 UTC

Do we have access to a bus or other high occupancy vehicle to shuttle our people in with?

2017-06-16 20:20:13 UTC

Someone who is local could look for bus rentals, maybe the company that does the schoolbusses

2017-06-16 20:20:32 UTC

We will have at least one guy with a CDL in attendance @Heinz - MI

2017-06-16 20:21:48 UTC

@everyone We need access to busses, vans and other high occupancy vehicles to shuttle in our people from parking lots. Please contact me ASAP if you have access to such a vehicle.

2017-06-16 20:21:59 UTC

2017-06-16 20:22:08 UTC

2017-06-16 20:23:14 UTC

I mentioned before it wouldn't be a bad idea to check with UVA about renting busses for shuttling. They do private events and this one is before school is back in session.

2017-06-16 20:24:11 UTC

Could you or someone else who is local check with them?

2017-06-16 20:25:46 UTC

I'm NOT counter signaling. I respect that attire has been set.
That said:
If everyone spent 25 bucks or less and showed up in UVA hats and shirts, it would be really funny

2017-06-16 20:26:30 UTC

that's actually a good idea, but for plainclothes spotters set up a block or so away in each direction with radios to the security team

2017-06-16 20:26:48 UTC

have them look like normie locals

2017-06-16 20:27:55 UTC

That's in the realm of things for the security team. Glad you like the concept.

2017-06-16 20:28:21 UTC

We could discuss this there but the channel appears to have been shoahed

2017-06-16 20:28:37 UTC

@Hand Banana you were in Charlottesville 1?

2017-06-16 20:28:48 UTC

using uva's shuttle system is a good thought, I didn't know they did private events but every time I've ever been to sports shit at john paul jones arena they're always really efficient on transporting a huge number of people to a from their parking lots. I wonder who to contact about that

2017-06-16 20:29:20 UTC

Yes I was

2017-06-16 20:29:57 UTC
2017-06-16 20:31:10 UTC

👌

2017-06-16 20:32:05 UTC

@MadDimension let me know if you'd like me to check on any of these options.

2017-06-16 20:32:27 UTC

Renting a bus is going to be hella expensive. We'd do better directing people to public transportation or finding someone on our side who owns one

2017-06-16 20:33:01 UTC

@MadDimension could rent uhaul vans

2017-06-16 20:33:19 UTC

Posted it in another channel.

2017-06-16 20:33:23 UTC

I want people to be able to get to the event as quickly and worry-free as possible. If they're delayed by parking logistics they might have to walk through a wall of protestors to get to the event

2017-06-16 20:34:30 UTC

@Goldstein Riots How would that work? Pile people into the back of a moving truck like Mexicans crossing the border?

2017-06-16 20:34:55 UTC

Either start crowdfunding for renting a bus from UVA or crowdfunding for renting Uhaul vans

2017-06-16 20:34:58 UTC

or whatever

2017-06-16 20:34:59 UTC

City trolley also does private stuff/ a day of passenger vans from enterprise/ etc. it really depends on how many people you're efficiently trying to move. A few phone calls and o could get an idea of pricing.

2017-06-16 20:35:15 UTC

but shuttling really is our only option here

2017-06-16 20:35:23 UTC

@PrimitveXaoc Check the pricing

2017-06-16 20:35:41 UTC

Public Transpo would be an issue, especially if antifa is thinking the same thing

2017-06-16 20:38:45 UTC

Have a guess on the number of people? I'll get all of the options together and prepare a comparison. I *think* the city and county also do busses for rent as well. I'll look in to every possibility first thing next week.

2017-06-16 20:42:45 UTC

I don't really know. Just see what pricing options they have

2017-06-16 20:43:52 UTC

@MadDimension pretty much. We wouldn't be traveling far after all. And the vans are basically passenger vans without seats.

2017-06-16 20:44:04 UTC

Here is a general mockup of what the general security plan should be. Our perimeter should be the entire park. The blue lines on the North and South sidewalks should be our guys in a tight line. Green should be Alt-Lite cucks loosely spaced. After that, we have a tight perimeter of the hard core of the alt-right in a shield wall around the statue, surrounding the VIPs. Plain clothes spotters should be on the street corners with radios or cell phones, looking for any antifa funny business.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/325374997218459649/unknown.png

2017-06-16 20:44:31 UTC

@Goldstein Riots They also have these

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321379234977153034/325375109017632769/unknown.png

2017-06-16 20:44:39 UTC

Having a hard line out in the very front with loosely spaced guys behind them will allow for a quick response to wherever we need it. If they get pushed back, they won't get through the guys around the statue.

2017-06-16 20:45:11 UTC

We're gonna fill that entire park

2017-06-16 20:45:32 UTC

Just take your Super Male Vitality that morning, you'll be fine.

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