We all need to leave at the same time, and going to the same place.

Agreed.

Our group was huge, and we adopted a group of two to take to their vehicle.

That's why I think a shuttle system would be good. Where we have several people responsible for large vans that park nearby the event that can shuttle others to parking lots farther away.

That is a great idea.

Agreed.

If we know the locations of where we will be marching, lets get them up now.

AFAIK this server is private, so unless we plan on bringing a bunch of randos in we can do it here.

Those several people can be the medics. Anyone injured can go to the van as well.

No. This server is absolutely not private.

We need to get this set in stone far enough in advance that we can all remember it, at least the group leaders. If something happens where we get compromised, we can have enough time to chnage plans without having to panic.

Wait this is a public server?

Call some friends in your groups.

This is public.

Yes, it's a public server.

wtf

was there an announcement or something?

Which is why I am expecting violence

Yes

This is everyone's ball game.

Most of the severe planning should be held within your group, if you're in one

But I agree we need vans for everyone

Designated shuttle vehicles of some kind at least

most of the sever planning should have fucking been in here

since we had a secure discord server for it already

jfc

@пидорновичок unless Jason or Eli made this server public without telling me (which I doubt they would do) this isn't a public server. It's invite only through our trusted, pre-vetted alt-right servers. Not sure who told you it's public. We haven't even opened up this server to proud boys or the alt-lite because the other mods, event coordinators, and myself are all aware they act like kikes.

Parking is a nightmare where this is occurring, I'm sure some of you know that. We do have several companies locally who rent out smaller sized busses etc, commonly for vineyard tours. A lot of people also rent busses from UVA to shuttle for special events or even the Charlottesville Trolley, which would make for some interesting optics. Renting a fleet of passenger vans from somewhere close by is another option. I will be attending with my husband in separate vehicles. I planned to be able to leave and help handle getting woman moved out if it got too bad. Utilizing a public school's parking lot nearby may be the largest free parking option for the masses.

With the date being public, you can bet the left will be out scouting for our vehicles. Are there any secured lots nearby?

@TiborSzalasi-MI there are places about 1 mil away to park if you dont mind the walk

We'll have to coordinate this, it is a big safety issue.

Yeah

Walking a mile in small groups is literally an invitation to be fucked up

Should really take the idea of a shuttle seriously

http://www.charlottesvilleparking.com/index.php/locations

There are only 2 garages in the area.

UHaul cargo van would be cheap and could hold a good number of folks, it's not like we will be traveling far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcrbajemjQY

This shows the dimensions better.

There are two garages downtown. They're both fairly crammed on a regular basis. Even on a random day of the week it can take awhile to drive around and find somewhere to park on the street. Add this size event and I can only imagine the crowds. I'm thinking that you may want to look in to the possibility of an airbnb apartment in the immediate area, there are some apartments right by the park. Possibility an immediate safe house/escape place for anyone higher profile who is not interested in being involved in any foolishness. One with a birds eye view of the park for security purposes would be optimal. I'm thinking it wouldn't be a bad idea to close down the streets surrounding the park itself. @MadDimension have you looked in to that at all? the street on the library side at the least? Other than that having a dedicated crew of people to occupy the on street spots with vehicles surrounding the park would be ideal.

@PrimitveXaocWhat are your credentials for planning ingress/egress?l

We should designate someone to plan logistics in this regard. Parking, movement to and from the ao

In this situation, my credentials happen to be the fact that I've lived here my entire life. How well do you know he area? Also, I was mostly speaking to Jason. Excuse me for offering suggestions.

So are there any large parking lots close to the area that we can use that won't be full? Either a secured lot, or somewhere that has cameras? Like next to a bank?

We should lock down an area where we can all park at that is close by, and a spot to act as a rally point for shuttles. We can't have people walking by themselves to their cars or hotels, and Uber is going to be unreliable.

Garages could be good, but we need to check the clearances on them, as rental vans are quite tall. Is that something you could do @PrimitveXaoc since you live in the area?

Alternatively, if parking is going to be an issue like you say, we could have every group that is bringing passenger vans park at the lots and garages that are nearby and shuttle everyone that attends to lots further away.

There are only 3 public garages/lots that show up on google

we likely wont fit in the garages

there's street parking off in the neighborhood

but thats dicey as well

The lot we were in last time was close, and it had cameras watching it. We could park there, but it won't fit everybody.

Either way I think the thing to stress here is that we CANNOT do what we did last time and just leave in groups of 3 or 4. We need to travel as one large group.

So, in August the Farmer's market downtown is in full swing. That takes up one of the larger secure lots behind the mall beside the larger of the parking garages. For secure close parking I would suggest using the Omni hotel parking garage (private) which is right beside where you all parked last time.(from what I saw from the videos posted) From where I saw you walking in the videos. That one is at least gated and has open areas that do not require clearance. It is also the lesser used of all of the lots.

Well, I'd suggest looking in to that as an option.

Why don't we park on campus?

School isn't in session and public school campuses are public access

Shuttle from there

Plus it will piss people off?

This is where we parked last time.

At least that's where my group parked.

Is this the lot you are saying will be closed?

I suggested that earlier as well, there are a few schools in the are none is truly close walking proximity but shuttling, yes.

The Omni lot literally connects to that one. Just happens to be more secure, they have security watching the lot cameras etc.

For egress, we start marching away all together and the shuttles will gradually pick up people from the front

Is Omni parking available for the public, or do you need to be a guest? If it is covered, what is the clearance on the ceiling?

That is not the lot that will be closed. It is one that fills up faster during the summer time. It really depends on if the locals are going to try to avoid the area like the plague that day.

Or how many people will be in town for this event. We don't see a lot of things like this here locally and I imagine it will draw some sizable crowds from all sides.

Part of me wishes we would crowd fund busses and leave from 5 miles away and roll up right next to the park like the New England Patriots.

^^^ there you go 😂

PARKING: People are either going to need to pay a few shekels to park in the Parking Garage about ($10 for the day) or we can shuttle them in from a nearby location like Darden-Towe Park

When 6-10 bus loads pull up and unload everyone it would send a message

Omni has open and closed lots and also will allow for busses to be parked there as well, you are not required to be a guest.

We can probably shuttle people in, but the shuttles will need to be parked closeby. Omni should work if that's the case.

@everyone It's absolutely critical that you not mill about in small groups, you'll get overtaken

every possible effort should be made to link up as soon as possible, shuttling is probably the best bet

@MadDimension Darden towe may possibly be packed that day I can check on the park schedules. Soccer games and other sports there. I was thinking Omni for Private or Clark School for public parking.

Also, Monticello high school has sizable lots and is about a 5 min drive (straight shot) from the downtown mall and outside city limits.

What about the McDonald's and Staples parking lots?

The Parking Garage at Carver Rec is open to the public as well

They have both started to crack down on parking.

I was just going to mention Carver. It ultimately all depends on if there are any other events.

We need to make a list of solid parking locations. Carver should be #1. What else?

Should be okay early on a Saturday

There are the water street and market street garages

those are the closest

Water street lot between the metered lot and garage is closed down for the farmers market on Saturday's people start crowding that area heavily at 7am or earlier.

ah

good to know

Look for somewhere 10 minutes outside of town that people could park cars at

Downtown parking should be for all the vans we can muster primarily, secondarily for POVs

There are a number of garages at the uni

I've never crowd funded anything. Is there a fee to just opening a request?

There are lots of people who like what we are doing that aren't going. What if we just started wesearcher requests. Some could be for crazy stuff (like a helicopter for Antifa rides). It would be funny and some of them might actually get funded. That would make planning much easier.

@Tyrone Not just to open, but WeSearcher takes something like 15% off the top.

I feel like garages would be unsafe if we have a pack of ferals following us. Or just generally unsafe since the entirety of Charlottesville will know about our presence this time. Idk. I made a point to find street parking about 10-15 minutes walking distance from where we were demonstrating last time.

The Carver parking garage is a 5 minute walk from the event and should be safe