#questions_for_coordinators (Discord ID: 323597554271125505) in Charlottesville 2.0, page 1

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2017-06-11 23:06:27 UTC

This channel will be used to ask the coordinators any questions directly and for others to see them if needed. Please do not shitpost or debate the answers or fill this with uneeded info. It should go Question, Answer, Question, Answer so that people can quickly refrence this channel.

2017-06-11 23:06:33 UTC

2017-06-12 00:24:58 UTC

I'm in the Carolina Stormer Book Club. Is it possible to add a member of the club to the Charlottesville server?

2017-06-21 19:28:52 UTC

Yes, if they are planning to come to the event

2017-06-29 03:25:10 UTC

@GreatScott yeah, we'll probably have spotters dressed up as normies. We did that at Auburn and Cville 1.0. Once we designate a PSO, he'll be planning roles from spotters.

2017-06-29 04:36:39 UTC

You should probably designate a PSO more than a month out

2017-06-29 04:37:24 UTC

Yeah, we got called and asked for 3 PSD members the night before last time. That should never happen.

2017-06-29 04:37:44 UTC

We ended up not being needed, but this should be set long before the event.

2017-06-29 04:38:13 UTC

Is there a reason Caerolus can't do it?

2017-06-29 04:48:08 UTC

I tried bringing up a security plan a couple weeks ago and the discussion didn't get anywhere, so

2017-06-29 04:48:54 UTC

@Hand Banana take it up with Eli. I've told him this.

2017-06-29 17:41:26 UTC

Great idea

2017-06-30 00:48:02 UTC

I'll be a spotter... I don't really look the ... Uhhh... Alt right kid look

2017-06-30 00:48:30 UTC

I been a bouncer and kick boxer also

2017-06-30 04:45:26 UTC

I thought it prudent to ask. What kind of legal defense do we have on our side for if but more likely when antifa and the leftwing establishment in cville tries to fuck us

2017-06-30 14:05:33 UTC

<@&321389309162815488> Can you unlock the fucking Safety Squad channel so we can organize PSD and Street Level shit please

2017-06-30 15:02:26 UTC

@Hand Banana it will be unlocked once we have a PSO and he designates his PSD teams.

2017-06-30 15:02:52 UTC

At that point, it'll only be available to the PSO and individuals designated as PSD.

2017-06-30 15:05:06 UTC

@Eli Mosley or @MadDimension Please respond when one of you two has time

2017-06-30 16:28:08 UTC

Thinking of PSD me and my guys that pulled security for The DC rally are coming down for this

2017-06-30 17:25:37 UTC

@HueTheHand myself or the PSO will contact you once we actually designate a PSO.

2017-06-30 18:14:43 UTC

The LS will have a security detail for Dr. Hill. Would y'all like for them to coordinate with the main PSO?

2017-06-30 18:33:41 UTC

I created a special antifa research group on fb if anyone wants to join

2017-06-30 19:14:53 UTC

@crockett yes. I'll add you to the <#321379304007008276> channel

2017-07-04 21:31:57 UTC

Oi someone add me to the safety squaddie group. I'm IDNC with experience with real time PSD

2017-07-04 21:33:37 UTC


2017-07-04 21:35:57 UTC
2017-07-04 22:29:12 UTC

@Erika I'm with I.D. And was just added by Kessler today. Please add me to whatever channel or group is appropriate

2017-07-05 02:27:52 UTC

@SpencerReesh you're added to the ID group.

2017-07-05 02:31:11 UTC

@SpencerReesh welcome back Mr Cotter.

2017-07-05 11:55:14 UTC

Yeah what is going on with the Safety squad group ? I was told I'd be being contacted by the PSO and added. I did security for the D.C. Event for Colten and I do Executive protection / PSD work

2017-07-05 13:32:08 UTC
2017-07-05 14:26:53 UTC

@HueTheHand added. Message Caerulus letting him know you're available.

2017-07-05 16:32:59 UTC

You see the major disconnect here is that in Cville one we had the Personal security detachment for VIPs and then the safety squad to help protect other attendees and that no longer seems to be the case

2017-07-05 17:00:45 UTC

Both are really needed they both have very different jobs if something goes down

2017-07-05 17:03:48 UTC

Being the PSD/ executive protection teams job is to get the principal off the X and to safety as fast as possible as soon as something goes down , in contrast the attendee security has the job of standing and fighting till the attendees are out and safe then they can pull out

2017-07-05 19:55:57 UTC

Yeah I'm aware of the difference between the two. I'm just wondering why there isn't an actual safety squad or any planning for that when this event is going to be so much more in need of one

2017-07-05 20:14:27 UTC

@Hand Banana sorry didn't say it to be an ass, I'm use to people in the movement having no real clew on how to use security.

2017-07-05 20:15:08 UTC

Esp after what I saw in D.C.

2017-07-05 20:18:53 UTC

My boy @Heinz - MI is the only one trying to organize something to help protect attendees and Erika still refuses to unlock the Safety Squad channel

2017-07-05 20:22:44 UTC

@Hand Banana because the safety squad channel is literally just for critical info for PSD members protecting the VIPs. Take it up with @Eli Mosley or start using the <#321395356216590347> channel to start organizing your crews.

2017-07-05 20:22:57 UTC

So it's the PSD channel?

2017-07-05 20:23:39 UTC

You should consider renaming it then 👌🏻 but you're a coordinator and therefore know more about security details and organization than I do 🤷🏻‍♂️

2017-07-05 20:24:33 UTC

"We can have three channels for lodging but you aren't allowed to organize defense of the rally because you were mean"

2017-07-05 20:27:11 UTC

So you make up shit no one ever said like the kikes? Like I said, talk to Eli. I'm not stopping you from organizing in the rarely used <#321395356216590347> channel.

2017-07-05 20:32:28 UTC

Weird language policing happening

2017-07-05 20:33:28 UTC


2017-07-05 20:37:43 UTC

God damn stop

2017-07-05 20:38:55 UTC

She helped organize Charlottesville 1.0.

2017-07-06 21:04:46 UTC

@HueTheHand @Jack "Ajax" Richardson i was with hue and a couple others for security in dc. Any help needed ill also be available.

2017-07-11 12:35:38 UTC

@Hand Banana what do you need help with?

2017-07-15 07:10:42 UTC

How prepared for a fight should I come? I could make some anti-irritant solution to hand out in case of pepper spray attacks

2017-07-15 08:46:15 UTC

The more prepared you are, the more likely not to be messed with.

2017-07-15 13:02:01 UTC

Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.

2017-07-15 13:44:21 UTC


2017-07-15 13:44:23 UTC


2017-07-15 13:45:01 UTC

Why am I getting tagged and then bitched at for responding to the sarcastic fucking women who I had no desire to speak to anyway? @MadDimension

2017-07-15 13:46:48 UTC

You guys need to stay seperated. @Erika don't tag him in anything else. @Americana - MD stop insulting her.

2017-07-15 13:48:10 UTC

It was Morrigan who tagged me first to be fair

2017-07-15 13:54:11 UTC

It doesn't matter. It's over now. Pretend like Erika isn't here and vice-versa

2017-07-16 17:43:01 UTC

Could we have a channel for media? I'd like to get in contact with anyone else shooting video.

2017-07-16 18:53:40 UTC
2017-07-16 18:56:33 UTC

We’ve been talking via message.

2017-07-16 20:24:27 UTC

@MadDimension my previous message.

2017-07-16 20:26:16 UTC

@Herrenvolk - MD put out an @ everyone in the <#321382080145522700> channel. I know Blake is one of the people shooting professional footage.

2017-07-16 22:31:29 UTC

Wait, we can't have our faces covered?

2017-07-16 22:32:39 UTC

No sir

2017-07-16 22:33:13 UTC

It's illegal as hell to wear a mask, I'd guess clear face shield would be fine.

2017-07-16 22:33:13 UTC


2017-07-16 22:34:54 UTC

@Americana - MD Is there anything about face paint?

2017-07-16 22:35:26 UTC

Ummm idk

2017-07-16 22:36:15 UTC

The anti mask laws are posted in the VA laws board.

2017-07-16 22:36:20 UTC

Yeah, I saw them

2017-07-16 22:38:39 UTC

Maybe I'll dye my hair instead, then

2017-07-16 22:39:22 UTC

Yes, face paint is also illegal @The Inquisitor [☧]

2017-07-16 22:42:50 UTC

Yellow is Anticom @Vice Commander Hunt

2017-07-16 22:44:59 UTC

@Randlet no face shields. Don't take the risk with the no mask laws

2017-07-16 22:45:08 UTC

2017-07-16 22:49:05 UTC

@The Inquisitor [☧] @Vice Commander Hunt take it to another channel or DM

2017-07-16 22:49:55 UTC

oy vey my NAP has been violated

2017-07-16 23:05:56 UTC

We were just making your job easier by answering the questions we could. Sorry @Erika

2017-07-16 23:08:12 UTC

I do appreciate you guys answered questions that have been answered many times already, just no covos in here. That's all.

2017-07-16 23:08:37 UTC

Sorry I hate to waste the time of an event coordinator.

2017-07-16 23:09:32 UTC

@Randlet I believe IE has an IE approved shield you can bring. I'll have to check. You can also talk to @Heinz - MI. He's directing crowd security for the event, and his guys are trained with shields.

2017-07-16 23:20:39 UTC

2017-07-16 23:21:22 UTC

Skateboard helmet would work

2017-07-16 23:21:29 UTC

Those bottom two would not.

2017-07-16 23:21:55 UTC

By work I mean legally

2017-07-16 23:22:18 UTC

That's not the type of shield we need or that would be useful. Instructions on building a proper shield are in the doc in the <#321379234977153034> channel.

2017-07-16 23:23:11 UTC

Oh yeah, any place with a no mask law, you can't wear the top two helmets. Like you said, the skateboard helmet will be the best option for this event.

2017-07-16 23:23:12 UTC



2017-07-16 23:23:26 UTC

Cool, thanks @Heinz - MI

2017-07-16 23:25:01 UTC

It's going to be great watching Antifa show up with masks and get a felony charge. I hope everyone has read the laws and understand how strict Virginia really is. Wouldn't want anyone here to face felony charges.

2017-07-16 23:26:29 UTC



2017-07-16 23:28:21 UTC

Careful with the face shields. I don't doubt the cops would enforce the no mask law if you had your shield flipped down on that helmet. I could be wrong, but with how strict they're being about faces being obstructed, I'd think they'd count that as a mask.

2017-07-16 23:30:04 UTC

You could always call the pd and ask for clarification

2017-07-16 23:30:33 UTC

Good idea. We'll get that cleared up.

2017-07-17 00:13:32 UTC

The Anti Mask laws are against concealing your identity. A clear face shield should be fine.

2017-07-17 00:14:26 UTC

@crockett Rex is going to ask the police chief to confirm whether clear face shields are okay or not, so I'll have an answer for that question soon.

2017-07-17 02:00:56 UTC

They arrested a guy for dressing up as the joker. The law will mean what they want it to mean

2017-07-17 04:48:46 UTC

Does it say anything about patriotic face paint?

2017-07-17 05:53:08 UTC

i wouldn't risk it

2017-07-17 14:23:45 UTC

@Erika Official speaker lineup?

2017-07-17 14:25:54 UTC

Like... the timeline basically

2017-07-17 14:33:03 UTC

We haven't set arranged speaker times yet. We'll be setting that up within the next week or so.

2017-07-17 14:39:06 UTC

Okay sounds good

2017-07-17 23:53:20 UTC

has anyone thought about general logistics? We are going to need a first aid station, water to hand out, comms co-ordination etc.

2017-07-17 23:57:06 UTC

@Kurt I'm already taking care of organizing the medical end of things. We'll have EMTs, medics, and first aid/CPR certified individuals on staff. We can probably have a water station, but I've just advised my people to bring a couple bottles of water with them. Comms coordination would be up to the <@&330422727447937024> and @Heinz - MI

2017-07-17 23:57:45 UTC

We should have bottles of water to hand out for sure.

2017-07-17 23:57:56 UTC

Heat is our most dangerous enemy

2017-07-17 23:59:29 UTC

Nobody thought about that in DC, and I am suprised that we didn't have heat casualties.

2017-07-18 00:00:29 UTC

I can bring an ez-up if needed too

2017-07-18 00:03:50 UTC

@Kurt okay thank you. I'll talk with the other coordinators to set up having water available for everyone.

2017-07-18 01:39:12 UTC

Not sure if this is too out in the open, but someone let me know what intel regarding the need for burners and cash only? Well aware of need in certain instances, but antifa?

2017-07-18 01:39:49 UTC

if you're concerned about doxing and plan on going out using a card might not be the best idea

2017-07-18 01:41:44 UTC

@WhiteTrash True, but almost always needed for hotel. Are there concerns of hotel employees handing over info? As for burners, is it more just so not lost at event and personal info/contacts extracted?

2017-07-18 01:43:00 UTC

@DavidOrlando basically, just get a burner phone, or factory reset an old phone, and use a paid paid SIM card for it. Don't put contacts real names into it. And absolutely don't use your card to pay for anything over the weekend. There's always a concern of employees of places handing over your info. Just keep a low profile if you choose to stay at a hotel.

2017-07-18 01:44:14 UTC

@Erika Great advice. Really impressed by the OPSEC & PERSEC details. Good job whoever put that togther!

2017-07-18 01:45:16 UTC

it's always a concern with hotel workers but a sure way to get them fired

2017-07-18 01:46:56 UTC

Sad this is the current year, but all the more reason to pushback and why I joined. Freedom of speech, Freedom of association etc is in extreme danger.

2017-07-18 01:48:19 UTC

Non of us are high profile like Spencer or Damigo. As long as you don't throw parties in your hotel room, blast The Daily Shoah, or go around goose stepping and sieg heiling, you'll be fine.

2017-07-18 01:50:03 UTC

Also, don't go walking around in Daily Stormer tshirts over the weekend if you're worried about being noticed.

2017-07-18 01:52:09 UTC

@Erika Oh no, was going to wear my old NWA shirt...:)

2017-07-18 02:30:52 UTC

Wait, why would we need a burner phone?

2017-07-18 02:31:53 UTC

I think a burner phone is pushing it

2017-07-18 02:32:03 UTC

but I can get behind cash only at restaurnts

2017-07-18 02:32:23 UTC

has there been documented incidents of locals doxxing in Cville?

2017-07-18 02:35:15 UTC

Organizations do send observers to dox

2017-07-18 02:35:33 UTC

Best way not to get doxxed: Dont go

2017-07-18 02:39:07 UTC

Doxxing becomes an issue when you become an event. If they can tie you to an organization or you put yourself out there is when it's an issue, If you are low key you're better off. But if you're holding a sign that says GTKRWN or the goyim know while wearing a daily stormer shirt you're tied to that, If there is a video of you punching a commie in the face like Nathan (pbuh) you're tied to that. Worst case scenario you're found out you're an innocent bystander who was in town visiting family etc

2017-07-18 02:39:53 UTC

They can review all the footage they want but unless there is a massive effort, they're not going to be able to doxx every person there

2017-07-18 02:41:07 UTC

And we would immediatey know about such an effort because we have so many of our people who have infultrated their organaizations. The aclu isn't going to be able to identify some 19 year old bystanded from some small town in arkansas who flew in to see the rally

2017-07-18 02:41:27 UTC

if that kid does something event worthy, yeah thats a different story

2017-07-18 02:41:36 UTC

just lay low if you're worried

2017-07-18 02:43:43 UTC

Also, I am sure the ACLU is looking for violation of rights and inhumane treatment from LE rather than some kid holding a kekistani flag

2017-07-18 02:45:02 UTC

I'm just gonna feign ignorance and pretend like I was on a road trip and I had heard this was a "Unite the Right" rally, and I decided to just stop by because I thought it was just establishment conservatives lol. My boss knows I follow Richard and other Alt-Right figures. It could be a different story if I'm on TV next to a guy waving NatSoc insignia though.

2017-07-18 02:50:46 UTC

@AltRightMick Won't be any windmills of friendship at the rally. Afterwards though....

2017-07-18 02:55:13 UTC

@Goldstein Riots Interesting, I thought every group was given authority to do their normal thing.

2017-07-18 03:09:20 UTC

I think there is a general concensus about optics at the rally proper.

2017-07-18 03:09:51 UTC

But ask @MadDimension for the final word.

2017-07-18 03:14:41 UTC

I don't even know all of the organizations taking part in this event. Just know that IE, Vanguard, and TWP are involved.

2017-07-18 03:22:57 UTC

They're are a multitude of altright organizations operating these days. What a time to be alive! @AltRightMick

2017-07-18 03:27:33 UTC

<@&321389309162815488> <@&321762201083838464> who can help a Stormer club in Indiana?

2017-07-18 03:32:00 UTC

@Johnny O'Malley at cville 1.0 somebody put hitler did nothing wrong or something on a reciept and it got photographed and put on social media

2017-07-18 03:32:28 UTC

word is person got fired tho

2017-07-18 03:33:40 UTC

@Chef Goyardee Help them how

2017-07-18 03:38:26 UTC

@Hand Banana Sorry, I'm on my cell. I meant with carpooling.

2017-07-18 03:46:28 UTC

@WhiteTrash if they did thay with thier name on the tab it's pretty shitty opsec. I plan on using cash for everything

2017-07-18 03:57:34 UTC

@Chef Goyardee @Jack "Ajax" Richardson is your Indiana contact for setting up carpools.

2017-07-18 03:59:53 UTC

@Erika thanks !

2017-07-18 05:10:25 UTC

Going back to that doxxing stuff, some people will be carrying flags, this is a surefire way to get noticed, are you suggesting that that would be too highkey? I want to be able to fly any flag of my choice without having to worry about getting doxxed. @Johnny O'Malley

2017-07-18 05:11:45 UTC

If you're flying an IE flag you can't make the argument that you're not IE

2017-07-18 05:12:56 UTC

But if you want to fly a flag just fly the flag, wear sunglasses and don't try to recreate any based gook wife man shit with your flag pole and they won't have a reason to dox you

2017-07-18 05:13:02 UTC

That's all I was getting at

2017-07-18 05:13:26 UTC

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from representing who they are with. I actually encourage it

2017-07-18 06:07:28 UTC

Got it, thanks for the clarification.

2017-07-18 21:03:15 UTC

So what is the plan in the even our space is occupied by the antis?

2017-07-18 23:57:26 UTC

It will be dealt with by the event coordinators and LE

2017-07-19 00:26:41 UTC

Are there going to be porta John's there? Taking a leak might be a big mission otherwise.

2017-07-19 01:28:55 UTC

Maybe I missed it, but what exactly is the dress code requirements for attendees? Business casual? Is there anything prohibited other than masks and swazis?

2017-07-19 01:39:22 UTC

khakis and button up/polo is good

2017-07-19 01:40:22 UTC

What about Cargo shorts and a button up over a tank top?

2017-07-19 01:40:41 UTC

Swazis aren't prohibited.

2017-07-19 01:55:23 UTC

I understand that the polo/khakis look is good, I'm asking that if someone shows up deliberately negating that professional look, for example with a huge swastika on their t-shirt, will they be turned away or allowed to stay?

2017-07-19 01:55:45 UTC

Or flip flops and a wife beater tank

2017-07-19 01:56:03 UTC

I'm showing up with a swastika shirt and i'm not being turned away

2017-07-19 01:56:04 UTC


2017-07-19 01:56:06 UTC

@Jack Danson - KG I think it's up to whatever group you're coming with, but might as well not make it trashy. Polos and khakis looked good last time.

2017-07-19 01:56:15 UTC

If you're wearing flip flops you're not the brightest person

2017-07-19 01:56:31 UTC

but you wont get turned away

2017-07-19 01:56:33 UTC

National Socialism is trashy huh?

2017-07-19 01:56:41 UTC


2017-07-19 01:57:01 UTC


2017-07-19 01:57:06 UTC

Oh the swastikas. No, I was just responding to the general question about dress code.

2017-07-19 01:57:07 UTC

Are you saying the symbol of peace is trashy?

2017-07-19 01:57:15 UTC

Oh, okay 😃

2017-07-19 01:58:06 UTC

But yeah, flip flops are a really dumb idea

2017-07-19 01:59:55 UTC

This is a Unite the Right rally, not a "I get to do whatever I want with unconditional support from allies" rally.

2017-07-19 02:00:36 UTC

I know that, I'm asking what is going to happen to people who give zero shits about optics. The ones that the media focus on and use to brand the entire crowd/event with

2017-07-19 02:01:11 UTC

Well, when you're uniting with NS, there might be a swastika or two.

2017-07-19 02:01:38 UTC


2017-07-19 02:01:42 UTC

I'll put in a good word for you, Jack.

2017-07-19 02:01:55 UTC

I'll be sure to tell fox news what's up from you

2017-07-19 02:03:18 UTC

I like to dress down in the office from time to time, but when I'm meeting with a client or a business partner, I put on a blazer and slacks even if I'd prefer to wear a t-shirt.

2017-07-19 02:03:42 UTC

No flip flops.

2017-07-19 02:03:58 UTC


2017-07-19 02:04:14 UTC

No contact lenses either.

2017-07-19 02:05:08 UTC

^^ that should be stickied

2017-07-19 02:05:13 UTC


2017-07-19 02:05:31 UTC

people dont think about that shit if they have never been gassed or sprayed before

2017-07-19 02:05:39 UTC


2017-07-19 02:06:06 UTC

I don't have glasses and only have contacts. I'm willing to take that risk.

2017-07-19 02:06:13 UTC

I have no choice lol

2017-07-19 02:06:39 UTC

just wear safety glasses.

2017-07-19 02:06:42 UTC

wear sunglasses at minimum with the contacts then

2017-07-19 02:06:58 UTC

Will do.

2017-07-19 02:07:10 UTC

I've seen people with contacts get spray

2017-07-19 02:07:14 UTC

it's not pretty

2017-07-19 02:07:40 UTC

Might be better off going half blind from the get-go tbh

2017-07-19 02:12:30 UTC

Where do I volunteer if I have first aid skills?

2017-07-19 02:13:23 UTC

<#321379408642310160> @The Inquisitor [☧]

2017-07-19 02:13:34 UTC

Let Erica know

2017-07-19 02:14:22 UTC

I can't see that channel

2017-07-20 01:22:37 UTC

Is sam hyde comming all jokes aside

2017-07-20 02:30:09 UTC
2017-07-20 02:30:36 UTC

Henlo I will come with jokes.

2017-07-20 02:31:08 UTC

I'll also be doing covers, such as the classic "Orange You Glad I Didn't Say Banana"

2017-07-20 03:58:53 UTC

Just confirmed that i can and am indeed going, from CA - would love to help however i can there

2017-07-21 03:31:22 UTC

@AltCelt(IL) and myself will be at the park early to help secure a spot. I'm pretty experienced with live sound. Is there any help I could give in that regard?

2017-07-21 03:39:21 UTC
2017-07-22 23:59:37 UTC

<@&321389309162815488> What is the official policy in regards to open carry?

2017-07-22 23:59:55 UTC

As far as I can tell it's legal in Charlottesville, but I wanted to check on the organizers' stance.

2017-07-23 00:22:09 UTC

@Haupstürmfuhrer Pepe open carry is heavily discouraged. conceal carry at your own risk

2017-07-23 00:55:59 UTC

I heard opn carry was okay and you won't be turned away for it

2017-07-23 00:56:03 UTC

Am i wrong

2017-07-23 00:57:00 UTC

Terribly wrong. Event organizers will ask you to leave if you open carry.

2017-07-23 00:57:16 UTC

But you know that. Hopefully.

2017-07-23 00:57:20 UTC

Understood, thank you.

2017-07-23 05:05:41 UTC

actually gust

2017-07-23 05:05:44 UTC

you wrong

2017-07-23 05:08:20 UTC


2017-07-23 05:08:53 UTC

my boys bringing AKs

2017-07-23 05:09:07 UTC

ar15s are for pussies anyways

2017-07-23 05:20:07 UTC

Whats your plan for when you have a duty to retreat and can't use your rifle without going to prison?

2017-07-23 05:34:05 UTC

@Hand Banana what's your plan when you're overwhelmed and fucking dying and can't defend yourself?

2017-07-23 05:35:31 UTC

"fucking dying and can't defend yourself?" there is no plan at that point brother - game over @Americana - MD

2017-07-23 05:36:27 UTC

Well overwhelmed and dying won't happen when you're armed and can properly defend yourself 👌🏻

2017-07-23 05:37:12 UTC

haha I hear you - I am not counter signalling any lethal weapons on our side. - this will be a good test of agency for us

2017-07-23 05:39:08 UTC

"In just one year, the alt right has gone from relative obscurity to being one of the United States' most visible extremist movements. " Line one from the kikes ((()))

2017-07-23 05:51:54 UTC

"Extremist"... if only

2017-07-23 05:56:35 UTC

Conceal carry works just fine too

2017-07-23 06:03:07 UTC

@Hand Banana Virginia is a Stand Your Ground state. There is never a legal duty to retreat as long as you are behaving lawfully in a SYG state.

2017-07-23 06:14:00 UTC

Yeah but you can't use deadly force unless faced with deadly force


2017-07-23 06:14:43 UTC

You are legally obligated to use the least amount of force possible

2017-07-23 06:16:03 UTC

And does anyone think a jury of Charlotesville shitlibs will think you were not provoking the situation?

2017-07-23 06:27:49 UTC

@Stannisthemannis I would advise anyone who is worried about these things to not carry then. I'm not carrying, bc IMO when you carry at these events you've effectively neutered yourself, but I appreciate the fact that others do.

2017-07-23 06:29:51 UTC

I'm conceal carrying, I mean I don't go to the grocery store unarmed let alone this lol. But that's for extremely last resort. I have other less lethal alternatives like a fire extinguisher, mainly in case we face molotovs...

2017-07-23 07:07:53 UTC

Well, I always come barehanded and bareheaded, bc officers don't duck lol. But my guys will be ready with lots of nifty equipment.

2017-07-23 07:10:31 UTC

Also, in VA, if you are involved in the issue (paraphrasing here) like in a yelling match or something, you must retreat from the situation

2017-07-23 07:10:45 UTC

Check the VA Laws channel

2017-07-23 07:49:32 UTC

@Hand Banana that was a poor description of the law... you must retreat in a self defense situation where you are going to use lethal force

2017-07-23 07:50:15 UTC

It's not the same as retreating from a yelling match or even a physical altercation not involving lethal weapons...

2017-07-23 08:21:26 UTC

Hence "Check the VA Laws Channel"

Here's the link http://www.tmwilsonlaw.com/criminal-law/self-defense#3.1

2017-07-24 19:02:46 UTC

If for some reason I decide to open carry a rifle, i am bringing my M1917

2017-07-24 19:30:21 UTC


2017-07-24 23:37:51 UTC

I'm bringing Mosin-Nagants with bayonets attached.

2017-07-24 23:44:01 UTC

@Tyrone if it doesn't have a red dot scope and a tactical grip don't bother

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