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The only public space I'll sleep in is an airplane
>I'm back in WA
>a WA member is put on an 8-hr train ride
hmmmm
Finally finished
Awesome!
Turned out really well actually!
NorCal leads the way!
Yep, it was a team effort. @still brodie - CA @Freiheit - CA @celticflame @John Smith @Mrs. Bogl . Thank you all.
@Bogl - CA ho ho ho
Merry Christmas @Conway - OK . Hope all is well in Oklahoma.
@Salo Saloson I'm going to Western Washington
@Bogl - CAvery nice. Can't wait to see pictures of it flying
Oh. Well. Welcome to the green half of the state.
After only a day here I can honestly say I'm sick of the rain.
I've been told that an IE poster survived the recent tornado in Washington
It's been up for over a year
^A prophecy, no?
Absolutely
compliments of Moike Enoch's retweet
aaaaaaaand our poster was still theeere
AHAHAHA I once used a similar taking point to that tweet in class
ended up getting an A in the class
Molynew and Stephen Miller are softening my heart--must be Christmas or something
It needs to be said that Moly's tweet is what many have thought and raged on about for years now..
But with a little discipline we can applaud his realization and not scream, "well, YEAH! DUH!"
-McFeels just rt it too. It'll make the rounds by sun up
Habbenings habben fast
IE official resonse: "Ya think?"
*followed by conversation on why it's a big deal when they say it but not us*
@Bogl - CA beautiful banner as always my dood
As I have said and will always say, paper tiger.
"The growing self-recognition among white people, prodded into being by demographic change and broader conversations about how racial identity works, could certainly lead toward self-acceptance and harmony, sure. {snip} But weโre also staring at copious evidence of this self-recognition swinging in the other direction. When white Americans burrow into their group identity, the switch that Painter described often flips, from nothingness to awfulness. Some of us fixate on maintaining racial dominance, conjuring ethnonationalist states or a magical immigration formula that somehow imports half of Scandinavia. A majority of white Americans currently believe that their own race is discriminated against. News accounts fill with white resentment and torch-lit white-power marches. White Americans, who โseem lost,โ are searching for something important: how to see ourselves without turning awful in the process."
lmao
All it takes is a single knock at the shatterpoint.
and this entire system comes crashing down
even my left leanings friends roll their eyes at some of the left's creepy rhetoric
Huwhites know it. However, they're just too afraid to say it.
I wonder how long they'll take it
@Jacob Personally, I like it.
It's the sound a regime falling.
I have a friend who hates Trump and even she thinks all the white privilege stuff is retarded
That's good to hear.
then she best start pushing back against that rhetoric
as they say: don't be a bad ally, wypipo
lol
@Jacob I love the fake diversity in this server.
@Salo Saloson Ya, that's the thing, she doesn't like the SJW stuff, but the seriousness of the situation hasn't set in for her yet
I wonder how long people like her will take it
I was a leftist once.
The SJW bullshit is what pushed me away from communism.
I literally joined this movement for the memes.
originally
I said "screw it".
That's encouraging
I was so far left that I was willing to run around my campus getting petitions signed for the "glorious revolution".
just to give you an idea
of how far gone I was
She once told me she's afraid to talk to people because it's so easy to offend someone
That's how I felt.
Wew.. that was a far-left place to come from. Glad you're out of that
That's why I left.
@Flint Thanks. I know.
Maybe if she had more exposure to radical leftists she'd snap eventually
I was just slightly to the right of your average SJW.
Even in Utah?
I, too, believed in the SJW stuff at one point, but I was never super into it
@Flint Yup.
I was a libertarian who thought police were shooting innocent black people
I think it's the most huwhite pilling thing ever.
@Jacob That was my middle ground from being a leftist to here.
It goes Commie > Libertarian > Identitarian
all pushed by an anti-huwhite agenda.
I've always been politically far right, but succumbed to the left's culture and then got out of it--so I find the intellectual shift the most fascinating
my only transition period is that for a while I was a nationalist, but only for Europe
like I'd agree with SJWs here, but also admire Falangist groups in Europe lmao
it didn't take too long to realize the contradiction though
How about the cultural aspect?
Did you find it conflicting with your world view?
Or was it entirely intellectual?
Bc it was the opposite with me
what do you mean by the cultural aspect?
your behavior, what you did for fun
ahhh
ie leftists party, do drugs, one night stands, etc
right wing is rigid moral structure
I always thought that was gross
family, dating, etc
So I'm guessing morality guided you out of that phase, but you made the intellectual jump to leave?
*I might be wrong, just asking*
I agreed with the BLM stuff but never the LGBT stuff
I could never get behind LGBT stuff
So you were culturally 'moral' and right wing (for the sake of conversation), but thought more leftist?
I was obsessed with muh natives, BLM, islamophobia, that kind of stuff
I always thought trannies were mentally ill
so, yes, you could say that
I flip flopped a lot when I was younger though
Sounds like an intellectual mix, "I thought _____ was okay, but not ______"
Thinking something is right/wrong is intellectual disagreement
my political views have generally been all over the place throughout my life
I don't even know what you would call my ideology at some points
I can get that. I didn't either. Most youth are lying when they say they are X
I was far right (looking back) but then succumbed to lefty morals after some years of being worn down. Then came back when I became Christian--but even then spent a long time burning the old ways out
I've always been concerned more with the cultural aspect than the intellectual
At first I was pro free college and healthcare, anti redistribution of wealth, anti LGBT, and abortion, but also believed America oppresses minorities
(a very lefty thing to do, that's why the right has lost the cultural war)
Then I was libertarian
Then ancap
I had a few weeks as a libertarian, lol
then I reverted to my original position
The natural process of internal debate
A sign of intellectual health, imo
then I was nationalist for Europe but not America
That's bizarre, lol
then I became nationalist for America, too, and switched my economic views to copy Trump
I've always been an American nationalist and have always cared little for Europe
That's changing, slowly (Europe is hard to love, they get stomped every year by EU)
My most recent transition is I shifted left economically
and yes I agree with you
is healthy to debate internally
I'm further left economically than I was before (but I never cared/thought about economics before)
My position was always "if we can just stop ruining our lives with our behavior, I don't care how much you tax us"
But after studying China more, I've realized how damn awful Soc/Com is
But also that capitalism *needs* regulation
I think I was just an edgy kid and had a grudge on America tbh
I knew nationalism was logically better
Lol, that's funny. It's fun to hear the exact opposite of how I got here
I just thought America was a colonial state that "had it coming"
In high school, I remember hating Macy's bc they had a red star as a logo, lol
But then I went and partied
I'm an American Monarchist with Cowboyism economic policies
Cowboyism... I wanna hear about that
let me find the pic
I might be down with that
Monarchy, though? No way, Jose
yeah, I'm not really sure what I actually am. It's constantly developing
>tfw think am edgy but end up middle ground
I'm actually very modest on most policies outside of behavioral/cultural
*moderate
I don't really like taxes
I'm down with giving money collectively so that services that benefit the whole/folk work
Problem is, our services suck no matter what
bc the cultural influences
-schools
All comes back to demographics
Thus, why I'm WN
Can't have a functioning society while having awful demographics
I really like Teddy Roosevelt
I like the idea of healthy people in a healthy environment
We need a some form of Scouts for younger kids
guys, I'm about to walk on MLK Boulevard in Spokane
if I stop responding, you know where to send help
๐
I'm staying up late watching videos on how to write a novel
I'm staying up late reading "Culture of Critique"
I really need to dive back into that book
Do you think it's a good idea to read two books on the train?
so I don't get bored of one
I have the WN Manifesto which is really short
could probably finish the whole thing
read BAP, i couldn't put that book down
Yeah, I usually have about 3 books I'm going through. One is usually really serious non-fiction, one serious fiction, and one is some fun read to tune out
Can't have only one super serious book to read
I haven't read a fiction story book in like 2 years, but I think I found one to get back into it.
@Flint Becoming more nationalist has actually pushed me further left economically
Stephen Pressfield's "Gates of Fire" should be mandatory, imho
Why should I support policies that benefit a business elite which wants to replace us?
@Lawrence of Eurabia Well, I can only read the books I brought with me
Honestly, the man is the greatest alive at historical fiction. Gates of Fire is about the Spartans at Thermopylae
It's a West Point req'd reading list book
Ernst Junger's "Storm of Steel" was pretty good. I'm looking for the 1922 version though, cause I hear it's a lot different than the one from the 1970's.
I really liked Caesar's Commentaries on the Gallic War
Storm of Steel was good as far as historical works go, but there was no narrative
Gates of Fire will challenge you as a man--no joke
I'll look into it. I should probably read it being a Cadet
Yeah, you'll have to, eventually
I'm also gonna write up interview questions for Jared Taylor on the train
There's no harder book on 'being hard' than Gates of Fire
That's literally what it's about
the last fiction book I read was Pat Conroy's "The Lords of Discipline"
Dudes at various ages going through the battle of Thermopylae in various ranks and experiences--while being written by an arguably master historical novelist
GOT has nothing on GoF
my goal is to write history books someday
The only book I read once a year
Read Stephen Pressfield to see what a master at the craft looks like
Patton's "War As I Knew It" was a really interesting book. It's the collection of the journals that his wife edited and allowed to be used, and the start of the book he was never able to finish.
being in this organization makes me feel so dumb
normally I'm more well read than the people in around
but then I go to IE meetups and the conversations are way over my head
I'm not a well read as most people in IE, but I'm defiantly more read than your average guy my age
they're always analyzing philosophy that I can't understand
most philosophy probably needs to be read multiple times
most books in general need to be read multiple times unless it's simple stuff
well
it probably depends on your reading level
I got lazy with reading as a teenager
being part of this movement inspired me to start reading full books because I want to not because I have to
I never did that when I was younger
I did go on Wikipedia tangents though
Along the lines of most books needing to be read twice, I'd say the authors failed
I know that I *can* read a book twice and gain more, but for an author to expect anyone to read their book twice (luckily they did the first time), is bad strategy
I just forget stuff
and my reading comprehension isn't where it should be
probably higher than then average person
but lower than ๐ ฑig ๐ ฑrained IE members
lol, to be fair my reading comp is sky high--but not my math score
>Read this book, guy
>Oh, I know where this is going.
>Here's some long division
>erm, where's my book..?
ahahaha the conversation I just witnessed in the train station
> where are you from, Russia?
*nods*
> where at in Russia?
> Ukraine
baste
I did some more digging on Trump's bump stock ban, this is apparently something he started promising he would do back in February. That makes me feel a bit better about it I guess. I sometimes wonder if him giving bones to the lefties like Crim. Justice reform + bump stock ban give him cover for things like withdrawing troops from Syria.
I'm literally in Odessa right now
just got a bit of internet connection
@Jacob nice! My dad went there a few times, he said it was beautiful. Are you with family?
oh, it's the Odessa in Washington, so probably not as exciting
though visiting Ukraine one day sounds fun
@Jacob LOL yeah very different
the girl sitting next to me was speaking Russian though
who knows, maybe she's from the original Odessa!
Ukrainian is an eastern Slavic language and sounds very similar to Russian.
My girlfriend is Serbian, and speaks it fluently. Sounds Russian, too
A lot of Slav languages are like that tbh
Mhm
Same with the Romance languages
Even if Trump gets the Wall, he will be sued out the ass for it
Peak 2019: a Trump appointed judge rules border wall unconstitutional
You can tell that women created Romance languages
The fact of the matter is if it does its out of his hands. He becomes a martyr to the people. Now he's just a betrayer. At this point it's not even about the wall it's just a pissing match to see who's gonna back off first. If the nuclear opition is called the dial is just turned up by a lot.
@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL Ukrainian sounds really weird to me
oh you probably didn't know that I speak Russian
so your message makes sense
Boys Iโm feeling good about wall funding this morning
I hope when the president closes his eyes at night he hears โbuild the wallโ chants
#metoo
Happy Winter Solstice, IE!
Happy winter solstice! ๐ ๐ ๐
Wow just wow! This is just like my cartoons!!1!! Trump is just like voldemort + magneto times a billion!!
@Argument of Perigee happy winter solstice. Shortest day of the year.
I always figured Ukrainian sounds a bit like Russified Polish, I believe I've read before that Polish and Ukrainian are somewhat similar
@Papa Pizzagate Come on Trumptard you're just like Malfoy from Harry Potter. Don't you see where you're wrong kid Hermonie is going to win!!!
Trump is Thanos
How I wish this were true
***With just one little snap I'll build the wall and deport every Mexican***
๐ โจ ๐
...I tried.
You know if Trump will just stay on point and keep swinging, even if he fails he'll be a hero in my book.
I'm afraid he likes people to like him too much though.
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