@ophiuchus Sir, you have shown me the low gate in the garden wall. The Thomas Wolfian portal to my erudite and enlightening bothers. I cannot give you money sir, as you deserve, but I give you a hale and hearty hand clasp.

Any time fam, glad to help

You're about the same age as my dad- very used to helping out with technology haha

Actually, if you're 63, you're pretty much exactly as old as my dad- I think he shares a lot of your opinions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ul4429H84

@JohnAtlas what's the tl;dr?

or, tl;dl?

too long didn't read

can also be used the same as "long story short" as well

i like this version

@Flint ?

What's the synopsis of the video?

^

tl;dr = too long; didn't read

Ladies and gentlemen, Burt and I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9LYvER9Lao

Where's Suomi Stronk been?

Which state is he?

those fellas should know

Ahh, is that an abbreviation I don’t know? It’s just interesting. It’s about the inconsistencies in what Stefan has said about his Jewish (or lack thereof) heritage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7jrVwmspC8

I took almost a month off when my kid was born

No time, too tired

@JohnAtlas lol, yeah man, welcome to the internet, fren

@Flint 👌🏻

@Virgil OH DAMN. Now that I will watch

For sure

Is it bad that my knee jerk reaction is to root for Dawson?

6:54 Spencer calls Dawson a "meaningless middle class moron" <:really:453005408064241674>

What an ass... this guy

Does Spencer realize he's not that big brained?

Is this a clip of an earlier video?

Dummies fake sophistication every day

And what good is a big brain when you can't hang with the bois?

Either way, Dawson should stick to Israeli policy and 9/11 stuff--that's his forte

7:12 "I want people like you out of the Altright"<:really:453005408064241674>

Dawson is *the* guy to go to about the 9/11 events and the surrounding intelligence agencies, shame to see him try and debate race

But also, Spence = relevant? Lol

The best take away from Spencer will always be "Sarg'n"

And "Faustian spirit" lol

I used to not give a damn about the guy, but the other day he called Casey a "poser"--so f 'em

He's just pissed IE isn't his goon squad. Casey literally saved IE with that one decision

PRO TIP: If you want a working class security detail, don't make fun of their social positions

And before you have contempt for the middle and working classes, ask yourself who the warrior class is

A little common sense goes a long way

@Flint I feel so sorry for Spencer. He IS one of us, but he's in over his head. I remember his speaking at an AmRed conference about 7 or 8 years ago. From the beginning I could tell he was struggling. Of course he had some amazing people to follow; Peter Brimelow, Jared Taylor, John Derbyshire, Sam Dickson. And there was this old, old man who was originally from the NE US, and he had gone to Africa decades ago. He was interested in anthropology and education. He studied Africans and lived amongst them for decades. His observations are priceless. He was once trying to go from the Congo along the coast to Nigeria. Through most of this trip (early 2000s) his journey was fairly uneventful, but he his some country which had never been colonized. One of the few. It was total mud swamp gridlock. He decided to pull off the road and stay for a few days and let the quagmire drain. While he was there he met a Nigerian college professor. They were drinking and talking and our White man asked of the Black man, "Why is it that the roads are so horrible here, and yet they are not do horrible in your neighboring country. The Black man said, "That is an easy answer. It is because we were never ruled by the French or the English, but our neighbors have been fortunate to have had that good fortune. Many wish they would come back." I'll try to find the link.

He's not wrong about Dawson though. If you want to talk economic nationalism gtf back to Fox News.

I don't disagree that economic nationalism is blegh, but... Spencer leading the ethnostate?

I'm sorry, I just don't see it

or leading much of anything since his sites have tanked, his NPI thing burned down

had to delet that pic, didn't realize there was a pistola in it...

No, of course, he's not the leader we need. I don't think anyone still thinks he is.

I honestly have never heard anything new and interesting by Spencer outside of the term "ethnostate"

I was always just... disinterested in the guy. Saw him at AmRen, didn't even introduce myself

@Recombined Is that any reason to call people names and talk about how great you are and how you need to be more of an elite and how you're the chosen one. Furthermore Dawson was having a practical discussion on how Trump has changed things in the US, within the context of our current system.

it's weird since Spencer doesn't even really look at himself as Alt Right

(anymore at least)

the term is effectively dead and yet... he still seems to think people _want_ to identify as it

Spencer is really dumb

It is a hard fact that as we gain more and more popularity that we will have the inarticulate rabble-rousers who do no care about whom they offend. A mass movement is not a precise instrument. But a mass movement is what we will have. And then will come the reckoning.

Nothing like some movement drama late in the night/early in the morning

No, he's really not.

@ThisIsChris no, he’s too smart for his own good

I have my concerns about Richard as well, but he’s still done a lot for the movement, especially in catapulting the Alt Right into mainstream discourse. Punching right only goes so far

but is mainstream discourse really desired at this stage?

It doesn't matter what we call ourselves. We are the future. The wagons are circled.

I know I'm going to sound insane: but Spencer's insistence on going to the press resulted in a lot of bad

@JohnAtlas If you're IE, Spencer doesn't like you

yes it got the name out but there are... alternatives

Spencer accomplishment

I don't think the guy is the worst ever, but he's just too selfish too lead anything

And really, he does it to himself

Easy to hate on the guy but he used his name, face, and body to take hits all the way into this thing of ours and helped bring it to where it is now. You can debate how much but not whether he had a hand in it.

Remember guys, Spencer money if nothing else

In what way did he help?

Surely you jest, sir.

One day he'll have access to hundreds of millions if he doesn't already

we have three Micks in IE

I’m not standing up for him, but I don’t think he would ever say he dislikes all IE members. Maybe the leadership, but that’s between them. There doesn’t need to be so many divides within our movement. We need all of our people on the same side, working towards the same goals. Spencer has dedicated his life to the movement. He’s made some serious mistakes, and is definitely not leadership material at this point. I just don’t feel the need to ceaselessly criticize him

He lead a lot of people into antifa crowds at MSU

@ThisIsChris ask almost anyone who moved over in the past 5 years

I just think Spencer is a guy with a very impressive vision, but without the capacity to be The Leader. He will be honored and remembered as one of the early heroes who spoke out and acted. How many of us would have dared do and say what he has done and said.

Agreed.

@JohnAtlas He officially denounced IE and called us too middle class.

@JRobertson I assume that's most of us. Trying to understand what to thank him for.

Exactly

@Virgil I know. He’s egocentric

He sees us not letting him lead us as shitting on him

Spencer also started an operation to ruin IE and make us go away

I don't look for enemies, but when they try to disband you....

Which spectacularly failed

Somewhat spectacularly, he did peel people off, but mostly people we were better off without. Cursed Eli at least.

Like 10 people

Am I the only one that enjoyed “Alt Right Politics” episodes?

I did as well

I will give Spencer credit for NPI which is a solid idea

@JohnAtlas I used to think the same way you did, but then I started talking to people in IE and the broader movement. Some of the stories I've heard of him would make anybody's skin crawl. There's a reason nobody wants to work with him.

executed less than good

@ThisIsChris And where are they now?

@Virgil Skin crawl? He's a womanizer. There are worse vices.

Who could trust a guy that seeks to eliminate teams on their own side?

I enjoyed the Altright.com podcasts with Conte, he actually had meaningful things to say from time to time

@Flint as far as I know, variously lost.

I feel bad for all of them

What a cruel fate

for real, though

Yes, but I think someone with good foresight could have seen that being a mistake

we can't afford people with bad foresight

true, but I hate to see the foolish get punished--but nature is cruel, right?

Hundreds of millions. Remember people

@Flint absolutely. being able to make mistakes is a luxury of those already in power

Thats game changing money

@Virgil I believe it. I haven’t talked to nearly as many as I’m sure you have, but the topic did come up in my 2nd interview. He clearly has flaws. However, he’s one of the first Alt Right figures I started to follow, along with Jared Taylor. He’s had inspiring days. And I wish him no ill will. In a perfect world, we wouldn’t have the energy, nor the reason to critique those within our own movement. There are so many bigger fish

@JRobertson are you talking about spencer?

And I have an inherent distrust of people who so flippantly join and leave organizations

with respect to the money?

Yeah

I don't think he has nearly that much, as I understood it was a few million. enough to make him independently wealthy but not enough to fund a movement

He's heir to a massive fortune

@JohnAtlas Do remember that this is an in-house conversation and not public

If he doesn't have it now he will one day

We don't go after the dude in public--like he does to us

Our movement is at best only about 10 years old. Before that we had, and still have the great philosophers, but then it started to come into the open, as it needed to. The first revolutionaries who act are the generally among the fringe. That's why Trump is so exciting. He is a MAN who knows the score. He is his own man who has plowed a very difficult row. He is very, very tough and smart. Until Trump we have had some very effective leaders, but they have all been ivory tower types who have nevertheless had the courage to put Whites before career. Peter Brimelow was a monster journalist in the early-90s who queered his pitch when he began pointing out that third-world immigration was killing us. He was immediately declared a leper by the mainstream Leftists and neoCons. That's when he started

@JohnAtlas Understandable, I used to follow him, in fact one of his podcasts got me to join IE in the first place. But the issue is that he is a bit of a liability and he continuously goes after us, unprovoked.

@OMGDwayne Depending on how you define movement its almost 100 years old, here in the USA

@JRobertson I am skeptical. He wouldn't be doing what he does now if he had that kind of money. At those levels you're talking thinktanks and platforms. Not his blog and occasional periscope

@Flint Fair point. Since we’re on the subject though, I thought I’d share my views. Obviously, you can criticize him all you want.

I get you're saying he doesn't have the money yet though @JRobertson

I can respect that

@ThisIsChris Look it up dude, either he has it now or he will have it.

Land value alone, I mean Jesus

When the time comes he could fund... anything

Was that piece you're talking about not a parody? Or am I thinking of something else?

@NateDahl76 unmute me chief

Thanks chief

Good to see the mods watching 😉

Can never be too careful

wtf? there's a chat going on?
>tfw not told

@JRobertson I see it now, looks like it's around 20-25 million dollars. he could do some stuff with that but I'm not sure how much. I don't think its worth us kowtowing to him, better a more level-headed backer

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/richard-spencer-cotton-farms-louisiana-subsidies/

>He is in a position to know. Spencer, along with his mother and sister, are absentee landlords of 5,200 acres of cotton and corn fields in an impoverished, largely African American region of Louisiana, according to records examined by Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting. The farms, controlled by multiple family-owned businesses, are worth millions: A 1,600-acre parcel sold for $4.3 million in 2012.

>The Spencer family’s farms are also subsidized by the federal government. From 2008 through 2015, the Spencers received $2 million in US farm subsidy payments, according to federal data.

@ThisIsChris Imagine for a second if IE had just a million dollars

@JRobertson I'm confident we will get that and more

Me too. My point is avoid drama with Spencer and demonstrate that we are the future

I think we are doing that in an acceptable fashion

But one day he will have that Spencer money

And he will want to give it to people who can enact real change

lmao nah

😂

@JRobertson Well avoid drama I agree, but I do think people within our thing should know openly what we've learned about Spencer the person. Too many people come in from the false "everyone is the same just different strategies" narrative which is misleading.

I'm pretty sure when I saw this the first time someone told me it was fake

absolutely could have been told wrong tho

Don't really know what to believe about that guy

GGGUUUUUUYYYYYSSSSSSSS

SAUCE

*IS IT TRUE?????*

epic

Oh dang

shady source

@JRobertson Lemme find out...

***WHAT?***

The salt... I cant imagine

This would break a million HIPPA laws

***NANI?***

hippa gay

lol

hippa gay

Best line all week

What do you have to do?

yeah yeah hippa gay but hippa very legally binding

don't really believe this

Don't get me wrong, would own, but idk about this

I'd give it 50/50

Breaking HIPPA laws to own the libs

She may be dying based on the odds

dabbing on my court date to own the libs

and this being politics, HIPPA is likely not involved

Inspirational. Something to reflect on

good optics voice chat

The lefty "self-care" meme is so tiring

@Reinhard Wolff can we have a server where members can send pics of their proposed gfs and a council can approve if they can date them.

I would jokingly agree, but the standards on the 'dissident right' are absurdly high

I want the full Asian process of dating added to this

@ChippedStones That would get autistic quick

I like it

I don't believe Ginsburg would retire

not now

I PROPOSE IE LEGISLATION AND FUNDS TO PUSH MY GOALS FORWARD

She may be forced to retire

@ChippedStones we need to have a vote on it

You can't be on life support and still hold the seat

I AS A REP OF NV PROPOSE A YES!

@ThisIsChris wtf? are we a democracy now?

How un-fash, brah

No I’m the captain now

"Had to miss my bariatric surgery appointment today... really experiencing some emotional distress and needed to binge netflix and eat 3 pints of ice cream.... self care is important y'all!!" 🌻

@Flint We're now a constitutional republic 😎

@Ald "that could get autistic"

it is already autistic

We’re a constitutional monarchy* @ThisIsChris

MAGA-archy

^

This

I'm leaving the chat and going back to my sh*tty 80's music

shadilay

We're gonna need the calipers on the case to determine gf acceptability

😂

for determining child bearing ability, of course, definitely not thiccness

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIjGKyrdT4Gja0VLO40RlOw

New image of IE gf council, gotta say Patrick you work miracles quick!

@ChippedStones

yo

have u heard of the chad vs virgin meme

nah, explain it

What's a 'meme'?

What is is?

What is this server?

I just wanted to game

Where am I?

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?!

Nice Respectable People

brapropa

Oh

@Alerio

@Alerio

🤔

what even is politics

found a solution, ear buds with music in one ear, headphones w/discord chat in other

*already an optics chat*

There are people sleeping in the next room over, otherwise I would join in.

I'm just lurking, you don't have to speak, just fyi

Haha, I think they’re on a good roll. Btw, that Spencer vs Dawson video was hilarious — epitomized by them choosing him to stay on in the end, making Ryan leave.

Haven't seen it, I was excited until I found out it wasn't a JQ debate

Dawson knows and hates Israel, but doesn't agree with the JQ (to my knowledge)

So, it would've been interesting

But, race... Dawson's gonna lose

Bc he's one of those

Interesting. He wants to talk to God, but deny the Holy Spirit.

@JohnAtlas true true

Hey fellas.

Why is voice chat poppin off

Unmute me @NateDahl76

Bottom text.

@fgtveassassin You'd think it was, lol

cuz its friday!

!