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What a joke 702 is....
I keep thinking "I cannot believe this", but then I remember "actually I can" ๐ข
I wonder if they listen to themselves and hear what they say and how they do it, how stupid they sound, by trying to play Ernst Roets into a corner to fit their view...
Sadly all most 702 listeners know about Afriforum, is the lies and propaganda they hear and read in MSM.
Yip,
@Hotwire Kinda glad Renaldo gave him the opportunity to Air his real views
Yip, even Renaldo admitted that he had a false perception about Ernst created by MSM.
Yeah, amazing how powerful propaganda can be like yeah?
Only the beginning is interesting.
"Donald Trump is a fan of conspiracy theories. Or at the very least, he falls for them often, as we saw this week when he uncritically repeated a white nationalist talking point he picked up from Tucker Carlson, who incorrectly claimed that South Africa was robbing land from white farmers."
Yep it is all google's fault ... what a bunch of snowflakes.
https://gizmodo.com/president-trump-accuses-google-of-rigging-search-result-1828647850
@ZombieQueen Think they really care when they can get more clicks by offering what other more ethical sources can provide???
@ZombieQueen Yeah media doesn't give a shit
@ZombieQueen Whatever happened to Journalistic integrity...
Clickbait happened.
Getting more views and subs than the next guy happened. @Sheamus Pretty much.
@ZombieQueen I genuinely think its the rise of Youtube and Alternative media
I mean..I myself adore YouTube, but as the generations come and go the attention span is shortening... so, sensationalism sells.
Short, inflammatory pieces are consumed far more than their legit counterparts .
@ZombieQueen I mean in the sense of independent news sources and people who share their own political opinions happened...News had to compete with these more "trustworthy" sources so they resorted to sensationalism..because that sells
And unfortunately the objective perspective is out shadowed by personal or political agenda.
You know youtube could really be great if they werent deliberately screwing around.. Google is in on all this, as is all the major social corporations
True Story @Darkseid
@Sheamus Youtube was amazing until Susan took over and is turning into mainstream shit
@Darkseid Yep... honestly, the James Damore scandal was enough for me to distance myself, I can only distance myself so much having an android phone, that was not even a month old when that shit hit... but I have slowly replaced google with alternatives as much as I can
Google is damn everywhere...at least I left Facebook lol
lol it's really only youtube and my google account on my phone... else I dont really use anything else. Just waiting to one day buy an alternative for my mobile phone
https://m.fin24.com/Economy/Eskom/numsa-signs-eskom-wage-deal-after-months-of-talks-20180830 Eskom gets injection from China...first order of the day, increase pay...
Lk
@Conscious Caracal that's fucked up b/c they do promote violence and it implies trump is racist when he is not, what propaganda b/s
A very interesting read regarding IQ and violent tendencies....
I am somewhat not surprised.
lol ""They give land to Gucci farmers who turn up on their land with crocodile-skin loafers, driving Porsches," he said. "How do you expect them to make a success of it? They don't even live on their farms. This is not what a farmer is."" https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12117720&ref=rss
Hey, guys. I know this might be old, but regarding the exam walkout:
Although people/students claimed that they recieved the wrong paper.
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University of Limpopo Vice-chancellor, Mpho Mokgolang, said: โAll I know is that the cover was not correct. It stated HEDA 301 instead of HEDA 302. But the content was what students were studying.โ```
https://www.iol.co.za/sunday-tribune/news/limpopo-students-who-walked-out-during-exam-could-face-suspension-says-vc-16843755
Future chinese colony ftw
I'm tired of this shit
Aren't we all
This faggot wants us to get Iran'd
making a bomb threat to a US embassy is beyond stupid. He must be mentally handicapped
Lol understatement
If every intelligence agency in the US didn't have their spotlight on SA they definitely do now
https://www.timeslive.co.za/sunday-times/business/2018-09-03-ramaphosa-says-chinese-aid-is-not-new-colonialism/?platform=hootsuite Sure Cyril whatever makes you sleep at night
no strings attached. it is an "investment" into buying the union buildings. he read the book "The Art of the Steal" by Varun Gupta
social engineering
his books
title = {Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness},
author = {Richard H. Thaler, Prof. Cass R. Sunstein},
publisher = {Yale University Press},
isbn = {0300122233,9780300122237},
http://download1.libgen.io/ads.php?md5=2F655DCDA784A06DFE867424DE24FA42
title = {Misbehaving: The Making of Behavioral Economics},
author = {Richard H. Thaler},
publisher = {W. W. Norton & Co.},
isbn = {039335279X,9780393352795},
year = {2016},
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other books by Richard H. Thaler http://libgen.io/search.php?req=Richard%20H.%20Thaler&column=author
O'Donnell supports a liberal immigration policy, saying in 2011 that "[w]hen I was at the Treasury I argued for the most open door possible to immigration โฆ I think itโs my job to maximise global welfare not national welfare." O'Donnell has repeated this view in a milder form in newspaper articles, and thinks that his views about immigration are in the interests of the average British person, notwithstanding some short-term losers.
above taken from http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=99A150CE5D16CB1B0F97724AE31F2122
title = {The Road to Somewhere: The Populist Revolt and the Future of Politics},
author = {David Goodhart},
publisher = {Hurst},
isbn = {1849047995,9781849047999},
year = {2017},
Population Engineering and the Fight against Climate Change
https://www.statnews.com/2018/08/08/crispr-human-embryos-scientists-reject-criticism/ one of the worst developments in the 100years
1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
some interesting things to read:
https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2018-09-03-ramaphosa-strikes-deals-in-china-to-bring-jobs-factories-to-musina-makhado-corridor/
the South African Energy Metallurgical Base is subsidiary of a Chinese conglomerate Shenzhen Hoi Mor Resources Holding Company
http://www.emsez.com/en/index.php
and then you get this shit that was drawn up to coincide with these deal in 2015:
Physical security of property
9. The Republic must accord foreign investors and their investments a level of
physical security as may be generally provided to domestic investors in accordance with
minimum standards of customary international law and subject to available resources
and capacity
https://www.thedti.gov.za/business_regulation/acts/Investment_Act_22of2015.pdf
and then the very next point in that act:
Legal protection of investment
10. Investors have the right to property in terms of section 25 of the Constitution
last point in the act:
16. This Act is called the Protection of Investment Act, 2015, and comes into
operation on a date determined by the President by proclamation in the Gazette
oh and guess what i found when i continued digging:
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/protection-of-investment-act-commencement-gazetted-foreign-mediation-bee-section-25-constitution-2018-7
GG @Robzombie, you just advanced to level 1!
bomb scares in ZAR https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n-7oGkAKmropYDFZs7q7ucNIj67FJ56J (not added petrol bombings or CIT bombings or ppl found with explosives)
4.9.2018 Kolonnade shopping centre in Montana
29.8.2018 Nelson Mandela Square and Mall of Africa
24.8.2018 Southgate Mall
3.8.2015 Bomb scare at gov building
2.8.2018 Eskomโs Eastern Region area office
1.8.2018 Masjid Taqwa mosque
25.7.2018 Freedom Park
19.7.2018 Woolworths outlet in La Lucia Ridge
14.7.2018 Kenilworth Shopping Centre in Cape Town
12.7.2018 Phoenix Police Station, Durban
12.7.2018 Woolworths outlet at Cornubia Mall
9.7.2018 Spar in Austerville in Wentworth
8.7.2018 multiple explosive devices detonated near Greyville in Durban
6.7.2018 Woolworths in Gateway shopping centre
14.5.2018 Three Southern Cape schools
19.2.2018 Explosion shuts down OR Tambo
KwaZulu-Natal is in the lead rank at 1st place with 8 events (note this figure is just ranking not the actual number of bomb reports)(edited)
Gauteng ranks 2nd with 7 events
Cape ranks 3rd with 2 events
newish muslims citizens are certainly in the lead compared to other groups
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5zHxrQo8C0qbEhwRGdhUjdGdjA Britain at War with the World (Masters of Warfare) 1600-2011 in 400 years they has been less than 60years of peace and no war..........
Tell me again why are they the Left?
( อกยฐ อส อกยฐ)
https://www.africanstand.com/news/africa/east-africa/china-to-take-over-zambias-international-airport-for-debt-repayment/amp/ Africa for Africans more like Chinese amirite
https://www.news24.com/Columnists/MelanieVerwoerd/afriforum-is-taking-us-to-the-edge-of-the-abyss-20180912 News24 can go and suck it! Funny how this is published today and they have nothing related to Afriforum joining hands with COPE to take this issue to the international community. Disgusting!
I guess if your surname is Verwoerd you gotta signal your virtue non-stop
I don't know why anyone still read news24 anyway
@spursfan82 suppose that's what happens when a woman doesn't have a reasonable man around to keep her feelings in check anymore... Feelings end up dictating reason, instead of the man reasoning with her feelings.
@Franwilder you should still read it, just don't take it seriously is all.
@Sheamus Its hard to get through these articles. Full of slander.
I know that to some, when Ernst spoke in parliament, he may have come across aggressive. But fuck, we should be aggressively against EWC! There was nothing racist about what he said.
@spursfan82 I believe that he has expressed the AfriForum position allot better on previous occasions. What is really interesting from the AfriForum presentation was not what Erns said, or how he said it. It was the way in which he was attacked without any protection in a forum supposedly designed to allow all view points to be heard without fear or favor. If nothing else, AfriForum succeeded in exposing the very real threat for any one who opposes EWC.
@ABear He was really passionate! I thought it was great. What do you think of Mosiuoa Lekota?
I think Mr. Lekota is as strong as they come. He remains true to himself and committed to the path that was chosen during 1994 and he is doing so in the face of tremendous opposition. But I fear it matters very little. Politics is a numbers game and I am not convinced that the likes of Cope and the DA will be able to pose any obstacle to the direction the ANC has chosen for this country.
well.. especially not the DA
@spursfan82 I don't really believe the DA has moved dramatically from their political trajectory. I have always believed them to be progressively more liberal every passing year. I think that many people mistakenly believe the DA being a party interested in, if not protecting, at least supporting the interest of the white population. But the DA is not a white party by any stretch of imagination. I would classify the DA as a democratic socialists party. They certainly support the notion of capitalism and a free market system to a much greater extent than does the other major "Marxist" parties, but, as the Facebook post demonstrates, market share will dictate that they must increasing support socialist policies to ensure growth and relevance.
@spursfan82 The policies of cope and the DA sounds very similar. But you are likely to find statements which appears being at odds in the same policy documents of both parties. On the one hand you will find both parties professing that they stand for "non-racial, non-sexist democratic governance". However, both parties expressly support policies aimed at addressing inequality and diversifying the economy. In other words policies aimed to prejudice and discriminate on racial and sexual grounds.
I've never really looked into cope until now.
I remember a while back the DA and cope were about to team up but it fell apart at the last minute.
Cope won 0.67% of the votes during the 2014 elections. The DA 22.23%. together they have less than 23%.
Do you think EFF will gain some more voters in 2019?
More than the 6.35% but I doubt that they will really increase significantly. The ANC will probably win some of the support back that it lost the last few rounds of elections. All and all I think the balance of power will remain spread out along the same lines as it presently is.
@spursfan82 I really dont know how Ernst could come accross as agressive lol, or even racist for that matter. He was just firm in his stance, he doesnt sway to peoples emotions, and thats what bugs them. A person who's steadfast in reason cannot have their feelings exploited, such a person cannot be swayed the other way. Let the people feel, afterall it is their own hell they create, their own misery, and their own suffering because they just refuse to acknowledge or accept the facts and truths. Anyone reasonable watching can see who the enemies of the truth is, the liars and the ignorant. So what if they are bigger in numbers, the bigger the echo chamber, the more ignorant the fools are. It's a damn shame, but the world is watching, and they are witnessing the truth none the less.
@Sheamus and @spursfan82 have you guys considered the strategy of the ANC on EWC and the various responses and how it plays into their hands. I find it a very interesting chess match and one, I am sad to say, I believe the ANC is presently winning. However, I believe their victory will be short lived and will come at a much greater cost than the ANC anticipates.
@ABear yeah! are you saying their short-lived victory come at great cost to the ANC?
Yes, but really to South Africans in general.
how so?
@ABear it's a game no doubt, and they are winning by their own crooked rules. but make no mistake, they only win because their opposition doesn't lower themselves to play that game.
No... they are winning because they are playing it smarter than most. So this take on it. They knew they had enough votes to pass EWC in Feb but chose not to do so at that time. They embarked on the farce of public participation and they did so to apiece their critics. They silenced Malema who was very vocal and increasingly calling for violence against white people until Australia came out in support of a visa for white SA farmers on humanitarian grounds. Malema has toned his warlord like tone down significantly since than even suggesting that white people is welcome here. And than something interesting happened. The ANC started to punt the idea that the constitution in its present format already allows for EWC. Even more interesting was the announcement by the ANC that they "have listened to the people" and are going to roll out EWC to test the constitution as it stands, which everyone criticized as premature. However, I think it was genius. Ever since that announcement an increasing number of academics and business leaders has come out in support of the idea that the constitution presently allows for EWC and that no change is required or that a cosmetic amendment will be sufficient. That is exactly what I believe the ANC wanted...
Most of the speakers apposing EWC during the parliamentary inquiry supported the idea that the constitution presently allows for EWC and this is why I think they did so. The constitution as it stands require that a court must decide on if compensation is required given a very specific case. The Expropriation act will be amended to bring it in line with the constitution in this regard with a provision that eviction shall be effected upon delivery of the expropriation notice. That way the land will immediately be taken. Any local or international opposition will be stifled because the government will argue, correctly, that the evicted person has the right to claim compensation through a court process which we all know will be protracted and only settled years after eviction. The international community will have no choice from a political point of view other than to allow it to play out in the courts.
So, the ANC get to take the land without having to pay a sent for it while the amounts is argue through a lengthy legal court battle. But I believe heir victory will be short lived because this is no victory for the EFF
@ABear lol so then play with the geniuses, at least i now know where you stand. Just remember, a lack of participation in a simple game of cheating, deception and exploitation does not mean retarded. Those with principles play more challenging games to better themselves. If the better persons are to abandon principles and lower their standards, they certainly can and will play it better than the rest. Bring a knife to a fist fight and they will bring a gun to a knife fight. You can always outplay your opponents, question really comes down to should you? I don't think their strategy is any good, their end game doesn't win them anything, they loose. Just watch and see.
What the hell are you on about... if you don't bother reading or your incapable interpreting English than just fuck off. I never once indicated that I support what the ANC is doing. I am simply analyzing.
@ABear you admire them, so i said, go play with them if you admire them.
You don't call someone a genius if you don't admire them. Genius is meant to be admired lol
At least i bother considering their motives and strategy. I don't blindly assume they are black and therefore stupid. That would be stupid
I don't think i am in the mood to suffer fools tonight.. cheers
@ABear i don't consider them stupid because they are black. I consider them stupid because they cheat, deceive and exploit. I never once mentioned Color,... But you brought it up
nah it's not admiration. They a smart in a devious way
@spursfan82 cunning is the word then, not genius.
or evil-genius
@spursfan82 cunning: having or showing skill in achieving one's ends by deceit or evasion.
synonyms:crafty,ย wily,ย artful,ย guileful,ย devious,ย sly,ย knowing,ย scheming,ย designing,ย tricky,ย slippery,ย slick,ย manipulative,ย Machiavellian,ย deceitful,ย deceptive,ย duplicitous,ย Janus-faced
Genius: exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.
synonyms: brilliance, great intelligence, great intellect, great ability, cleverness, brains, erudition, wisdom, sagacity, fine mind, wit, artistry, flair, creative power, precocity, precociousness
get over semantics already. If you want to challenge my analysis by all means do so. just don't tell me who i admire or support in this debate, as if it even matters, when it should be clear as day to any intelligent observer on which side of the fence i am anchored. And yes. your initial response was utterly idiotic
@spursfan82 the last remarks was directed @Sheamus not at you
@ABear choose your words more carefully then, don't be ignorant of the meaning for the words you use. If you going to use genius to describe them, then you define them by that word. You used that word, not me.
I stand by my choice of words. I concede that cunning is appropriate also... but the strategy has elements of foresight and intelligence to it. Is suspect that Hitler might have been described by some as genius from time to time although i also believe it an insult to suggest those that describe him as such as admiring of the man in any shape or form. context is everything
Lol see this is where we differ.. I'm a man of principle, you are a man of context. Good to see where i stand with you.
and i find myself suffering a fool. Good night
What a man dares to do, he should dare to confess - unless he is a coward.
@everyone https://helptheboer.com/
GG @Dexterous, you just advanced to level 2!
@Dexterous listening to that woman in the video with SerpentZA gave me cancer
Can't view it
Guy riding into a crowd of kids blocking traffic
I work close to a school and if I leave close to school's home-time, the streets are just crowded with kids, they take over. I often day dream of ploughing through them haha
This isn't just a western thing. Heaps of other regions around the world understand the concept of "keep off the road"
interesting...
Minister of Enviromental Affairs Edna Molewa has Died aged 62 (condolences to family).... Died from Legionnaires' disease " General cause of Legionairs, Improperly treated water.... Does anyone see the Irony in that...???
lol, irony is well noted.
Stumbled accross this, sounds like they wanting to nake the Linux community "Progressive" lol But meritocracy is what makes Linux so great, if the code was not great, it would not be worth much at all... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5VvJiNUCIA
@WuldGoGayForLauren an idea, essentially pulling the plug. If the contributors are going to be forced out, they going to take their code with them lol.
Can you imagine a Linux distro made by social justice warriors? It would be riddled with Spyware and Trojans lol
Lol wat more popular than you might think..
@Sheamus Everything that puts SJW needs over actual functionality turns to shit...Spyware and Trojans would be the least of your concerns
@Darkseid lol i can imagine the difficulties of actually producing anything... Too busy with the politics to actuality get any work done lol
more destruction, instead of creating anything better to surpass it, it would be easier to destroy others creations and burry it
@Sheamus Ignore Julias and his griefers, he's just one weird guy telling people to take land but doesn't want people near his Sandton crib.
@Rainbow Monkeys Yeah totally understand you... But he is not just one weird guy, he is the representation of 8% of the people, that's over a million weird people clutching to the sdame ideas he spreads
It's history, our history, and it has to be there to remember how the country got here. Not every white person was a racist then in fact De Klerk is the reason Ramaphosa is a president today, we have to respect that.
De Klerk unbanning communism... Can never forgive him for that lol
@Sheamus De Klerk made serious changes to the apartheid policies, look he was no Angel but so isn't Julias. Whilst Julias was the youth league president the dropout rate skyrocketed whilst he was in charge. I see no one ever talking about that in fact if you take a look at his followers they're the most unemployed. Why isn't he using his so "called" connections to establish businesses, and build up youth programmes but instead cashing in on those connections. I see nothing changing in EFF besides more damage to infrastructure that will cost taxpayers more and the government focusing on fixing stuff they shouldn't be focusing on because julias and the clan all they do really is talk and complain.
@Rainbow Monkeys Totally agree with your observations about him and his party and their lack of proactive action, but always enthusiastic about action taken. They are begging the people to give them their responsibility in order to represent them, but not willing to show any initiative to actually do anything to show that they are competent to take responsibility for their own actions, how then are they supposed to be responsible for the people that they represent? And then we have to question why there are people that do not realize this and observe this as we do?
@Literally_Nobody I know right?! No offence but makes you wonder wtf kinda people we have here Lol. But then again we are not a reading nation, I mean if there was a university course in burning tyres I promise the unemployment rate will sit at 8%. People don't factor in the facts, they react to whatever their leaders put there without thinking about it. Look closely, government mentions expropriation without compensation, people are talking kill whites and take their land back. 2. Government announces investment plans with China, EFF says the Chinese want to steal investment, people are up in arms. 3. Government announces the stimulus package and EFF says it's increasing the wealth of white minority. Look at what happened with BEE, black people looted tenders, had a twisted view about the whole thing. These black people are professionals most of them but the pocket change mentality came into place. If those 8% EFF followers are weird then it begs the question. How many other more weird people do we have. It's not that people are oppressed, it's that the whole "kill the Boer" exposed the amount of people who don't have the knowledge or wisdom to think on their on; they have to piggyback behind parties like EFF.
@Rainbow Monkeys Agreed, and this does play into the increasingly lowered standard of education to the point that they now want a seperate education, that's watered down even more... This decolonisation mentality is literally begging to discard their sanity. It's like the politicians want them to NOT be thinking individuals. The media too sensationalize this too, pushing it because that is what is trending. Since when is news reported based on what's trending? Since the clicks matter, that is when... There is a hell of a lot of weird people out there, plenty with their quirks for sure, but one cannot help but notice the obvious problem being exposed from all this, and that is the vastly different understandings and perspectives due to our vastly different values, principles and beliefs that we interpret the world and events within it in a different way as compared to another. This is why we ought to respect and uphold the objective truth, that which we all can agree on, but we dont have that, because we need to tolerate many different truths, we need to tolerate multi-culturism, and so the truth being put out there is whoever has the most influence, politically that is the left, racially the black and idealogically it is marxist. In a democracy the majority rules, that doesnt mean they are right, and it appears that is how the majority thinks, they are right, as long as they all agree. more is always better... Which is argue, it is a matter of quality over quantity.
@Sheamus Hhmm, twisted views don't honestly bring more economic freedom as they claim to. The government has and possibly still is looking to how western countries do about handling their countries. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that but since colonialism is to blame we tend to forget that Asia was colonized as well. They didn't sit down and point fingers at each, they implemented contingency plans, strong policies and focused on developing the private sector, Asia is far from perfect but they've made such big progress. There's nothing perfect here, unless of course you talk about Ariana Grande then we can excuse the not perfect statement, Lol but even you can see that that's also unrealistic and impossible, which is exactly what we want to do, put unrealistic policies and impossible tasks. Exhibit A, when RISA struck a deal with Universal studios to implement their business model to SA to unseat the USA in terms of music because SA has a vast variety of music especially because of the culture, but USA is built into states and those states aren't small and their variety of music culture will be much bigger than SA's entire music industry combined, hence the "unrealistic" implementations fast tracked by the government. It's not that we are in this state because of colonialism but it's the way in which policies were implemented - government then wasn't focusing on our little economy but rather how our economy can be on par with the states. One field we could've improved was our medical field and then the education field. Those two were two crucial fields strong policies and realistic and possible solutions were supposed to be implemented.
@Rainbow Monkeys Yeah agreed, and colonialism is the excuse thrown around as to why we are where we are, and if not that, then apartheid, which is not a valid reason for the continuous failure of flawed ideology. There are really terrible ideas floating around, and there are people that keep these ideas alive, and entertained, and demand for it to become policy, that is a reflection of the people as much as it is the idea that possess those people. I agree with your observations lol we need opposition before this becomes an echo chamber lol
@Sheamus I get that physiologically an economy like this brings low levels of esteem and lack of confidence, but we seriously need to get our shit together and let go of the mediocre surrounding us especially with the media. It's almost like the media is inventing a new type of clickbait and people seem to fall for the nonsense media portrays about south Africa. Someone suggested that we all south Africans should just pack our bags and go on vacation, and possibly leave the country's keys with the neighbors Lol but all in all the statement Rome was not built in one day needs to be understood that Rome wasn't also built by one person. We have to overlook people like Julias whose selling overpriced dreams and focus on the real life situations. It's become such a huge plague that people are settling in with idea of killing farmers who literally have nothing to do with economic uncertainty and then we moved on to killing women who literally did nothing but just merely become women๐.
@Rainbow Monkeys it be difficult to convince people to ignore Malema, considering the things he says is materializing. Kill the farmers and EWC are two big examples of this, so to ignore him would be silly from both sides, on the affected side which is everyone being targeted to be murdered and their property taken from them by the force of the state that they pay tax to, or if you on the other side of the fence, then it would only make sense to use Malema for easy gains, they too would tell you to go fly a kite lol.. It's a messed up situation and problem really. You have people ideologically opposed to one another, which creates the issue of the perception of us vs them, and then that golden rule that encourages equity, which is love thy neighbour as thy own self goes out the door, and becomes non existent as lawlessness takes over. Independent communities like Orania and Zululand become the prime example that seperate but equal development are coming into fashion again as people take interest at how differently and more at peace the lives are of those in an ideologically cohesive culture are not too concerned about their immediate surroundings at all. We can keep diversity in the form of diverse communities, each doing their own experiment. Those that fail can learn from those that succeed and eventually we will reach a new common understanding of success that benefits all, which would put us on an equal footing in respect to value of contributions to society as well as behavior and tolerance towards one another, and to perhaps finally bring about the final conclusion of what was meant to be be achieved initially.
@Sheamus Well said. I think ANC is only letting malema's nonsense materialize because they're between a rock and a hard surface due to elections the following year. Land uncertainty is pushing investors away which poses a problem as well. You can't just rock up on empty land and build up shacks, morally it's seriously rude and lawfully it's illegal. I understand our justice system is beyond repair, but celebrating that the police force have gained more golf GTIs is utterly pathetic. A Polo will do just fine, instead rather that GTI money could be channelled to further enhancing the legacy systems that are prone to fraud and implementing better communication solutions for life threatening situations. Look, the new generation of children cannot suffer the us vs them plague because they literally have nothing to do with racism - we've lost it, parents aren't teaching their kids to dwell away from racism altogether but instead making their children believe between black and white. Not long ago Julias was now attacking the Indians, Lol I honestly feel like that person doesn't deserve to speak because of the level of aids coming from him. But if you say that equal development is becoming a norm again then I guess there's some sort of glimpse of hope. The sad truth is that, the world is moving on and thinking bigger everyday, if we don't catch a wake up, we'll find ourselves without a country to live in.
@Rainbow Monkeys yeah let every independent community that wants to be, just exist on a municipal level where they live and work together in an ideologically cohesive environment that is familiar and predictable to them, and peace will be abundant to be found. We can still do business and trade with other communities, as well as learn from one another. It's still a national building effort.
And that last part about the world moving on to bigger things and thinking bigger and us falling behind, that's unfortunately so true, we are rather far behind now, in spite of not having needed to be. And as things are going, getting bail outs from China, i can only imagine you might be right, we could be found without a country to live in.
@Sheamus I just have to admit though, some of the municipalities were unnecessary. Lol I feel like if you got the office of the premier then traditional affairs and a few municipalities were just fine but because government.. I'm not in politics or anything associated just that facts outweigh perceptions and that's not the case here. Nonetheless, we as society have to let go of our double standards as @Rendier keeps mentioning, blaming the government the entire time just creates a problem on a problem and we need to respect each other and gain back that humane society we were working towards. Some other stuff are unnecessary and admittedly the older generation has really failed the youth and now it's to Hoping the forthcoming generation moves forward with the unity. Right now people don't even want to work anymore because Grant.. But then go on later to complain about unemployment. Here's a simple scenario, black rural townships complain about food shortages and unemployment. Their houses are only 10m big and the rest is the entire yard, they get access to free water and electricity, why not build up a young farm and get people to help you out (en route employment) and then sell to supermarkets, if you've got the knowledge to understand the whole sassa system then you most definitely have the knowledge to understand simple economics. But instead they'd rather spend money on alcohol and then go tarnish government for not providing food. I'm not trying to talk bad about them, I'm just merely stating facts that sometimes taking steps like these could become a serious change in rural townships. The big cities were once rural areas..
@Rainbow Monkeys yeah i know what you mean, it is fact. Reminds me of a colleague i worked with, told me about this group in his parents community that got a piece of farm land, and he advised the people to turn the farm house into a bed and breakfast kind of tourist related business, expand the quarters to accommodate the community and work the land, all those in the community not working a job outside of the community can still keep productive. Crime would go down as everyone is busy one way or another, and they would have something that develops then...
But he says a week later when he went back to help them get organized, the farm house already taken apart and stripped down, and used to build new shacks or upgrade their old ones, and no one really had the motivation to farm for no monetary return.
So there are some things to note from incidents like these... There is this mindset that is cultivated. You are right, there is much potential to this, but it's not kicking off quite as we would expect, because our expectations are based on what we understand, and what makes sense... Their is a while other perception of different expectations and understanding, so the interpretation is so dodgy.
@Sheamus Lol! That's terrible though, seriously terrible. There's so much room for creativity and innovation especially with tourism and farming. We can't be importing mealie meals regardless of the type of technology used on the mealie. Some things we just have stop and rethink the approach. That farm house could've boosted productivity, gotten people into jobs, a bit of CSR (corporate social responsibility) would've been done by subsidising the workers with access to education, that would help the individual and yourself with your business. Eventually the community would follow suite and there you've got your CSR. Still goes back to farm killings, they do a lot of CSR which is unfair to murder them because there are black families that work with them and make a living off of that. Seriously unfair. But back on topic, those shacks bring in no land value and according to UN they're supposed to be uninhabitable, even so government agrees especially with excessive amounts of heat. They don't bring in any land value and where there's any economic activity and room for serious growth investors will always follow, that's just how it is. Things don't just appear and then there's a successful city. If you receive free water and electricity then you basically have cost of maintenance to a near zero. Gives you room to focus on other pressing issues - but hey you're right, there's a serious problem with the mindset there. If you drive by a rural area it looks like sand. Did you know that even with no roads, or even proper fencing; if the communities worked together to clean up the paths and put grass, just that simple idea, you'd see rural areas in totally different perspective, in fact it would look inviting. It's all about the effort and basic stuff, something as small as grass can make a serious amount of change.
Alright, I'm off to bed now, nighty niteโ.
@Rainbow Monkeys yeah still in agreement. Thanks for the time and conversation, i enjoyed it. Good night
oof
isn't that the dweeb that got BTOF by Lauren Southern and Molyneux?
GG @spursfan82, you just advanced to level 9!
"most reject the EFF's policy plan once they understand it"
Yup! I think the EFF are banking on people not understanding the implications of EWC
But we know that lol, they are exploiting the people, while telling the that it is us trying to help them that are exploiting them... It's a battle of ideas, lots of deception involved.
Lol can't believe they put those memes out there lol, free publicity of spicy memes on a mainstream platform lol.
no ways...
"Willem Petzer and his wife Rene outside whites-only town Orania."
no place for racist shit like that
if you cant show/say something to a persons face then don't post it
Still it is kak funny coming from a mainstream platform lol, imagine trying to explain to someone how bad the k word is, but you keep saying the full word... That's what this article achieved in principle.
hehe yeah its a hard one to report on. I guess they figured linking the name with the image makes up for it
Yeah except people reading it will find many of those amusing lol free publicity, whether it be bad is still good publicity lol
!invite
Malcolm the Seceder, it doesn't look like you can use that. <:SMILESWEAT6:403540174069432320>
My God
That made my day
Isn't publishing private conversations that you were not party to slander? (Strictly, these conversations are public, but the citizen doesn't seem to know that, so publishing them constitutes malice).
well, typically the people doing this kind of thing are cowards
oops, chatting about gnomeo, the citizen put names on the article
they're just idiots
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