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Messages from @rob (Discord ID: 311593586359795713)

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  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 02:43:44 PM

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 02:46:27 PM

    aweh , so is this the nazi channel?

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 02:47:21 PM

    ah, my bad, it's the <#468389174894919691>

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 02:49:15 PM

    haha, it's ok

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 03:12:47 PM

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 09:43:44 PM

    awe schnitzel

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 09:54:13 PM

    what do you guys think about this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9785990-3x2-700x467.jpg seems pretty different to the mainstream media message

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 09:55:01 PM

    An excerpt from If Crisis or War Comes
    Posted 22 May 2018, 1:02am (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-22/sweden-issues-leaflet-on-how-to-prepare-for-war/9785934)

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 10:00:26 PM

    I think the interesting part is basically saying watch out for disinfo, ie if we appear on TV saying we've surrendered then that is fake/synthetic.

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 16, 2018 10:03:45 PM

    the threat is internal neo marxist+jihad invasion, I think the military are getting the message out while they still have open communication with the public

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:33:00 PM

    I'm in contact with the Guys at capexit, they know the dudes from usaf and they distanced themselves from them a while ago, right now is wait and see. They put up eviction notices at parliament telling them to voetsek by friday

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:34:29 PM

    basically capexit are seeking a majority mandate, but there are other routes to succession(which is where Cornelius arrived on the scene). I hope it's legit, but we'll see. I doubt it will amount to much

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:39:51 PM

    sure, but media and perception are everything, as I said I have more faith in the capexit folks, they have actual plans for when the SANDF roll in or civil war erupts

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:41:12 PM

    you don't see 2 clear sides? people in favour of property rights vs people not in favour of property rights

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:41:22 PM

    wars have been fought over a lot less

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:45:23 PM

    @Arcade_Hustle jail would be great, I'm scared of getting rounded up and shot like cambodia

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:46:38 PM

    the numbers gangs will probably fight against the communists

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:51:51 PM

    is there a youtube stream tonight?

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 17, 2018 08:52:10 PM

    oh right

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:36:25 AM

    don't worry @rupdog some of us are staying to poes the communists

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:37:36 AM

    I've travelled the world @Arcade_Hustle running is lame if you don't want to leave

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:37:49 AM

    lived all over, didn't really dig it

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:39:17 AM

    well hopefully with that capital you've made some wise safety investments, it's not really about the money though we only get 80 odd years on this football and money doesn't mean shit when you're dead

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:39:47 AM

    they can't run a bath....

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:41:54 AM

    our saving grace is going to be when they print out the lists of dissidents to round up and shoot, some doos hasn't refilled the printer paper

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:45:14 AM

    @HoppeanSnake_ZA if we're going down that road (((they))) are fully behind EWC, it's a communist plot

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:48:23 AM

    @Arcade_Hustle I don't really subscribe to the identity politics (ethnic jews may be good or evil like every other group of people) I do think that catholic church, wahabbism, and talmudism are all crypto satanists though (removes tin-foil hat)

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:49:18 AM

    hmm let's eat flesh and drink blood on sunday goys

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:49:30 AM

    anyway, sorry to derail

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:50:27 AM

    and stop reading marx 😃

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:54:28 AM

    8ball help

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:55:55 AM

    8ball are we going to beat Foolias and co?

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:58:42 AM

    ja guys, let's keep the conspiracy to the corner (I know I'm one to talk)

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 10:59:25 AM

    ja, that's what I meant, I only saw it late, sorry

  • rob #general [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:01:48 AM

    oh shit, we got flat earthers in the conspiracy corner -I'm out

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:11:25 AM

    @Arcade_Hustle just to point out that you promote reformist judaism and @HoppeanSnake_ZA says he has no problem with non talmudic jews. I assume that reformist judaism is like reformation christiantiy which was goin gback to the teachings and away from the captured institution of (cough) satanists

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:13:56 AM

    the specifics of the evil aren't super important to me, to me the important thing is that there is a valid religion that has been captured by evil

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:14:16 AM

    like christianity with the catholic church I think

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:14:33 AM

    where they follow a bunch of 'add on' books

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:15:46 AM

    they aren't anti white, they are anti spiritual, any group that beleives in a personal god is a target

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:16:02 AM

    ja man , I know the propaganda

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:16:30 AM

    but if you think it is specifically against white people you are playing directly into their divide and conquer

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:17:06 AM

    yes

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:17:08 AM

    all of us

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:17:10 AM

    not white

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:17:13 AM

    or brown

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:17:20 AM

    or black

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:17:59 AM

    do you believe that there is truth in the scriptures?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:20:49 AM

    old testament and recorded sermons and dreams (ie some gospel, from the new testament and torah )

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:21:22 AM

    I think that most of it has been compromised, added to and the messages distorted (pretty well accepted that there were edits to the end of matthew)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:22:00 AM

    but a lot of it has come to us unchanged

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:22:39 AM

    @Deejay from Earth is that all talmud?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:22:46 AM

    ja

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:22:50 AM

    talmud = satanism

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:23:00 AM

    = wahhabism

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:23:10 AM

    = catholic church

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:23:35 AM

    reformation was a rection against them

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:23:40 AM

    reaction*

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:24:31 AM

    think of it as the first version of the communists(satanists/centralised corrupt church) versus the individualists(freedom of congregation)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:25:11 AM

    I think that religion had to be captured first by evil groups

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:25:18 AM

    because it is so dangerous

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:26:24 AM

    that's why all organised centralised religions are compromised and authoritarian and they always include 'extra' texts (talmud, catholic texts and the priest laws in islam)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:27:19 AM

    but the truth couldn't be completely erased, and that's why the text still has value and is dangerous to (((them))) that's why communism was born to finally kill religion

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:27:58 AM

    ja man

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:28:09 AM

    I needs some convincing on the flat earth stuff 😐

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:29:22 AM

    ah that's cool, will definitely try be there

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:30:02 AM

    I arrived at religious insights after far too many 🍄

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:30:16 AM

    or blindness

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:31:02 AM

    went from agnostic to a Gnostic

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:31:30 AM

    fasting will definitely take you there (recommended by yeshua ben hur!)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:32:00 AM

    ja I have a friend that spent 10 years in Peru and became a shame

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:32:03 AM

    shaman

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:32:07 AM

    shawoman*

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:34:12 AM

    I matriculated from a christian school, was confirmed but not religious, always seeked to find the common ground between religions and factor out the truth. after direct spiritual experience it seems obvious to me that all of these schools are describing the same process, and equally obvious when there is a program of distraction

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:36:06 AM

    the chakra system is a direct description of the endochrine system, sexual energy is the only form of magic (black magic being the external use of sex and white magic relying on celibacy as all major religions indicate)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:37:04 AM

    tantra is the yogic wasy of talking about that but in western civilization people also discovered it in the 19th century in the US there was a movement called male continence which is similar to tantra

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:39:20 AM

    celibacy being the retention of semen and transmuting the orgasm through the endochrine system. the energy ususally experienced in orgasm is a kind of short circuiting of the spiritual energy at the base chakra, if that energy is cultivated and conserved then it moves up through your chakras one by one, that's what you experienced

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:39:58 AM

    I mean, it's right there in the bible jesus 40 days in the desert

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:40:49 AM

    celibacy in it's true sense is not no penetration (krishna had a harem) but control over orgasm

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:40:59 AM

    jesus had mary magdelene

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:44:57 AM

    Not just that, but realisation of self, ie realising you are holy my favourite song, a bit cheesy but resonates on so many levels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5WxxaqVdXM

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:46:17 AM

    "in this garden of god I see the spiritual world, but its hard to see through this illusory movie, I strive to be conscious of my own immortality, ineffable vision beyond the astral sphere, so ascend within innerspace deathless, samadhi, aware im not the body but the physical the astral the causal the spirit soul be infinity underneath the three bodies made of light drawn energy self manifested pure consciousness will laugh at death, throw off a bag of flesh"

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:47:15 AM

    that was the ship right?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:48:25 AM

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:49:33 AM

    as you posted that these lyrics played on my side(I don't believe in coincidence anymore) ", the etheric core resonates universal law, from the breath of the creator made from two arms of god, all glories to Bhagavan, my pulse Paramatma, killin demonic contact, last lap around the zodiac, "

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:50:02 AM

    the matrix (first one) is amazing

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:52:47 AM

    usually show itself to me in the most stupid ways, I'm researching music gear overseas and BAM someone just listed the item in gumtree cape town

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:53:09 AM

    it's happened too many times, with too many specific things

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:54:14 AM

    I'm listening

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:56:04 AM

    lol, chatrooms since the 90s

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:58:17 AM

    props for the flat earth yin yang video

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 11:59:15 AM

    first thing that makes me want to do some maths

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:01:07 PM

    watching the moon spiralling between the tropics

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:01:33 PM

    to get a period that lines up to our 13 month 365 day cycle

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:04:40 PM

    I ran into something interesting a while ago, can't find the link but it was researchers talking about the field of historiography, the study of the methods of historians and comparative historiography, trying to make timelines out of various data. what they found was that there were a few periods in history where things just didn't line up. they compared astrological events noted in histories and when events were supposed to happen. One of the things they discovered was there are major discrepancies in our accepted historical timeline in the 3rd century AD and 18th century AD

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:05:32 PM

    we're putting the flat earth in the rucksack today we're chatting about other stuff, I just wanted some info

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:05:46 PM

    we're trying to keep <#468388839799390210> neater

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:06:14 PM

    ah

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:06:18 PM

    that just started

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:06:21 PM

    cool

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:08:19 PM

    I'm still open minded on this, but I'm like a bunch of people that have flown, seen curves

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:08:36 PM

    but I also know that what I saw was put into whatever framework i had

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:10:02 PM

    well I know that, but I think they were talking about more juicy conspiracy theory stuff

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:10:16 PM

    I'm thinking 3rd century is the birth of the roman catholic church

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:10:28 PM

    and the 18th century is the split from the catholic church

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:11:29 PM

    basically all the euro settler stock (settler was the best word i could find to encompass USA and RSA and AUS, don't shoot me)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:11:55 PM

    basically all of that stock is breakaway from central control

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:13:55 PM

    Here's my thought for the day, I put it in general but this is a better spot. The catholic Eucharist is a satanic ritual put right into christianity at the beginning to corrupt and control it.

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:14:43 PM

    eating flesh and drinking blood just doesn't jive with me

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:15:44 PM

    when you say our blood what do you mean (asking, not EFF)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:16:01 PM

    caucasians?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:16:08 PM

    Ek's 'n bruin ou

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:16:10 PM

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:16:54 PM

    agreed

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:17:06 PM

    my history is a mystery anyway

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:20:21 PM

    My surname comes from an island in denmark, via some french village where the spelling changed

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:21:14 PM

    but I'm pretty sure most of my history is in the cape

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:28:06 PM

    haha

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:28:34 PM

    I'll start, bhagavad gita says that life is a series of moments between a subject and and object

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:29:13 PM

    think of it like a film strip and each frame has a subject and an object

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:30:16 PM

    when we started the scientific method we started measuring the object, and various people recorded their interations with objects, the common factors were noted and we had the scientific method of identifying objective reality

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:30:38 PM

    the scientists continued drilling down to find the ultimate objects that made up the world

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:30:58 PM

    all my take on what I understand from the various sources I mention

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:32:13 PM

    in the early 20th century quantum physicists realised that they can't measure an object without affecting it by virtue of the measurement

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:32:39 PM

    coming back to the point that life is not objects but a series of subject object connections

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:32:52 PM

    and science is the study of the object

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:33:15 PM

    spirituality/religion is the study of the subject

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:34:47 PM

    anyway, just wanted to flesh out what I think the subject/self/soul is in relation to science and religion

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:35:58 PM

    I like the golden rule, I find it easier to explain by describing its opposite

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:37:03 PM

    humans have the capacity for evil because they know what would feel terrible for themselves to experience and they can therefore do that to others. the golden rule is the opposite of torture/pure evil

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:39:30 PM

    quantum experiments have also confirmed that there is a group non material reality(holy spirit if you like) that generates our material reality in the same way that our immatterial thoughts generate our material electrical impulses in our brain https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/coming-to-grips-with-the-implications-of-quantum-mechanics/

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:39:50 PM

    thanks guys 😃 I enjoy chatting about this stuff

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:42:18 PM

    ja I think smaller groups are important, it's eternal september out there

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:42:38 PM

    good question, what is materialism?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:44:21 PM

    I don't understand it, I always think that after I die I'll get to go through a library of life videos and watch my life and I always think, that's why it's not supposed to be easy, and why it would be horrible to be a prince for example(you'd have to do so much more to have a video worth watching)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:44:42 PM

    you want a story with challenge overcome

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:45:35 PM

    although, now writing that I'm thinking what if it's a library of video games, and what if we're already there playing one now 💥

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:46:38 PM

    so does that mean that other entities are all NPCs?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:47:17 PM

    or does the materialist believe themselves to be some sort of determanistic machine

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:47:27 PM

    or am I just confused

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:49:05 PM

    so the materialist believes that only they and a few others potentially are conscious

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:49:14 PM

    I've wondered that once or twice.....

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:49:53 PM

    it's crazy

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:50:11 PM

    friends that I know are intelligent are brainwashed

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:50:53 PM

    they are often materialistic in their spirituality, it is something outside to display for status(much like our SJWs)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:52:12 PM

    I suppose that's why jesus was all about praying in secret

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:52:30 PM

    I sound like such a bible basher 😆

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:54:24 PM

    I think the vedic view is that there isn't a separation between sprit and thing, the spirit generates the thing from what I understand. but scientists have tried to pinpoint the thing, only to find smaller things ad infintum (eventually they will realise that they are willing smaller and smaller particles into existence)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:56:09 PM

    there is no thing until a consciousness gives it its thingness - a rock is not a rock until a conscience separates it from being 'ground' or 'mountain' or 'planet earth' or the entirety of reality

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:57:30 PM

    lol

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:57:31 PM

    nice

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:58:35 PM

    @Sheamus I think the golden rule is true if you think about it for any amount of time, but what if there are other people with a different spiritual makeup that appear human ?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:59:13 PM

    I've started doing audiobooks, highly recommended, less effort than reading and you can speed up speech to around the same speed as reading

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 12:59:46 PM

    also in light of 'journalism' nowadays and the propoganda in movies, books are still good

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:02:32 PM

    my friends annoy me the most, with their reasoning "but rob, you _can't_ say _that_"

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:03:37 PM

    giving the other debater benefit of the boubt in a debate instead of picking at semantics is an example of why the golden rule just makes things smoother

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:05:16 PM

    just noticing where the golden rule helps society. ebay by all acounts should have lasted a week, people pay, people run away with the money, but it didn't people trusted each other.

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:06:16 PM

    quite a few times I run into the idea that morality doesn't need a religious basis, or it does - what are your thoughts on that one?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:09:27 PM

    where does that put us with psychopaths?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:10:00 PM

    and bipolar women (ducks)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:12:10 PM

    you see I think the verse here "Get rid of value and profit.
    People will not steal
    if they do not desire."

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:12:14 PM

    is so true

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:12:30 PM

    and the communists also believe it

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:12:41 PM

    but they come from a mindset of scarcity

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:13:35 PM

    whereas i see us producing so much 'stuff'(tools) that is good enough for purpose. I think in terms of value created using tools

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:14:25 PM

    I commented on EWC that the communists mustn't be shocked if no one stays to hear them play once they've stolen all the instruments from the orchestra

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:14:54 PM

    I have tons of computers but I can't give my knowledge to my domestic worker

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:15:05 PM

    so just giving 'stuff' has limited utility

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:15:32 PM

    what I'm saying is the only value is really the creative value

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:17:29 PM

    we have what we need(tool wise), the only things of value are not available on the market. Going back to the afterlife video library, you can't buy a video of Mozart without putting in the effort.

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:18:20 PM

    hmm, serving an idea is a really interesting point

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:18:35 PM

    have you guys read Crichton's critique on environmentalism?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:23:25 PM

    I agree with you @Deejay from Earth but I also like the idea I read in The Eternities - Vedanta Treatise (A.Parthasarathy) - basically that there is a certain hygeine required for science, so we see scientists in clean laboratories practicing science, similarly sages need to undergo a cleaning process, but regular people can use the lessons learned by scientists in labs that they never see - in fact it is natural. He says that spiritual lessons are also for the non sages to use, even though they might only be discovered by sages

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:24:31 PM

    If you're going @Sheamus I'd like to leave with one last thought/post

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:26:06 PM

    going to copy the text if you guys don't mind, could find it easily online, the Crichton critique on environment, I think that all true religion fills the space within all humans with a personal god, and I believe that all of the SJW/neomarxists/ideologists try to fill the exact same spot with ideology

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:28:04 PM

    @Deejay from Earth I think the was we are evolving, eventually we will all have the choice to seek enlightenment and plug into the spirtual internet much like we have the ability to learn science and 3d print devices/build software/CRISPr

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:29:29 PM

    coming back to the critique on environmentalism, I think that the Neomarxists are trying to block our connection to the kingdom within, by putting an ideology in its place

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:31:34 PM

    http://dizerega.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Michael-Crichton-Critique-.pdf

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:32:24 PM

    communism is a highly sophisticated spiritual warfare weapon

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:33:34 PM

    what is kinism?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:35:08 PM

    I think we need to reach people on the spiritual level

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:35:26 PM

    I've seen intelligent friends brainwashed, it's sad

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:35:58 PM

    but the spiritual needs to be shown to people in ways that they can understand

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:36:38 PM

    in vedantas book they say the different yogas were ways for different natured people to acheive enlightenment

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:37:02 PM

    so intellectuals need to be shown it intellectually

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:37:14 PM

    and emotional people need to be shown truth emotionally

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:37:51 PM

    in my mind science has explained religion and they align perfectly, the people that disagree are humanities students

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:38:31 PM

    spiritual people need to know god directly like you are advocating @Deejay from Earth

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:39:13 PM

    but some people in our societies are shamans and some are musicians and some are inventors and they all express god through their attention

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:40:08 PM

    I think that the mass of communists in south africa still have gogos that pay funeral cover for a big funeral because they believe in god

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:40:20 PM

    and I think that's the angle that needs to be worked in south africa

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:41:10 PM

    Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:41:22 PM

    it is critical that we evolve spiritually

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:42:50 PM

    different types of people exist, some are messy, some are organised, some talk to god at night, some don't but we all have the potential to speak to god. Our purpose though is to live the life god intended, not to escape it.

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:45:25 PM

    The bhagavad gita starts with Arjuna(a great warrior) facing an army of his cousins and starting to wonder whether all the bloodshed is worth it... Krishna (his friend) arrives, reveals his true identity as Krishna and explains that Arjuna is a great warrior and that he _must_ fight and then proceeds to explain the nature of reality to Arjuna

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:46:08 PM

    you guys up for a debate on this?

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:46:35 PM

    thanks for the elaboration @Malcolm the Seceder

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:48:10 PM

    fair stance

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:49:06 PM

    I think group is more cultural than racial, and those thoughts are pretty default

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:51:12 PM

    @Deejay from Earth interesting, I like the idea of the Renaissance man being able to do a bit of everything, and certainly today you can be quite a prolific tinkerer in the material realm in mainstream society

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:51:51 PM

    I think we're tripping over words here

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:52:35 PM

    I think ideas and ideology are different

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:52:47 PM

    I think ideology is the worship of ideas

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:53:06 PM

    so you have an ideology

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:53:14 PM

    that is the idea that you worship

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:53:25 PM

    like capitalism, etc

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:53:38 PM

    so in the outside world it is fine

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:53:49 PM

    there are loads of ideologies

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:54:26 PM

    but in the spiritual world it isn't fine to subscribe to any ideology that doesn't put a personal connection between you and god

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:57:20 PM

    so if you 'believe' in social justice you put the cause of social justice in your heart, if you 'believe' in capitalism you put money in your heart

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:57:32 PM

    and you always try to accumulate more of that

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:58:25 PM

    but the point of the major religions was working out that actually you have this port in your heart to the source of all creation and that is the only thing worth going there

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 01:59:42 PM

    read the Crichton PDF "Today, one of the most powerful religions in the Western World is
    environmentalism. Environmentalism seems to be the religion of choice for
    urban atheists. Why do I say it's a religion? Well, just look at the beliefs.
    If you look carefully, you see that environmentalism is in fact a perfect
    21st century remapping of traditional Judeo-Christian beliefs and myths.
    There's an initial Eden, a paradise, a state of grace and unity with nature,
    there's a fall from grace into a state of pollution as a result of eating
    from the tree of knowledge, and as a result of our actions there is a
    judgment day coming for us all. We are all energy sinners, doomed to die,
    unless we seek salvation, which is now called sustainability. Sustainability
    is salvation in the church of the environment. Just as organic food is its
    communion, that pesticide-free wafer that the right people with the right
    beliefs, imbibe." consider how these hardwired biological slots get filled by ideology

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:02:49 PM

    My basis is the physiological reality, as I said the chakra system maps to the glands in the endochrine system, your body produces extremely powerful tryptamines and an orgasm in your pineal gland could definitely trigger a spiritual experience, all of the religions seem to be started by someone who unlocks the secret and chooses to help humanity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhisattva)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:03:44 PM

    also each religion gets centralised and corrupted, like clockwork

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:04:18 PM

    we are in cospiracy corner though, have you read the law of one, ra material?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:04:55 PM

    channeled work allegedly from Ra

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:05:08 PM

    https://www.lawofone.info/

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:06:01 PM

    absolutely

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:06:08 PM

    so much disinfo

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:06:21 PM

    and distraction

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:06:34 PM

    that's why seeking within is important

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:09:21 PM

    if you are truly ready for the truth you then 10+day fast or you eat 10+g of 🍄 and it's always been there

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:10:28 PM

    but I wouldn't recommend hanging around, I think that the spirit world has good and evil, just like the material world, I think exploring extremely deeply is a calling

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:11:08 PM

    free will is the whole point of this reality

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:12:25 PM

    fasting is the ultimate non external way

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:12:36 PM

    available to everyone at all times

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:13:53 PM

    I came to this whole thing in a very roundabout manner, so I have no problems with cubensis I think it might have played a crucial role in our development as a species, but you definitely don't need it

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:15:15 PM

    but the mushroom is another conscious entity that you interact with that helps you. I suppose it wouldn't be as direct. similarly the jungle plants seem to be different entities.

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:17:07 PM

    as I was saying earlier I think that sages and scientists are similar, in that the environments that they need to go to to find truth are potentially remote and hazardous, and the lessons learned are more important than the laboratories.. if you get the message hang up the phone

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:17:27 PM

    5 is the usual heroic dose level

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:18:43 PM

    more is better because you don't really have any options and your entire ego is obliterated immediately, you don't have enough consciousness to notice entities or spirits on the way, just exposure to the torrential river of all creation

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:18:57 PM

    obviously don't do that on a nite out in long st

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:19:44 PM

    lol

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:19:45 PM

    shame

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:19:52 PM

    I love regular mushrooms

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:20:25 PM

    but there is a mental association that makes shrooms taste worse over time, or at least they did for me for ages

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:20:59 PM

    I used to use rooibos tea sometimes and then I couldn't even drink normal rooibos for a while

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:24:50 PM

    as I said, it seems like a fair default position. but I always think that the reactionary racial thing is _also_ driven by neomarxists hell bent on dividing the enemy(christians).

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:25:33 PM

    ie let's break off some of the opposition into nazism (racial socialism)

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:26:30 PM

    water fast?

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:27:19 PM

    you only do water fast or not fasting, no intermittent fasting?

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:29:57 PM

    well, you would if the person was charming and intelligent and hard working and rich and courting your daughter, surely (and a Christian)

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:30:30 PM

    and legit (ie has family and they are normal)

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:30:35 PM

    not a con man

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:31:40 PM

    I think in general encouraging anything for or against in the field of marriage for people unrelated to us is impinging on free will

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:34:04 PM

    don't stop until you can levitate

  • rob #info-wars [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:35:24 PM

    Michael Jackson had the right idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwq6NrXRtns

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:36:03 PM

    don't?

  • rob #theology [server: Willem Petzer Live Chat] view

    Jul 20, 2018 02:43:38 PM

    I think I don't believe in free will is an interesting topic for theology, I think a people is cultural, not racial African Americans aren't African I don't see any soapstone or giraffe carving happening in Chicago

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