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the South African Energy Metallurgical Base is subsidiary of a Chinese conglomerate Shenzhen Hoi Mor Resources Holding Company
http://www.emsez.com/en/index.php
and then you get this shit that was drawn up to coincide with these deal in 2015:
Physical security of property
9. The Republic must accord foreign investors and their investments a level of
physical security as may be generally provided to domestic investors in accordance with
minimum standards of customary international law and subject to available resources
and capacity
https://www.thedti.gov.za/business_regulation/acts/Investment_Act_22of2015.pdf
and then the very next point in that act:
Legal protection of investment
10. Investors have the right to property in terms of section 25 of the Constitution
last point in the act:
16. This Act is called the Protection of Investment Act, 2015, and comes into
operation on a date determined by the President by proclamation in the Gazette
oh and guess what i found when i continued digging:
https://www.businessinsider.co.za/protection-of-investment-act-commencement-gazetted-foreign-mediation-bee-section-25-constitution-2018-7
GG @Robzombie, you just advanced to level 1!
bomb scares in ZAR https://drive.google.com/open?id=1n-7oGkAKmropYDFZs7q7ucNIj67FJ56J (not added petrol bombings or CIT bombings or ppl found with explosives)
4.9.2018 Kolonnade shopping centre in Montana
29.8.2018 Nelson Mandela Square and Mall of Africa
24.8.2018 Southgate Mall
3.8.2015 Bomb scare at gov building
2.8.2018 Eskomโs Eastern Region area office
1.8.2018 Masjid Taqwa mosque
25.7.2018 Freedom Park
19.7.2018 Woolworths outlet in La Lucia Ridge
14.7.2018 Kenilworth Shopping Centre in Cape Town
12.7.2018 Phoenix Police Station, Durban
12.7.2018 Woolworths outlet at Cornubia Mall
9.7.2018 Spar in Austerville in Wentworth
8.7.2018 multiple explosive devices detonated near Greyville in Durban
6.7.2018 Woolworths in Gateway shopping centre
14.5.2018 Three Southern Cape schools
19.2.2018 Explosion shuts down OR Tambo
KwaZulu-Natal is in the lead rank at 1st place with 8 events (note this figure is just ranking not the actual number of bomb reports)(edited)
Gauteng ranks 2nd with 7 events
Cape ranks 3rd with 2 events
newish muslims citizens are certainly in the lead compared to other groups
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5zHxrQo8C0qbEhwRGdhUjdGdjA Britain at War with the World (Masters of Warfare) 1600-2011 in 400 years they has been less than 60years of peace and no war..........
Tell me again why are they the Left?
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https://www.africanstand.com/news/africa/east-africa/china-to-take-over-zambias-international-airport-for-debt-repayment/amp/ Africa for Africans more like Chinese amirite
https://www.news24.com/Columnists/MelanieVerwoerd/afriforum-is-taking-us-to-the-edge-of-the-abyss-20180912 News24 can go and suck it! Funny how this is published today and they have nothing related to Afriforum joining hands with COPE to take this issue to the international community. Disgusting!
I guess if your surname is Verwoerd you gotta signal your virtue non-stop
I don't know why anyone still read news24 anyway
@spursfan82 suppose that's what happens when a woman doesn't have a reasonable man around to keep her feelings in check anymore... Feelings end up dictating reason, instead of the man reasoning with her feelings.
@Franwilder you should still read it, just don't take it seriously is all.
@Sheamus Its hard to get through these articles. Full of slander.
I know that to some, when Ernst spoke in parliament, he may have come across aggressive. But fuck, we should be aggressively against EWC! There was nothing racist about what he said.
@spursfan82 I believe that he has expressed the AfriForum position allot better on previous occasions. What is really interesting from the AfriForum presentation was not what Erns said, or how he said it. It was the way in which he was attacked without any protection in a forum supposedly designed to allow all view points to be heard without fear or favor. If nothing else, AfriForum succeeded in exposing the very real threat for any one who opposes EWC.
@ABear He was really passionate! I thought it was great. What do you think of Mosiuoa Lekota?
I think Mr. Lekota is as strong as they come. He remains true to himself and committed to the path that was chosen during 1994 and he is doing so in the face of tremendous opposition. But I fear it matters very little. Politics is a numbers game and I am not convinced that the likes of Cope and the DA will be able to pose any obstacle to the direction the ANC has chosen for this country.
well.. especially not the DA
@spursfan82 I don't really believe the DA has moved dramatically from their political trajectory. I have always believed them to be progressively more liberal every passing year. I think that many people mistakenly believe the DA being a party interested in, if not protecting, at least supporting the interest of the white population. But the DA is not a white party by any stretch of imagination. I would classify the DA as a democratic socialists party. They certainly support the notion of capitalism and a free market system to a much greater extent than does the other major "Marxist" parties, but, as the Facebook post demonstrates, market share will dictate that they must increasing support socialist policies to ensure growth and relevance.
@spursfan82 The policies of cope and the DA sounds very similar. But you are likely to find statements which appears being at odds in the same policy documents of both parties. On the one hand you will find both parties professing that they stand for "non-racial, non-sexist democratic governance". However, both parties expressly support policies aimed at addressing inequality and diversifying the economy. In other words policies aimed to prejudice and discriminate on racial and sexual grounds.
I've never really looked into cope until now.
I remember a while back the DA and cope were about to team up but it fell apart at the last minute.
Cope won 0.67% of the votes during the 2014 elections. The DA 22.23%. together they have less than 23%.
Do you think EFF will gain some more voters in 2019?
More than the 6.35% but I doubt that they will really increase significantly. The ANC will probably win some of the support back that it lost the last few rounds of elections. All and all I think the balance of power will remain spread out along the same lines as it presently is.
@spursfan82 I really dont know how Ernst could come accross as agressive lol, or even racist for that matter. He was just firm in his stance, he doesnt sway to peoples emotions, and thats what bugs them. A person who's steadfast in reason cannot have their feelings exploited, such a person cannot be swayed the other way. Let the people feel, afterall it is their own hell they create, their own misery, and their own suffering because they just refuse to acknowledge or accept the facts and truths. Anyone reasonable watching can see who the enemies of the truth is, the liars and the ignorant. So what if they are bigger in numbers, the bigger the echo chamber, the more ignorant the fools are. It's a damn shame, but the world is watching, and they are witnessing the truth none the less.
@Sheamus and @spursfan82 have you guys considered the strategy of the ANC on EWC and the various responses and how it plays into their hands. I find it a very interesting chess match and one, I am sad to say, I believe the ANC is presently winning. However, I believe their victory will be short lived and will come at a much greater cost than the ANC anticipates.
@ABear yeah! are you saying their short-lived victory come at great cost to the ANC?
Yes, but really to South Africans in general.
how so?
@ABear it's a game no doubt, and they are winning by their own crooked rules. but make no mistake, they only win because their opposition doesn't lower themselves to play that game.
No... they are winning because they are playing it smarter than most. So this take on it. They knew they had enough votes to pass EWC in Feb but chose not to do so at that time. They embarked on the farce of public participation and they did so to apiece their critics. They silenced Malema who was very vocal and increasingly calling for violence against white people until Australia came out in support of a visa for white SA farmers on humanitarian grounds. Malema has toned his warlord like tone down significantly since than even suggesting that white people is welcome here. And than something interesting happened. The ANC started to punt the idea that the constitution in its present format already allows for EWC. Even more interesting was the announcement by the ANC that they "have listened to the people" and are going to roll out EWC to test the constitution as it stands, which everyone criticized as premature. However, I think it was genius. Ever since that announcement an increasing number of academics and business leaders has come out in support of the idea that the constitution presently allows for EWC and that no change is required or that a cosmetic amendment will be sufficient. That is exactly what I believe the ANC wanted...
Most of the speakers apposing EWC during the parliamentary inquiry supported the idea that the constitution presently allows for EWC and this is why I think they did so. The constitution as it stands require that a court must decide on if compensation is required given a very specific case. The Expropriation act will be amended to bring it in line with the constitution in this regard with a provision that eviction shall be effected upon delivery of the expropriation notice. That way the land will immediately be taken. Any local or international opposition will be stifled because the government will argue, correctly, that the evicted person has the right to claim compensation through a court process which we all know will be protracted and only settled years after eviction. The international community will have no choice from a political point of view other than to allow it to play out in the courts.
So, the ANC get to take the land without having to pay a sent for it while the amounts is argue through a lengthy legal court battle. But I believe heir victory will be short lived because this is no victory for the EFF
@ABear lol so then play with the geniuses, at least i now know where you stand. Just remember, a lack of participation in a simple game of cheating, deception and exploitation does not mean retarded. Those with principles play more challenging games to better themselves. If the better persons are to abandon principles and lower their standards, they certainly can and will play it better than the rest. Bring a knife to a fist fight and they will bring a gun to a knife fight. You can always outplay your opponents, question really comes down to should you? I don't think their strategy is any good, their end game doesn't win them anything, they loose. Just watch and see.
What the hell are you on about... if you don't bother reading or your incapable interpreting English than just fuck off. I never once indicated that I support what the ANC is doing. I am simply analyzing.
@ABear you admire them, so i said, go play with them if you admire them.
You don't call someone a genius if you don't admire them. Genius is meant to be admired lol
At least i bother considering their motives and strategy. I don't blindly assume they are black and therefore stupid. That would be stupid
I don't think i am in the mood to suffer fools tonight.. cheers
@ABear i don't consider them stupid because they are black. I consider them stupid because they cheat, deceive and exploit. I never once mentioned Color,... But you brought it up
nah it's not admiration. They a smart in a devious way
@spursfan82 cunning is the word then, not genius.
or evil-genius
@spursfan82 cunning: having or showing skill in achieving one's ends by deceit or evasion.
synonyms:crafty,ย wily,ย artful,ย guileful,ย devious,ย sly,ย knowing,ย scheming,ย designing,ย tricky,ย slippery,ย slick,ย manipulative,ย Machiavellian,ย deceitful,ย deceptive,ย duplicitous,ย Janus-faced
Genius: exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.
synonyms: brilliance, great intelligence, great intellect, great ability, cleverness, brains, erudition, wisdom, sagacity, fine mind, wit, artistry, flair, creative power, precocity, precociousness
get over semantics already. If you want to challenge my analysis by all means do so. just don't tell me who i admire or support in this debate, as if it even matters, when it should be clear as day to any intelligent observer on which side of the fence i am anchored. And yes. your initial response was utterly idiotic
@spursfan82 the last remarks was directed @Sheamus not at you
@ABear choose your words more carefully then, don't be ignorant of the meaning for the words you use. If you going to use genius to describe them, then you define them by that word. You used that word, not me.
I stand by my choice of words. I concede that cunning is appropriate also... but the strategy has elements of foresight and intelligence to it. Is suspect that Hitler might have been described by some as genius from time to time although i also believe it an insult to suggest those that describe him as such as admiring of the man in any shape or form. context is everything
Lol see this is where we differ.. I'm a man of principle, you are a man of context. Good to see where i stand with you.
and i find myself suffering a fool. Good night
What a man dares to do, he should dare to confess - unless he is a coward.
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GG @Dexterous, you just advanced to level 2!
@Dexterous listening to that woman in the video with SerpentZA gave me cancer
Can't view it
Guy riding into a crowd of kids blocking traffic
I work close to a school and if I leave close to school's home-time, the streets are just crowded with kids, they take over. I often day dream of ploughing through them haha
This isn't just a western thing. Heaps of other regions around the world understand the concept of "keep off the road"
interesting...
Minister of Enviromental Affairs Edna Molewa has Died aged 62 (condolences to family).... Died from Legionnaires' disease " General cause of Legionairs, Improperly treated water.... Does anyone see the Irony in that...???
lol, irony is well noted.
Stumbled accross this, sounds like they wanting to nake the Linux community "Progressive" lol But meritocracy is what makes Linux so great, if the code was not great, it would not be worth much at all... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5VvJiNUCIA
@WuldGoGayForLauren an idea, essentially pulling the plug. If the contributors are going to be forced out, they going to take their code with them lol.
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