I'm with everyone after J.D.

I'm gonna say the nigger word

Ignorance is evil by omission

What's good kings

Holy fuck that looks like really shitty deviant art OCs

Fuck the chinky AIDS

>homofash

Cringe

Squash and gourd gang rise up

Also wasn't endeavor in RWU back in 2016

I seem to recall him from there

?

Nigger tier: Democrats are the real racists!
Spic tier: I'm not racist
Asian tier: race isnt real
White tier: I am racist and racism is a good thing

We need some of those nazi crematoria

Imagine being a coomer

Incapable of delaying gratification even for a moment

How do they ever support themselves at a job were they cant machinegun jackhammer their bloodshot semichub with their roided doomfist every 20 seconds

@Korin Dickman each one is a days worth of calories if you're not doing much of any activity

Nihilism is a paradoxical belief. It argues that nothing matters, but yet anyone who holds to that violates its principle because without exception, they themselves value that belief.
That aside, it is also used predominantly as a get-out-of-jail-free card in debates. The so-called nihilist's argument is easily refuted, so he simply declares that it doesn't matter anyways.
It has interesting implications if taken very lightly, however. It can be used to say that value only comes from within oneself, and as such can be used to create values of deeper significance to an individual than a pre existing "traditional" system would. This, however, is not something anyone ever uses it for.

It's sort of a philosophical jellyfish

I'd say it falls under the family of relativism.

The proof or value of a philosophy exists purely in its results

What

You can predict the results of a philosophical system on a society based off of how well it conforms to natural moral law

All successful human societies have lived by some form or another of NML

Easy

1. Self preservation
2. Have children
3. Educate children
4. Maintain functional society
5. Worship God

All societies throughout history have done thise things

Short answer, Aquinas

Give me a sec to switch to computer

Aquinas arrived at NML by finding what individual threads ran consistent throughout societies

You cannot have a functional society without all 5 of those things

Let's go through this one line at a time

Your society cannot continue to exist if it does not require its members to self preserve

(yeah thats what i mean, any religious practice counts)

Your society cannot continue to exist if its members do not have children, and educate them in what it means to be a part of that society

it functionally IS a tautology but that doesnt make it meaningless

It is right to stay alive

It is right to have children

It is right to educate children

consider what would happen if your society fails to do those things then

it is impossible for a society to exist outside of those

they are worshipping themselves

thats kind of the point

its a baseline for a society to work

1. War is a violation of NML, but it happens as a result of the flaws within societies

thats an idiotic statement

was is a moral evil

war*

Someone who wants to destroy society is not going to be convinced by anything

and so are you saying that they are somehow morally equal to us?

they are by definition failed

there is a *right* way to live that by sheer definition means success

consider it a compromise between absolutism and utilitarian morality

I'm not saying I know the current right way to live within how our society is currently set up, but I know there is one

how do you know there isnt?

and yes that is not my answer

I know there is a right way to live because it is the way to obey all 5 precepts of NML, along with the other 7 secondary ones within today's society

Because they are an indivisible unit of cultural knowledge. You CANNOT continue as a society without obeying them

the two are literally the same thing

Because society is inherently order

There's hardly a difference

They are prescriptive for both the macro and micro scale

Ideally, yes

Order is morally better than chaos

yeah ok i fucked that part up

society is ordered by definition

i was more saying that i dont consider our society to be moving towards greater order

I want to switch my approach here for a minute, itll still get at the topic

Everyone has a place that they belong in society

many of the past problems in society came from the fact that they tried to define places based off of birth

peoples abilities determine their place

Order is best defined by its antonym, Chaos

Chaos, in terms of humans, is anarchy

Political Satanism, if you will

to abstract one level further, perfect order is like a machine, a clock or car

every piece in its place with its specific function it was made to perform

no

well

it depends i guess

directed vs undirected chaos

pure chaos cannot exist because even chaotic things have laws like gravity etc acting upon them

so the ocean, while chaotic, is also somewhat ordered

order is law and predictability

taken from a wide enough lens, anything can have order to it

fair enough

i consider those to be more like

indivisible units of information

the indivisible unit is a really hard concept for me to explain

like

its a baseline

idk its a concept i cant really put into words very well

the apple from the garden of eden REPRESENTS that concept well

its a fundamental unit of information. much of the rest of science can be broken down, but the base of it is the behavior of the atom

sub atomic, behavior isnt understandable

oh god no

stop typing

let me go back

an atom is the best example of what i call a fundamental unit of info. that is, the smallest level of information you can break things down to, and still understand whats going on. if you break an atom, you cannot understand what is going on.

so to what Spider is saying now