It's sort of a philosophical jellyfish

that's a weird description of post-modernism

the word you're looking for is relativism, or subjectivism

If nothing matters, that in itself also doesn't matter, so just belief wtf you want. @Airman Zeno
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I'd say it falls under the family of relativism.

you haven't really defeated nihilism though

you're appealing to the consequences of nihilism if it is true, but you haven't disproved it

The proof or value of a philosophy exists purely in its results

what predictions does philosophy allow us to make?

What

well you said the value exists in the results, but what predictions does philosophy allow us to make?

or are you arguing that ethics, when applied to a society, can improve it?

because that's true of many different contradictory ethical frameworks

You can predict the results of a philosophical system on a society based off of how well it conforms to natural moral law

All successful human societies have lived by some form or another of NML

How do you determine natural moral law?

Easy

1. Self preservation
2. Have children
3. Educate children
4. Maintain functional society
5. Worship God

All societies throughout history have done thise things

how do we arrive at these 5 points?

Short answer, Aquinas

how did Thomas Aquinas

yes how does he arrive at these 5 ways?

or wait

Give me a sec to switch to computer

these aren't the five ways

Aquinas arrived at NML by finding what individual threads ran consistent throughout societies

You cannot have a functional society without all 5 of those things

?

Let's go through this one line at a time

these haven't existed in all societies

unless by worshipping God you mean worshipping literally any God or gods

Your society cannot continue to exist if it does not require its members to self preserve

wait before you start

(yeah thats what i mean, any religious practice counts)

all of these are basically tautology except the last one

societies have been functional societies isn't really much of a claim

Your society cannot continue to exist if its members do not have children, and educate them in what it means to be a part of that society

and this really then boils down to a descriptive claim, not a perscriptive one.

it functionally IS a tautology but that doesnt make it meaningless

Let me think