Message from @Airman Zeno
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Decadent societies lose social trust and degenerate into every-man-for-himself mentalities.
This actually leads to economic collapse.
They are prescriptive for both the macro and micro scale
@Airman Zeno Society is order?
Ideally, yes
ideally
so not inherently
Order is morally better than chaos
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civilization
civil
the active word
denoted order
aka, not the jungle
yeah ok i fucked that part up
society is ordered by definition
no worries I'm just trying to understand your position
I don't know that it is.
It depends what you mean by ordered
i was more saying that i dont consider our society to be moving towards greater order
like Rome
dissolution
I want to switch my approach here for a minute, itll still get at the topic
I don't know that you can really call something disordered vs ordered, beyond how most people have a propensity to organize things.
many of the past problems in society came from the fact that they tried to define places based off of birth
peoples abilities determine their place
so you think that economic systems which allow full individuality aren't 'ordered'?
I think we're getting off track here.
Could you explain to me what you mean by order? I'm confused by how you're using it here.
I don't want to interrupt your discussion, so I'll butt out
Order is best defined by its antonym, Chaos
Chaos, in terms of humans, is anarchy
this is getting more confusing
Political Satanism, if you will
I don't think anarchy and satan are going to help me out here.
to abstract one level further, perfect order is like a machine, a clock or car
What do you mean by order? On its own. My understanding of order is an arrangement, or organization according to a set of instructions.
every piece in its place with its specific function it was made to perform
what is an example of something disordered then?
if a clock is ordered becaus each piece was placed intentionally, would disorder be an arrangement with no intention behind it?
no
well
it depends i guess