What are you even doing with your life?

Inserting the current year isnt an argument

Did anyone say that it was an argument?

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I'm just trying to understand how at this point anyone could be anything but a subjectivist.

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goverment makes up roles and ethics for slaves

OBEY

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“I don’t like what gov say therefore intrinsic morality no exist” <:cringe:591181675426217995>

Well there don't seem to be many great arguments left for natural morality so.

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**-** Nihilism - What does it entail, do you agree/disagree and why?

Nihilism is a bleak outlook. Do I agree/disagree? Depends on my overall mood.

nihilism is an existential question, i agree with it because it makes the most sense scientifically

Nihilism assumes the worst. Sometimes you need optimism to get through tough times.

@Maksim Nihilism isn't just there are no morals and no reality, it also sais you have to be pessimistic about it.

nihilism is for edgy kids

Existentialism/Post Modernism also believes that everything is relative, but it sais to create your own reality.

Nihilism is a paradoxical belief. It argues that nothing matters, but yet anyone who holds to that violates its principle because without exception, they themselves value that belief.
That aside, it is also used predominantly as a get-out-of-jail-free card in debates. The so-called nihilist's argument is easily refuted, so he simply declares that it doesn't matter anyways.
It has interesting implications if taken very lightly, however. It can be used to say that value only comes from within oneself, and as such can be used to create values of deeper significance to an individual than a pre existing "traditional" system would. This, however, is not something anyone ever uses it for.

It's sort of a philosophical jellyfish

that's a weird description of post-modernism

the word you're looking for is relativism, or subjectivism

If nothing matters, that in itself also doesn't matter, so just belief wtf you want. @Airman Zeno
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I'd say it falls under the family of relativism.

you haven't really defeated nihilism though

you're appealing to the consequences of nihilism if it is true, but you haven't disproved it

The proof or value of a philosophy exists purely in its results

what predictions does philosophy allow us to make?

What

well you said the value exists in the results, but what predictions does philosophy allow us to make?

or are you arguing that ethics, when applied to a society, can improve it?

because that's true of many different contradictory ethical frameworks

You can predict the results of a philosophical system on a society based off of how well it conforms to natural moral law

All successful human societies have lived by some form or another of NML

How do you determine natural moral law?

Easy

1. Self preservation
2. Have children
3. Educate children
4. Maintain functional society
5. Worship God

All societies throughout history have done thise things

how do we arrive at these 5 points?