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I suspect it's probably true that they have access to superflagging, and even if they don't, they could probably organize mass flaggings if they wanted to
there's also the fact that, with or without that specific ability, they hold a lot of influence over advertisers
the mod put up screenshots apparently "proving" that 4chan is behind the blackmail story, most of the screenshots are just people mentioning the story or saying to upvote reddit posts about it.
They probably have superfagging access but is superflagging for mere comments or videos and entire channels?
Oh ok, so its more of a proxy type relationship. Hmm, I'm still unsure as to whether its blackmail or not. I don't think it is, Pewds is bigger than the site. There's no way that they could make him give them 50,000 to stay on YouTube or stay uncensored. He wouldn't do it. I think its more likely that he is just ignorant.
Because superflagging thousands of mere comments is like killing a fly with hydrogen bombs.
So, for any tuber who has massive following, it can be a tremendous opportunity cost to be on their bad side, as fewer advertisers will likely be comfortable using your channel
Superflagging is the shit where you could delete PDP's entire channel overnight.
They would only kill his channel if he doesn't capitulate. So far, he's been capitulating a lot, and trying to be very diplomatic.
Superflagging is the shit that gets Jihad Watch, etc. taken of the site without a single prior TOS strike.
It's a huge risk for them to take down such a large channel, because his presence could carry the popularity of another video hosting site if he left Youtube
But they can still do a lot to hurt him and disrupt his finances without taking him down
I know PDP is too big to fail. But I don't know of capitulating.
Mentioning donating to ADL (whether he did or not) is not capitalaiton.
Paying them is, mentioning he did is not.,
Obviously, PDP doesn't want to migrate to another platform, or he have already done so. So, they can just put pressure on him to not be too much of an edgiboi, and also to get essentially free money out of him.
All he did was tip off his viewers that shit is going on.
He wouldn't tolerate it though. As someone who has been on the site he would know in an instant if they tried to slowly strangle him. He'd make a vid about it and YouTube would pander to the outrage temporarily and if it didn't improve long term he'd leave the platform.
If you weigh how much he probably gets through revenue, compared to what he paid out, it's likely they can get an awful lot before he finally draws any kind of line in the sand.
He tipped off ADL extortion in a way that the MSM cannot accuse him of making up the conspiracy (because his viewers would make it on his behalf ... it's genius).
how?
MSM cannot use that as a means for call to deplatform since PDP never said ADL extorts.
And he can remain on Youtube, raking in the dough.
He couldn't make as much money on Bitchute.
hmm, i think this is getting into some 3d chess conspiracy area.
With the donation, which he made public. It's very suspicious. But at the same time, I wouldn't put it past him to just be that naive about what ADL really is, and think that it's good lamb's blood. Good optics.
@Miniature Menace What donation?
I guess time will tell
@Miniature Menace Is there proof there even was a donation?
He said he gave 50000 dollars to ADL but did he?
most likely he did
again, it's gay, but yall are throwing a fit
Well, maybe he did for plausible deniability.
unnecessarily so
You would have to verify that somewhere else. I don't have that info. I would assume that maybe he mentioned it himself, and that's what this is all about, but I may be wrong.
bruh
did
you
not
watch
the video
If there wasn't a cover-up of people mentioning ADL in the comments, one could admit the possibility of PDP being naive.
again
no evidence of cover up
No evidence of deleted comments? **WHAT IN THE EVER LIVING FUCK!?**
nada
zilch
just traditional mass hysteria
all the top comments just happen to be very very recent, nothing to see here
that isn't evidence of deletion
cuz unrelated comments would just linger
Dude, the top comments currently are:
again
you are arguing against yourself
The video is old, but the top comments are only 6 minutes old.
if they were being deleted
unrelated comments would fill it
the fact that "ADL Conspiracy!" comments are in the top
is evidence against yourself
Unless the unrelated comments don't have as many likes, I would guess.
I imagine "congrats 100 mil" would get plenty
So, a recent comment with lots of likes gets more visibility than a recent one with no or very few likes.
@Coolitic The top comments are ADL conspiracy related, but they are **all different comments than a minute ago**.
So they are not the same comments. They are being deleted.
that
isn't
evidence
of
deletion
Also, it's possible that older comments aren't showing up due to some tool or algorithm that's meant to make the curation task easier, and it's just borking.
What would be evidence?
unrelated comments would fill if that were the case
What does "unrelated comments would fill if that were the case" even mean?
comments that aren't being deleted
they would linger
have way more upvotes
and fill the top section
but they arent
He's assuming that this is precision curation, and that older comments don't draw suspicion to the ADL or raise the question of blackmail would be ignored by their deletion, and therefore tend to rise to the top of the timeline.
it's more plausible to say that YT may be tweaking the algo to circulate comments faster
not "ADL deleting!"
Which would be correct, if that's all they were doing. Assuming there were a sufficient number of older comments with any degree of likes.
But depending on the method and tools they're implementing, this might not be the case.
again, all speculation, with very weak evidence
@Coolitic It would be an odd co-incidence. ADL mentioned, PDP subreddits under verifiable purge, etc.
idk about subreddits
cuz I rarely use reddit
And it's so happened in the past that the same thing has occurred with attempts to bury or throttle certain topics or channels. They're rarely super precise. Possibly either due to the incompetency of their method, or just the attempt to seem more random to disguise intent.
refreshing sorting by top comments the top comment had 200+ likes and was 8 minutes old, its now 62 likes and 4 minutes old
Yeah, definitely something fucky is going on.
Well, if they were only censoring ADL content, the blue pillers would not be deleted, and reach the top and drown out the conspiracy. That's the theory at least.
And It does seem like everything gets purged. Either incompetence or whatever.
That said, even incomptent censor would probably understand to leave one PDP sycophant who doesn't understand ADL reference to remain on trending, to lessen the burden of deleting everything.
What's possibly occurring is that they're putting comments into a kind of limbo after they appear, so that they can be manually reviewed before being republished, but that this doesn't activate immediately so as to carry the superficial pretense that people can still freely comment.
But even without **ANY** of the comment purging, PDP's video was very, very odd. Like a cryptic war declaration.
It would make sense given the level of PDP's comment traffic.
"The A|D|L cries out in pain as he strikes you."
Nice quote.
Like, remember the Amazon Ambassadors thing? Where they very obviously seemed to have just one person using multiple accounts, and what likely happened was that the mechanism which helps to diversify their tweet sources to make it look like more people were engaged fucked up, and made them look like a freaking hive mind.
@whiic yea, I also liked that one
A lot of this is basically new tech and methods, and it's likely what's happening is that the specific people utilizing them are a bit out of their league in terms how to use them elegantly.
Just copy URLs of a bunch of comments by clicking on their timestamps
And return an hour or so later
And post the URLs
This will give an idea how many and what kind of comments are being deleted
I just noticed my comment was also deleted
If your comment is deleted, it would still be visible to you, but you'll have to post the URL in Incognito mode or log out of youtube
To check if its deleted
Here are a few comments recently posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgwARdgthi3sONPS--54AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgzvqAqWmhoWZ7VjMmp4AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgzmbCkzTtt2RN7_hbN4AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgzeMTmxr_fOAEktk2V4AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgwlYRqhgeEvuvocxtJ4AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=Ugy9B1T0bFls-uIEJBF4AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgzI_YGtI4xlZ-gBGYJ4AaABAg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYlesHOaPkY&lc=UgwF8twqy1cslfKj9fF4AaABAg
I'll come back in a few hours to check if they're still there
Go and look at the comments and keep refreshing every couple mins if you really wanna know.
Yup
yea, I'm scrolling through newest first back in time and I can't find the top comments from when I started
I've had plenty of my comments on youtube shadowbanned
Also, some comments will naturally get flagged as spam so try and keep track of the organic ones that look like they're not being spammed
I assume my comments are shadowbanned
Well, how does that quote go "the first casualty of war is truth" or something? Same principle with censorship.
especially shadow banning.
Jeremy is a typical retard soyboy on the topic.
He doesn't understand the possibility that PDP might not have actually donated anything.
He doesn't understand that PDP could have donated in silence.
He doesn't understand the 4D chess.
Not just that but the biggest retarded comment is blaming ADL for receiving PDP's money (which they might not have received, see #1), ignoring **ANCIENT ROMAN WISDOM: MONEY DOES NOT STINK**
**Pecunia non olet**
Money is money is money.
Regardless of the source.
@jacovich stabs This was apparently too spicy for youtube https://i.gyazo.com/8508aa9fbf1c396dcd361d9e520999d1.png
Ok, but given what we know you'd have to offer a convincing hypothetical that explains Pewdiepie telling everyone in a serious tone that he was going to donate 50k to the ADL.
Otherwise I'm going to go with the imminently more likely scenario.
@whiic I'm an idiot, who's Jeremy?
Even **IF** PDP donated, it's not hypocrisy for ADL to accept it. And there's no proof PDP donated anything. Just videoedited text and PDP's words.
@killerqwerty The Quartering / Mid Westly. The annoying soyboy who grows beard, bobs his head, stutters, has dyslexia and problem speaking and probably also reflux disease (inflammated oesophagus).
Reflux is just my guess but he often stops mid sentence as if to swallow his own vomit.
@Comando It was deleted or you just suspect that others cannot see it because of lack of likes/ comments? It may have been falsely flagged as spam since it contains the word "parliament" a lot and is a fairly big comment.
@whiic Do you think that Pewds didn't donate 50k to the ADL like he said he was going to? If so, why do you think that?
Well, would he donate to WSJ or WaPo?
ADL is just as guilty of destroying PDP's career at Disney as those others.
I checked in incognito mode using the link, and it did not appear
could you link me it so I can test it?
Yeah give me a second
Ok so if he didn't do it why would he claim that he did?
If he knows that the ADL doesn't like him and has caused him issues before, why tell his fans that he is donating to them?
So if I open that link while logged in it will highlight the comment. In incognito, nothing
@Comando can't see it
Hmmm.... maybe cuck-Jeremy does have a point after all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTruVZV5efo
@killerqwerty I know. Click on the time the comment was posted, whilst incognito, on any visable comment and it will be the "highlighted comment" appearing first
He's pointing out the connection between Honey shilling and ADL donation, that ADL donation must be a deal he made with Honey, instead of doing it for his own motivation.
yep I don't get the comment either. So we've narrowed it down to either false flagging as spam or youtube or the channel removing it because they don't agree with it.
PDP is quite a shill, even though he occasionally stands up to smaller creators (and is quite alone with that).
I think its just too many political terms in a single body of text. Youtube thought: too complicated, delete
PDP is not just millionaire but he wants more and more. He shills out for D-live (instead of D-tube) with it's Ponzi scheme funding mode, etc.
He makes Mundame Matt and shilling for Candid seem insignificant.
Would Honey have demanded that PDP announces a donation to ADL as a condition to receiving sponsorship?
Oh yeah, i totally forgot that the ADL labelled Pepe a hate symbol LUL
Honey could have paid the money on PDP's behalf, but they might have wanted for PDP to announce a donation to ADL so that ADL doesn't attack Honey for connection to "white supremacy".
At this point, I'm surprised there isn't a violent rebellion against ADL in USA. Maybe it's just because the left is on their side, and the right are pro-Zion, hence they have the proper bi-partisan shield against widespread protesting.
@whiic Honey getting him to donate to cover their ass actually makes a lot of sense
Yeah, maybe the focus from now onwards should be to investigate SJW ties to company named Honey.
Most sponsors wouldn't require PDP to donate money to ADL after all.
This is rather ... special.
If honey wanted to donate to the ADL why wouldn't they just y'know, donate themselves?
who fucking knows
They didn't want to donate to the ADL. They don't want to give money, they want to **EARN** money.
And to earn money, they need promotion. And for promotion, they need to sponsor "influencers".
But if that influencer is "white supremacist" they need to purchase "absolution" from that charge by paying penance for their sins.
Hence, maybe Honey paid PDP to promote their vouchers and paid ADL (via PDP or directly) to absolve PDP of his sins.
oh, ok i just got to that part in jeremy's vid. That could actually be plausible.
That said, I still fucking hate Jeremy **and I wish him dead**.
lol bit extreme
I cannot stand his mannerisms, stutters, swallowing words, being slow to speak and self-censoring.
I want him dead.
cringe
He's more annoying than Tim Pool. And Tim is horrible.
I honestly just don't watch him.
I don't want to see his Towncrier announcements.
But since Town Crier is a bot, I cannot even block his announcements.
I am not familiar with his content but to say "I want him dead" because you don't like his mannerisms is just hilarious to me.
I can't imagine caring that much.
I don't want to kill him (or I won't admit to it) and nor do I call for you to do it on my behalf. There's nothing in TOS to hope he would die accidentally, AFAIK.
hahahhaa
I hope Jeremy finds himself in love with Ebola-chan.
ok
That's the extent of how much I hate his mannerisms.
woah, you're so cool
I am not. I'm just bitter.
Being edgy alone does not make one cool. That makes you lead character of Arifureta.
>digibro
🗑
The only good thing about DigiBro is him taking a shit on SAO.
That said, while he takes a shit on SAO, he's a huge fan other equally shitty series: Log Horizon.
Fucking isekai shit. The least imaginative nonsense out there.
Fucking hell, Whiic
```That said, I still fucking hate Jeremy and I wish him dead.```
that's fucking edgy
edgy enough to cut him on the words alone
🔪 🗡 🍴
LMAO
D-d-d-do I an-n-n-annoy you wi-wi-with my st-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-uttt-t-tering?
D-d-oes it mmm-mm-m-mmm-.-mmmake you want me de-de-de-dead?
Hey @whiic if I [censored] and I keep [censored] will you want me [censored] ?
If....... I.............. talk........................ very.............................slooow...............like...........this.........does.........that...........make you................very.............annoyed............and.........wish........................death......................................on...................me?
I don't think it's worth it, I just ignore High On Beard Oil Hambly entirely. He's just not worth the time.
I desire to slap Jeremy around with a large trout for his clickbait titles.
But that's aboot it
Out of curiousity, has anyone here ever seen a single pro no deal, or even pro brexit, article from the BBC? Thinking back I cannot think of a single time they entertained the other side
Never
They report reality and fact, Brexit will be damaging to us. Why would they lie about that? @Jackula
What ‘pro Brexit’ articles do you want them to release?
Don’t forget the BBC do not write opinion pieces, they only post fact.
Which they have been doing.
open wide for the BBC
"Why don't you just pay the terrorists?" -Vee
Maybe Mitch said that same retarded shit as well, suggesting vegans could buy the animals to save them.
...not understanding that buying the animals gives the farmers money to buy two new ones to torture.
It is same as funding terrorists. When you pay random to get a person free, the use it to kidnap ten more and demand money for them as well. Happens all the time.
And I ain't unironically calling farmers terrorists, but from vegan point of view, they are. So why pay the terrorist? Why would **a vegan** purchase the animal to be free'd?
The fact that Hindus may purchase cows and set up sanctuaries for them is only an example of lack of principle Hindus have. And it's not limited to cow sanctuaries, they buy leather products and meat from Muslims, etc. they just refuse to kill animals themselves. It's the ultimate NIMBY hypocrisy. They refuse to kill an animal, they pay other people to do it for them, pretending they weren't the financial motivation behind the murder of the cow.
Vegans more principled than Hindus.
@whiic i like how you turned commentary on paying terrorists into anti-hindu nonsense
@whiic are you that faggot from the city slickers movie who took the cow home as his wife in the end?
Well, Hindus, these cow-protecting good people, they pay other people to kill the animals the "protect" because they don't want to get punished for killing the holy holy animal. They pay others to kill, then then eat and wear their skin on their shoes. To me, that's a fucking hypocrisy.
It's like saying USA did nothing wrong, they paid Private Military Companies to fight in Middle-East.
Can I buy a terrorist to torture?
> ``[11:04] Weez: Don’t forget the BBC do not write opinion pieces, they only post fact.``
<:GWchadMEGATHINK:366999806343774218> boi
fucking volcano take
right after dank's video on their obvious-as-fuck hit-docu on him, too
If that was a hit piece they succeeded
In hitting their own reputation
<:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>
the bbc have no reputation here to begin with
but it's plainly obvious as to why they did it
I mean
They found the absolute worst comedian to represent their side of the argument then
How stupid must they be if they don't get that right
extremely. again, this is known
I know it's usually best to assume incompetence over malice, but that's so many levels of fail
like the only thing these people are actually competent at are being the mafia
that's it
TR also exposed them good a while back
I guess it's a classic example of don't stop your enemy from making a mistake
BBC is 140 % objective what are you talking about <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>
I mean, the BBC is fine <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>
OFC when they start talking about things you don't like, then BBC MAN BAD!
How is any of this incorrect?
Or opinion pieces?
It's objective fact.
Even this, isn't written in a negative way
"No-deal Brexit: 10 ways it **could** affect you"
"The contents of your shopping basket **may** change"
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