(DM) Thomas & Alan MI
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We ended up finding some of that star of david graffiti and covered it up 👌
Believe so, you'll see when Benjamin sends it.
We scouted this out tonight and took some pictures of specific parts of the wall that would be good to stencil over: https://mega.nz/folder/JiZSgTaZ#zhY33HgHnCdruMmPzxl8aQ
I'll send a report of all our activities later.
so how do we get spray paint like in this video: https://t.me/sons_of_columbia/1558
it comes out as a cone which is way better for covering stuff up.
It's in the stencil guide. Turbo cans.
Thanks, idk how i missed it.
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Hey so @Arthur MI is going to have a PI following him for the near future because he is going on disability and his work status pertains to his lawsuit. Since he is going to have a PI watching him pretty much all the time I don't think its safe for him to engage in activism, especially not with others. How should that effect his status as a member? Should he leave and rejoin once he no longer has someone watching him, or should he just stay a member even though he can't participate in almost anything?
How long is this one going to be following Arthur? I think him leaving the org would be negatively impactful on his recovery.
I will message Uly.
nvm he told me that is the new password
Can't remember if I've asked this, can I get a ballpark on how many hours east from Detroit we'll be traveling for the demo? Its for travel planning, and I won't share it with others.
Have you considered having a team that helps with speech writing?
Not really something I need that much help with.
Fair enough, every speech ive seen you perform has been excellent, but it may be a good idea if speeches lengthen.
btw, whenever you have a free minute I'd like to talk to you about some of the unprofessional things which occurred at the NJP event which @Benjamin MI recently told me about.
This is very low urgency fyi.
Sure, I can be on now.
okay I'll hop on
what is your position on placing materials such as these, whether alongside or separate from our promat?
The organization isn't really the best suited activist body to make it's central message about victims of violent crimes. Too much of our messaging which tells people vital things about us and the world we're trying to build would be lost.
We would unfortunately have to either cherrypick our tragedies or jump quickly from one to another, ending up with a laundry list of martyrs and no one viewing the message would know anything about our positive goals once the memorializing is done. Finally, as much as I understand the subject, I can't be certain that these families or injured individuals would understand and accept our use of their images. I know how difficult it can be to deal with matters like this without publicity.
Everything we do is already for the sake of those who have been victims, or those who have been disenfranchised, denied, and forgotten. The whole nation is in the context of our message.
I get that i dont think we should design new pf stickers about this incident or anything, but if guys placed our promat on the same lightpole as a poster about this specific incident then i dont see how it detracts from our materials or makes our orginization about memorializing rather than eternal principles. It may be good for recruitment if some of our promat posts are showing our stickers next to posters of that nature. Give me your thoughts on all of that, Im asking more because of the likely chance that my guys will want to place posters like that less so for myself.
It could be done, but I would not make it any large focus. The response I gave you was copied and pasted from another asking similar question.
Understood, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't disallowed.
We are having our cluster meeting rn if you're wanting to make any announcements or anything of that nature.
Hope I was of some help.
I think so :thumbup:
11/24/21 Michigan Cluster Meeting Report:
1. @Alan MI
2. @Eric MI (cluster meeting note taker)
3. @Michael MI
4. @Benjamin MI
5. @Johnny MI
6. @Sam MI
7. @Francis MI
8. @Nathan MI
1. @Arthur MI (Was unable to attend because hes in the process of moving)
2. @Ulysses MI (work conflict)
@Alan MI : Planning Thanksgiving event. Bringing Mashed potatoes and gravy. Stickered 5 cities.
Maintained 1700 calorie ceiling and workout program.
@Eric MI : Very sick, so he will not be attending the Thanksgiving event. Will be well by the demo.
Can meet the network fitness standards (when not sick).
@Michael MI : Will be receiving his new promat at the Thanksgiving event. Bringing a peanut butter red velvet cake.
Has maintained the workout regiment that @Johnny MI helped him design. Has been concentrating on his new job.
Failed the 9 minute mile standard, failed the plank standard, completed the pullup standard, and completed the push up standard.
@Benjamin MI : Serving as quartermaster for the Thanksgiving event. Preparing the turkey.
Attended the NJP event. Submitted a report to @Thomas
Failed the plank standard, but completed the other three standards.
@Johnny MI : Stickered 4 cities.
Attended the NJP event.
Has created an accountability agreement with @Michael MI where as long as @Michael MI follows his workout regiment @Johnny MI will make sure he stickers at least once a week. This arrangement is already showing improvement for both of them.
completed all network fitness standards.
@Sam MI : Bringing a ham to the Thanksgiving event.
Working on building muscle since he has gotten down to a healthy body fat %.
completed all network fitness standards.
@Francis MI : Bringing punch to the Thanksgiving event.
Looking for a new job.
Failed the plank standard but completed all others.
@Arthur MI : Is healing from his injuries. Will likely get a large sum of money from the accident which will allow him to get back on his feet. WIl likely be staying with his father temporarily. He may move to Alabama in the future to live with his brother who intends to join PF after he leaves the military.
@Ulysses MI : Working on a banner and cutting out copies of the banner stencils. Cannot attend the Thanksgiving event due to a family matter. Stickered 3 cities.
Mainly focused on his career and determining family plans (recently married).
Failed the plank standard but completed all others.
The meeting primarily consisted of discussing travel plans for both the Thanksgiving event and the upcoming demo. Nothing of particular note happened during this meeting to warrant more verbose articulation.
November 27th Michigan Thanksgiving Event (Frontsgiving).
Lead Organizer - @Alan MI
Quartermaster - @Benjamin MI
Members present: @Alan MI @Benjamin MI @Johnny MI @Francis MI @Michael MI @Sam MI
Non-members present: Vernon (leader of non activist social group in MI) and an Indiana based AFA Folkbuilder.
Purpose: To celebrate an American holiday as brothers and to network and develop closer relations with the AFA.
3pm: Arrival time.
3pm-6pm: Food preparation and chit chat.
6pm- 7pm: Thanksgiving meal.
7pm- 7:30pm: Dessert.
7:30pm-1am: free time.
1am: Departure or lights out.
11am: Hard departure time.
Long form: The event was a success. There were zero logistical issues other than heavy snowfall leading to slight travel delays. There was never a dull moment as conversations ranged from silly to deep and philosophical. The AFA folkbuilder said that he had already tacitly recommended pf to young men he met within the AFA but that he would much more emphatically push them towards joining our brotherhood now knowing how mature and well organized we are. He specifically knew of at least 3 men he would recommend to join the next time he sees them including one who has already been considering applying for a few weeks now. He also plans to invite Michigan pf members to AFA events henceforth. The two non-affiliates are both family men in their mid thirties with children. They were able to provide a lot of wisdom and mature advice to the younger pf guys that was extremely beneficial. While the AFA is a nonpolitical organization, it has been suggested to me by multiple of their members that their leadership is very aware of PF and behind close doors strongly supports it and pushes younger guys with an interest in politics or activism towards it. I believe that pursuing this relationship further will be very beneficial organizationally.
What is Arthur's moving situation like? Gotta make sure he gets all the advice he can so that he's not getting into an unstable situation. We can lose guys like that.
What NJP event did Benjamin attend? The one in Wisconsin? I was at that one.
Have you gotten banner making stuff in both intra-NW clusters yet?
Make sure guys are getting on plans to meet all the standards. Depending on what they failed.
How do we know this "Folkbuilder", and what does he do? I'm familiar with the AFA, if only at a surface level. Jesse AR is in it.
I'm confused about what you mean by "both intra-NW clusters" we only organize as one cluster. We got some banner sized stencils from one of the ex pf guys that he'd had shipped by you a long time ago. We also have some on the way from @Benjamin WI , so we'll be moving banner production to southern Michigan after the demo.
Yes, everyone is working on it. The one I'm most concerned about fitness wise is @Michael MI and if I don't see improvement in the near future I'm gonna put him in lifestyle recovery. I'm giving him a chance to prove he can't work on it on his own first. Everyone else is committing to physical training they've run by @Sam MI or @Johnny MI because they're both into fitness.
I know this folkbuilder through the AFA itself. He is the leader of the indiana kindred (their analogous network), and he has met Vernon several times irl. His main job is being the spiritual leader of the Indiana kindred through leadership, religious mentorship, and organizing events.
@Sam MN and @Ray MN are also members.
I am referring to the people way up in Traverse vs. the people in the Detroit area. With only one of the two areas making banners, it was a task, right?
Tell me more about how the AFA works. Do they have members, meetings, events, dues? What does their organizing and ritual practice entail?
Understood, yes it was. Now that we have gotten the materials in southern Michigan it'll be much easier to reach our banner drop goals.
The AFA is sort of the opposite of PF (not in terms of belief but in terms of function). It is non political and only religious, but it is exclusive to those of european descent who are generally dissident right. Outside of that they avoid politics and heavily limit how WN 1.0 their members can act. For example, their events disallow things like swazi flags because they're meant to be family oriented religious events. Much of their membership is the "older" crowd like 30+, but they have a decent number of younger people. Almost all of the leadership is 35+. Their dues are 10$ a month. They put that money towards organizing events but also building their churches, called "Hofs" which are built on privately owned property so that events can be held their safely. Kindreds are expected to hold "moots" which are basically just irl meetups on at least a once per month basis, and they usually attend other things as groups like cultural festivals. They have a lot of family oriented charitable activities knitting blankets for children, pagan oriented daycare for children, and other similar initiatives. They have have bigger regional events every few months, and they have nationwide events every 6 months on average it seems.
If you would like to communicate with one of their leadership I'm sure they'd be more than willing to be in contact with you. All of their leadership attach their names and faces to their positions.
didn't wanna spam lifestyle recovery with 6 pictures, but I wanted to give you as much info as possible. The last three are in the uniform jacket.
If you would like to ask more questions on mumble I'll be available for another 30 minutes or so.
Just wanting to see where everyone is at in regards to the lifestyle project. Looking at the highest successes.
I think there are 2 or 3 guys who've lost 40-60 pounds in the last year, so I would wager that they're the best examples of weight-loss within pf in the last 6 months or so. I believe that information is on @Sam MI 's spreadsheet.
Please send me the full chant you were having guys do while marching in the hiking video.
Hail Our Nation,
Hail Our Stand,
We'll Fight And Bleed,
In Freedom's Cause,
Of The Cost.
Let Us Be,
As A Band,
Of Brothers Joined,
Peace in Vict'ry,
We Shall Find.
You can't give this cadence until you lose 20 more lbs though, them's the rules.
Realistically I wouldn't be giving it until the spring for our next hike, and I'll have lost more than 20 by then :thumbup:
I don't make the rules around here, I just say what's what.
He makes the rules.
Joking aside, I appreciate the proverbial "carrot" to keep me motivated.
Carrots are good. Low in calories and very filling.
"filling" foods like that never worked for me when it came to dieting. I need the satiation of high protein high fat meals to not go nuts. More power to people who can use that dieting tactic though.
How have things been in WI?
So you implied that you have done activism in Detroit before, when was that?
Not sure, but I have not.
Second pic is of you, just my zoom isn't high enough.
Well, I know you're a busy fella traveling all over the nation, but I'd love to do activism with you in Michigan at some point in 2022. I also want you to attend at least one of our two planned hikes as well.
Our spring one will be in the upper peninsula, and we are going to do the same hike as the one in October again as well. Next year we will complete the entire thing, and we'll do it a bit sooner in the year when its not as cold.
Looks like a new quasi paleoconservative group has popped up in Michigan.
Won't be hard.
Btw I have not been given the meetup location. I'm not sure if that is released yet, but if it is I need it.
Message @Vincent TX , and tell EVERYONE you know who is a driver or is leading travel parties to message him for the address as well.
If money is being collected for those who suffered great financial loss as a result of this event please give me whatever cashapp is being used for that purpose. Thank you.
Will have updates.
If people have podcasts, or other things that are interested in interviews with me, they should fill out a Contact Request to the site and complete it with the necessary info.
I'll notify them immediately.
If you can set @Ulysses MI temp password to passwordreset again he was a dumbass and never got around to actually making the new password.
Next time he has to go through vetting again.
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