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Molyneaux said that his trip to mostly-white Poland recently influenced him. He saw how low the crime was and how much peace and social cohesion there is there.

I saw the announcement that there's new member orientation tonight. how to attend? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

did something happen in the pledge hall voice chat? can't hear anything suddenly

Could there be a recommended reading/watching list for members?

what do you recommend for members to do regarding social media (reddit, facebook, etc.)

I'd also be interested in a document on why we have the moral high ground. It's easy to feel or act guilty, as Millennial Woes talked about in that video Danimal876 posted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFInvwZMV-M).

Even if you're looking at what's best for Mexicans or refugees, for example, American nationalism is better in many ways (can help more refugees closer to home with the same amount of money, mass migration is part of a scheme of low wages for Mexicans, as Fernando Cortes talked about at Amren (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQaIEnQz6RY).

I feel like Jordan Peterson has changed since 2015/2016. He seems preoccupied with not being associated with people like ourselves, not doing anything that could cause him to lose his income from speaking. Isn't he also following a strange limited semi-carnivore diet? he hasn't looked healthy to me lately

well, book forward to Jordanetics, actually

Re: Patrick's new year's suggestions ... I am getting married in a few months ๐Ÿ˜ƒ the closer the date gets, the more I realize I'm kind of intimidated about whether I can do a good job at it... Wondered if any married people have advice.

I'm a girl

thanks for the reassurance!

tax planning would be awesome

2019-01-02 00:30:44 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

thought this was a nice quote from a review of Jim Goad's Whiteness: The Original Sin: "As I'ย€ย™ve said many times but will keep saying until it seeps into everyoneโ€™s impossibly thick skulls, the most powerful political weapon is guilt. It can disable entire populations without a single shot being fired. Apparently those who are constantly injecting the collective white unconscious with guilt serum are deathly afraid of what white people could accomplish if they were to toss their โ€œย€ยœinvisible knapsacksโ€ย€ย of imaginary guilt into the nearest river." https://www.takimag.com/article/whiteness_the_original_sin_jim_goad/2/

https://quillette.com/2019/01/01/anxiety-about-immigration-is-a-global-issue/

"The idea that so-called โ€œnativismโ€ or hostility towards immigration is confined to white Westerners is a fallacy; it is a global phenomenon that is often stronger in non-Western countries.... The moral outrage of many white progressives and most intellectuals of color in the West on this subject is solely reserved for white societies; if black or brown people share exactly the same sentiments that white people are being lambasted for, it will either be greeted with silence or with all sorts of justificatory rationalizations."

2019-01-02 19:30:30 UTC [Literature Club #tir]  

Almost finished with The Strange Death of Europe audiobook. It was great. starting on Ship of Fools.

can't wait for JT!

if you want to research areas, there is a map of the census including race over the area of the US: https://demographics.coopercenter.org/racial-dot-map

it's interesting seeing how much people segregate naturally

anyone in New Mexico or did I found/refound the NM chapter

and freedom of association? like in Orania ... ๐Ÿ˜›

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abAIl7X7480 clip on Orania from Lauren Southern's documentary

Hi, new member here, interested in getting involved in cyberstrike ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

I keep hearing things in The Strange Death of Europe that shock me about demographic projections for a possible Muslim majority in Europe,... possibly not so far-fetched

http://punchingbagpost.com/2018/10/27/a-muslim-majority-europes-demographic-destiny/

"More openly conservative demographic statisticians have released empirical projections indicating that accounting for immigration and the birthrate disparity Europe will become majority Muslim as soon as two generations from now."

I just had a dream this past night that I was with some other people and we were amid some kind of harmful sleeping gas and lying down to sleep, but then at one point I said, this isn't right, and stood up and called 911 in the dream and started taking steps to survive. it was a weird dream but it made me realize I have a survival urge.

@Jonaltright I agree the situation is bleak, but it was also bleak at many points throughout European history. Somehow we found a way to not get annihilated by Muslims at many points in history, not all starve, not all die from and rebuild after the Black Plague, etc.

Can anyone give advice on cleaning refrigerator condenser coils?

I'm a stay-at-home woman... and don't even have kids ๐Ÿ˜›

I'm so impressed with Molyneaux lately!

can you make a twitter account on desktop with just an email address and no phone number?

i heard this song on a british tv show and haven't been able to get it out of my head. English madrigal song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE_7aqtgquo

been listening to English madrigal songs lately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NPFUz-kIu4

2019-01-05 05:24:01 UTC [Literature Club #tir]  

Good paragraph from Why We Fight

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/393247992939020288/530979764639367168/Screen_Shot_2019-01-04_at_10.23.25_PM.png

thanks. i think it went well. I got a fridge coil brush and unplugged the fridge was gentle and did get a lot of dog hair out of there from the previous homeowner's dog.

@Isabella Locke-MT I feel you! the urge to clean is real!

@Sam Anderson that's cool about Shaprio and Rogan talking about IQ differences. do you know roughly where in the video they talk about it?

white people and their *shuffles deck* white parenting

wow, the article calls for white parents not to do their best for their children

""Everyone is trying to do the best for their kid," she says. "But I actually think that there are times when maybe the best interest of your own kid isn't actually the best choice. Ultimately, being a good citizen sometimes conflicts with being good parents.... Maybe in our case it should have meant choosing a public school rather than a private one."

@OttoVonBismarck haha Tariq says that Asians are successful because white supremacists allowed them to be??

just read that you're supposed to clean the condenser coils every six months to keep the fridge working well

2019-01-07 00:10:55 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

@Mick nice quote! what's the book?

2019-01-07 00:22:14 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

i agree, if you accept "racist" as a thing you can be you've lost the discussion already

2019-01-07 00:51:21 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/393247525198364676/531635925092925480/Screen_Shot_2019-01-06_at_5.51.04_PM.png

2019-01-07 00:52:05 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

i can't figure out how to talk on the voice thing

2019-01-07 00:52:22 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

My ex's mom worked at an all black charter school that seemed really great for kids

2019-01-07 00:52:34 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

i click unmute and something werid happens, trying to figure it out

2019-01-07 00:53:02 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

nvm

2019-01-07 00:57:53 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

it's tough, some SJWs make a point to have friends of all races

2019-01-07 01:02:16 UTC [Literature Club #general]  
2019-01-07 01:02:41 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

you can see how much people self-segregate in where they live

2019-01-07 01:03:59 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/393247525198364676/531639103880560641/Screen_Shot_2019-01-06_at_6.03.46_PM.png

2019-01-07 01:04:40 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

or "oreo"

2019-01-07 01:09:43 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

Stefan talked about how visiting mostly-white Poland a few months ago affected him a lot, that's what inspired his rush of white identity posting on Twitter

2019-01-07 01:21:18 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

alternative hypothesis has good videos on fst

2019-01-07 01:43:04 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

that book sounds great, with the quote about being a good parent, spouse, friend, neighbor etc

why we fight is really intense! reading that now

is that a cat?

that's a good point. i try to disrupt the mainstream narrative in gentle ways (with people who aren't open)

2019-01-07 02:50:25 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

@Jacob could be!

I've found some of my fourth cousins on 23andme and they look like people I'd be friends with if I met them.

@Jawa my favorite birds are magpies... really pretty and intelligent "widely considered one of the most intelligent animals in the world and one of only a few non-mammal species able to recognize itself in a mirror test."

2019-01-07 04:10:42 UTC [Literature Club #evolution]  

@Myndrian great article

good interview. learned some new things even though I've been listening to Jared for years. the interviewer, Tommy Sotomayor,
is interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Fq272nof4

2019-01-07 20:03:12 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

started listening to A Troublesome Inheritance audiobook. I've known this stuff for a while, but hearing them talk about evolution at the forefront really makes it hit home. Groups really have diverged quite a bit. Cool to realize much of the evolution has been recent.

Has anyone done a survey of members to find out how they got redpilled or decided to join?

I'm guessing Jared Taylor's youtube videos might have been a major factor for many of us?

maybe run a poll in discord or something?

2019-01-07 22:56:59 UTC [Literature Club #general]  

https://www.pnas.org/content/108/4/1262 "males self-administered oxytocin or placebo and privately performed computer-guided tasks to gauge different manifestations of ethnocentric in-group favoritism as well as out-group derogation"

I could think about it. It would be good to ask about factors that we could actually use or implement for recruitment (e.g., certain books or people, Jared taylor's videos) ... and of course have the survey edited by admin so that it's only things that would go with our platform/image.

There are great survey tools like suveymonkey, but unfortunately they grab IP address and a lot of metadata (location, etc.), so it might be best to stick to something on discord.

If we were to do a poll on how people decided to join IE, it seems discord has a poll bot, or we could just use reactions as a poll (like click on the one for the given option)

but it would be hard to have many options, poll bot only allows 6 in a straw poll, and too many would get unwieldy

so it might be good to narrow down to whatever areas we'd consider between focusing on the most, and only ask about those

I wonder why people aren't getting on his case more. Maybe his "not an argument" thing and the way he sort of publicly makes fun of people who say ridiculous things to him (he retweets a lot of ridiculous attacks) helps?

@Nico The Great - CA thanks will try that

woah, step away from discord for a few minutes and we're on beards now?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/buchanan/the-coming-balkanization-of-the-democratic-party/?mc_cid=7d68d78e6c&mc_eid=7edc4e414e

"While racial and ethnic voting is not new, it appears much more intense."
โ€œThis thing is going to get so tribal.โ€"
"The Republican Party, even with the never-Trumpers gone, still seems more united than a Democratic Party where the differences are not only ideological but also racial, religious and tribal."

wow, he's talking about the people killed by illegal immigrants

wow "this is a choice between right and wrong"

@Zilna Jestov i like your clock idea. does anyone have good demographic projections for 2100-ish?

@Zilna Jestov here is census bureau on 2060. interesting that non-hispanic whites are expected to be only 33% of those under 18 in 2060. so that could give some clue as to 2100-ish. https://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/population/cb12-243.html

seems like at this rate, there would be more Hispanics than non-Hispanic whites in the US, in the under 18 age group, by 2060-ish "Hispanics are projected to make up 38.0 percent of this [under-18] group in 2060, up from 23.9 percent in 2012." (and whites would be 33% of people under 18 in 2060)

@Zilna Jestov whites % < Hispanics % will be later on, like 2080ish.... white % still > Hispanic % in 2045 even though white % < 50% in 2045

aww it looks like it was cool!

Maybe if you made a countdown to the glorious minority majority, they'd allow it ๐Ÿ˜‰

@R O M A N V S that thread was good

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/conservative-de-platforming-is-an-attack-on-private-property/?mc_cid=2ff8b5d785&mc_eid=7edc4e414e "The truth may be that there is a conservative alternative to the Internet and itโ€™s called โ€œland.โ€ That isnโ€™t necessarily a happy conclusion."

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