I thought maybe we should do a dramatic countdown clock activity. It might make people think.

@ExternalPepsi nothing important happened, more of the "pls maam pls gibs wall" from daddyT

The speech wasn't a total black pill, but it wasn't impressive by any means. As long as he doesn't cave, I suppose it's a win.

So it's not worth watching then?

Meh. More of the same. He did use some very good normie-tier rhetoric, though.

It's only ten minutes, regardless.

It's short, yeah.

I'm *hoping* it's a prelude to serious action on the wall.

We'll see.

I think it was old hat to us, but what he achieved was getting it in front of a wider audience

Yeah, it was the right move. I seriously wonder if his aides listen to FTN.

How was the speech on the wall?

Scroll up a bit

I don't mean that rudely, but you can find some good discussion on the subject just above

In summary it was decent but alone lacking

We need more, obviously.

If the speech was a prelude to something greater, then good. If it wasn't, then...

then it was just talk

I was honestly half expectinghim to give up on the wall in this talk and try to pass it as him being nice

So tbh while I think it was stupid. Could have been worse. However, that doesn't excuse it.

@Zilna Jestov i like your clock idea. does anyone have good demographic projections for 2100-ish?

I dunno I think throwing statistics at people isn't a good way to bring them over to our side, I think Trump should have used arguments that were a bit stronger and more developed rather than throwing out stats. On the other hand I thought his use of the anecdotes about illegals murdering people was very well done because it's more relatable to the average voter than cold statistics.

we're all hitting on the same thing: the talk was _weak_

It was too short, and not pointed enough.

and it couldn't afford to be weak

Well, a strong talk wouldn't change much. We need action.

But yes, I was expecting it to be longer.

But future actions have the potential to validate it.

I want my 8 minutes of life back. I was promised something good!

@apronandlace I was thinking about the 2045 projection. I'm glad you agree.

Schumer looks scary.

@Zilna Jestov

brown is a bigger demo threat than blacks, definitely true. good to see it so clearly laid out.

Nosferatu was an archetype for the kind of people that Schumer is.

Good silent film.

Asians are more dangerous to the economy

@apronandlace Nothing too into the weeds with stats though, just a clear common projection.

They steal our technology that took centuries to develop

i thought they bought it from israel mainly

yeah tbh my job is more under threat from h1bs than border crossers, the wall I think is just a fundamental symbol

Is there an IE plan to save the race if all political efforts fail